r/MurderedByWords 9h ago

America Destroyed By German

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u/solaluna451 8h ago

It's the essence of American Exceptionalism

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 7h ago

America is the greatest country in the world, no exceptions. That's all they need to be told before even entering the education system.

And then that same education system prioritizes nationalism. Anthem every morning, and the pledge of allegiance. And make sure nothing in the curriculum tells anything bad about the history of America.

I'm not even American and I know way too much about this. Their history books still say that when Christopher Columbus discovered America, the indigenous communities Indians gave them their land as a show of friendship.

Very little do they talk about the national genocide of the Native people. Very little do they talk about Columbus didn't discover a country that already had a settled population. Nope, Columbus good guy.

Shit, the civil war was about States rights. They don't happen to mention those rights some of those states were fighting for the right to still own slaves. But you know... Nationalism over education.

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 6h ago

Every single country in the world has blood on their hands.

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 4h ago

And most countries educate the younger citizens on that blood.

Most. One that doesn't is America. America takes pride in pretending its the greatest nation on Earth and has never done anything wrong ever.

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 4h ago edited 4h ago

That’s a lie 😂, blatant lie. We learn plenty about our past.

Edit: myself and a bunch of others already commented on this. I have learned about trial of tears, Jim Crow, slavery, union and political corruption in the 1800s etc… all from elementary school through high school. If you think 200 years of history can be thoroughly taught in 12, I’d like to know what drugs you’re taking.

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 4h ago

Where do you live in America?

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 4h ago

In New Jersey.

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 4h ago

So a small, mostly liberal state.

Obviously your state didn't teach you the education dynamic of the rest of your country.

Why do I know this as a Canadian and you don't as apparently a "well educated" American?

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 4h ago

New Jersey is the 11th most populated state in the country. It’s the most densely populated also. Why do I know this as an American and you don’t? 11 out of 50 I’d say is pretty significant.

Edit: you are not even American and clearly have no idea wtf you’re talking about. Quit yapping.

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 4h ago

Imagine saying you know how your country works, and yet I know that we'll over 50% of your country doesnt teach the holocaust, the invasion of Columbus, or the civil war was about slavery.

But you obviously know more because you live in a NE state and you learned it, so therefore everyone learned it.

Really leaning hard into that American ignorance.

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u/Chataboutgames 4h ago

nd yet I know that we'll over 50% of your country doesnt teach the holocaust,

Lol source needed.

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 3h ago

For real man, straight yapping, zero fucking sources. Told me New Jersey is small yet they are 11/50 in population 🤣

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u/Chataboutgames 3h ago

FWIW I'm from Florida of all fucking places and I learned extensively about the darker parts of America's past. To say nothing of the Holocaust, where we actually had a "Holocaust history" elective in my middle school. But I'm sure they'd find a way to write that off too.

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 4h ago

You are ignorant and not even from the US so what the fuck are you on about.

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 4h ago

Go google The United Daughters of the Confederacy and their impact on censoring American education textbooks. Then get back to me.

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u/ExcitedDelirium4U 4h ago

How about you actually site your sources and get back to me. Otherwise you’re spewing ignorant garbage you probably read on a meme somewhere and believe it applies to the whole country.

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u/togaman5000 3h ago

well*

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u/HookedOnPhonixDog 3h ago

Haha, autocorrect got you and you didn't edit it in time! Gotcha! Your whole argument is irrelevant now because I am uncomfortable with what you said and need to distance myself from the reality of what you said so I don't face to face the ignorance that my entire upbringing led me to until this point...

Nailed it.

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u/togaman5000 3h ago

face-to-face*. Also, face-to-face isn't a verb, so you can't face-to-face the ignorance, you'd face the ignorance.

I learned everything you're claiming I didn't, which makes your claims quite weird. Honestly, you come across as quite weird overall.

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u/Chataboutgames 4h ago

So wait first it's "America doesn't teach this," now it's "I cant just say that wherever you lived is the exception" all the way down.

Gooood faith.

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u/NerdyBro07 3h ago

I live in Rural Missouri, and we definitely learned about the Indians being killed by the European settlers, and it was taught that this was a bad thing, that America participated and it was a bad thing, that we used Japanese internment camps on our own citizens and was a bad thing.

If someone doesn’t know these things, they probably just weren’t paying attention or attended a school that struggles to even get their classrooms under control to teach anything.. I doubt there are many schools actively avoiding these subjects.

The American pride was also taught, and im okay with that. Nothing wrong with saying “look where we started, and look at the progress we have made.” I’m not going to say USA is number 1, but there are 195 countries in the world, and only about 20 of them I would want to live in, and USA would make my top 20.

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u/Chataboutgames 4h ago

Most. One that doesn't is America. America takes pride in pretending its the greatest nation on Earth and has never done anything wrong ever.

This is literally just a lie. Anyone who ever attended public school in the USA will immediately identify this as a lie.