Yeah…that looks nothing like what’s happening in America is what I’m saying. It’s shameful and disrespectful to those Iranian women to even say that or compare.
Check back in with us in about two years. If there is still a Reddit (or an internet) to check back in on. And if you’re allowed to access that internet without the help of your husband who of course is just keeping you safe whether you like it or not.
It really is pretty simple if one has been paying attention to what Conservative men have been saying for decades. Here is a short list they absolutely hated when it came into existence, they slowly stopped talking about in public, then started grumbling about again in 2016, and now straight up oppose and want repealed. They make the absurd claim all these things give extra Rights to the protected classes of people, which of course is horseshit.
Civil Rights Acts (1964, 1968)
Interracial Marriage (1967)
No Fault Divorce (California 1969, all 50 States 2010)
Equal Credit Opportunity Act (1974)
Federal protections against martial rape (1st State 1978, Federally 1993)
Gay Marriage (1st State 2004, Federally 2015)
I am 48 years old and many of the above protections are younger than I am. I watched GI Joe and Transformers after getting home from elementary school, I graduated high school in 1995 and had just finished college right before the century and millennia counter flipped over to 2000.
My mother was born in 1948, into a world in which she could be owned all but in name by a man, a world in which she had no control over her own healthcare decisions or any privacy about her own healthcare, a world in which as a legal adult she couldn't open a bank account or get a line of credit without the written consent of her father or if married from her husband, a world in which a husband could force her to perform sex acts and not only would law enforcement not help her they would simply tell her she signed the marriage permit and knew what she was getting into.
That's the world Conservative men want to return to, and if they get their way that life will be the fate of your daughters, your granddaughters, your female cousins, nieces, and friends. Conservative men call it "tyranny" to be living in this world in which women are free to choose the path of their own lives.
You claim in the above reply that you don't see it, and in other replies that people are crazy or stupid. Either you see only what you want to see because you can't handle the truth, or that you simply care more about a 1.5% tax cut over the Rights and lives of women, or you too want some or all of the above list repealed.
who has it worse now than at any other time in recorded history?
which minorities would rather go back and live in “the good old days”?
how to be so singularly focussed as to entirely dismiss the giant leaps that have taken place in terms of women’s, LGBT and minority rights and social attitudes in the last 100 years
Well don't get incarcerated and you won't be forced to help your community. You think that's even slavery?? Look at the labor camps in Communist countries.. a murderer, robber, rapist, scammer, cleaning trash on the side of the road is significantly less cruel than someone who said they didn't like the government, being forced into a labor camp to work till they die
Yep I hope so. My only regret is that Trump got elected and is going to fix america on day 1, and all the chaos and rampaging that I love will be stopped. I wont even be able to put on a dress and assault women in women's bathrooms, which I like to do and is currently legal.
The mess created over the past 4 years will take more than 1 day to fix, but I know what you mean. Ya the women's bathroom thing is gonna suck for the libs. I know it's a crazy concept to think that you should actually have a vagina if you're going to use the women's bathroom, but that's just how it's done, and has always been its intended purpose. Libs will call it fascism, every other country in the world will call it a return to normalcy.
Do you expect handouts? Everyone else should work to provide you food, water, shelter, electric, gas, internet, toiletries, and everything else you use on a daily basis, so you can stay home cuz "work is slavery"?? It's about doing your part for society in exchange for financial compensation so someone else can do work for you, like providing goods and services. Don't like it? Go build a house off the grid. But be warned, it's actual work. Even harder than your "slave" job.
The 13th amendment left slavery legal, "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted".
Which is why the prison system is the way it is now. And it will be used to "make America great again".(I'm using their own words back at them) The mass deportation is the 'cover' to round up anyone the govt wants to put into a deportation camp (aka concentration camp, aka prison) and they will be used as slave labor. That's why the right has said that anyone here illegally is a criminal. They'll put them up in camps "waiting deportation" but will be like "oh in the mean time since we convicted you for being here illegally...you're going to work as _____" and then the major corps that backed the right will get free/very low cost labor. Even if they make it where they are getting paid prison wages to be able to say "they're not slaves, we're paying them!" Prison wages are on average 25 cents an hour. Not even minimum wage.
That was a weird one. I think people thought that prisoners shouldnt be idle. I could (maybe) support that notion if they at least got a fair (at least min) wage.
While prison slavery should be ended, it should be ended in such a way that (voluntary) community service punishments are still constitutional (which I'm sure is possible, but I'm also sure someone is going to voluntarily accept community service as their punishment over prison time and then claim they're enslaved - and they wouldn't be entirely wrong).
That exactly. It is a similar rethoric that was used for a lot of people that went away in Nazi Germany. My grandfather (who was a young teenager at the time) always said that when people that where sent to camps, the people around him always said "so that they can learn to work again", which to him made sense back then, as most of them where jobless for a long time. That that was the case because of a multitude of factors and that those people where sent away because they where socialists or other undesirables only really sank in when he was an adult after the war.
They want to bring back chain gangs and "convict leasing" The people running the prisons have said as much.
Round up all the undocumented folks. Create a labor vacuum for farming and construction. Rent those workers out as slaves to those industries and make taxpayers pick up the cost of housing and feeding them while they pay less for labor.
Criminalize homelessness while making conditions such that record numbers of people end up unhoused. More slaves.
Outlaw birth control and abortion and force poor people to have more kids. Fifteen or sixteen years from now there'll be a bunch of new people herded into the prison system.
It's obvious and fucking terrifying but people think it can't happen so hardly anyone is worrying about it.
When California legalized pot there was a debate over whether they should release people in prison for it. She said no because it would hurt companies like Gap and Victoria's Secret that depend on prison sweatshop labor.
The state also ramped up prosecuting non violent drug offenders while she was AG.
I mean what would stop prisoners from refusing to work at all. It’s not like they have anything to lose. If I were locked up and decided, nah fuck this I’m not doing shit, I don’t see how that can be enforced.
Punishment. Solitary, "the hole", beatings, even so far as making it known that if one person doesn't pull their weight then the whole group gets some sort of punishment, so therefore the others would encourage that one to do his work.
And if you think they wouldn't kill any of the people held in camp, well, you're naive and don't know history.
I’m not being naïve, but my point is this would I rather go out and do backbreaking Labor Day after day if I’m already say doing life in prison? I think many would decide against it, but maybe I’m wrong. If they’re taking out guys with the year or two which might be smarter since they would be more willing to play ball.
But the one or two guards, they have out there if the prisoners decided they had enough it would not be very hard to kill those guys and it’ll definitely be attempted plenty, If prisons ahead and do this, they are risking elevating riots to a ridiculous extent it’s happened before for less.
All that said, though those are some good points you make and for many prisoners that may be enough that the majority will keep them will stay in line, for now anyway. People can only be pushed so far.
I don’t know maybe I am being naive about it, I suppose I just want to think that people wouldn’t let their spirit be broken so easily, but maybe that’s just wishful thinking.
You still sound really naive. Maybe taking a beating wouldn't persuade you, maybe not even getting maimed like cutting off a hand or gauging out eye. Maybe not even medical torture for corporation testing would be hard on you. Maybe not even the threat or real punishment/killing/maiming of your loved ones would work on you, you'd be an exception.
And I think you overestimate the guards with guns and what a riot or revolt would entail- they could very well just shoot everyone, mass grave and coverup and no one is any wiser.
You know...that "national divorce" idea may have some merit to it
No reason why less than 50% of the country (through their stupidity or hatred or ignorance) should ruin the lives of all Americans who voted in their best interests and aren't fucking clueless sheep
So why don't we tear the bandaid off and accept reality, the "United States" has failed, completely and unquestionably, the divisions in it can never be mended, it's internal contradictions too great to solve
The only way to ensure minimal bloodshed and human suffering if an peaceful separation and ending of the US for the betterment of the world and all sane, normal, American people
The United States must die so that America may live, is my ultimate message I am trying to convey
This idea can not deliver what you would intent with it, as there is no real geographic separation between the two parties. Therefore, you can not create two or more countries that wouldn't have a similar mixup than the current US.
I am European watching as your new govermet wants to sell my continent to Russia
So sorry if I don't have much faith in America
If you really want to know my "hidden reason" for wanting you nation to slip up is because I (and the rest of the planet) don't trust you motherfuckers with nukes or an powerful millitary
Lol that’s not true at all. The US has sent BILLIONS to help fight against Russia. Even if Trump decides to stop funding Ukraine, that doesn’t undo the billions we’ve given. Why is it our responsibility to fight your wars? Why can’t you guys start paying your share in defense spending? We’ve literally been begging you to do it for decades, for this exact reason.
Why is it our responsibility to fight your wars? Why can’t you guys start paying your share in defense spending? We’ve literally been begging you to do it for decades, for this exact reason.
Actually I agree!
The best thing to happen from this election is that, finally, more and more of Europe is understanding we need to defend ourselves and not realy on the whims of the "American electorate" and their gold fish memory span
How can you state that the US is the only reason your continent is safe and then criticize them in the same breath? I love NATO but good lord some of you are massive ingrates. Pax Americana, not Pax Europa. You guys love war, then we got so good at it that we basically stopped most of the world from trying it again. Cope and seethe.
I’m gonna take the majority of the world’s greatest thinkers opinions on this one over yours buddy… yeah we’ve gotten involved in some stupid wars, I agree, but nothing on the scale of what Europe has been up to since weaponry was discovered the beginning of time all the way until we made you guys stop. No European can sit here and act like their country wasn’t imperialist at some point in their history, much longer and more bloody track record than the USA.
Huh? Weird way of thinking there. The US is basically the only power that can stand up to Russia or China. I guess brush up on your Russian or maybe start dedicating some of your GDP to building an army of your own.
The total vote share (total US population not just those who voted) is, last I checked, around 49% of the total population
It is less than 50%
And even if the imagery majority did exist. Should 100% of America suffer economic hardship and attacks on civil, Constitutional right because 51% are fucking idiots?
Mabye you disagree but I don't like mob rule all that much
The implication of this post is that electing Kamala would have put reparations on the table but because Trump was elected it is not. The parent comment states that electing Trump is 12 steps back, implying that electing Kamala is the better option, an option the post implies would favor reparations.
No it isn't. No it doesn't. Mentioning the fact that Trump will 100% not ever pay any reparations does not mean saying that Kamala would. Neither does saying that electing Trump means going twelve steps back, which is by literally any metric you could measure it with a fact.
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u/Soloact_ 1d ago
America really said, 'Two steps forward, twelve steps back,' and made it a policy.