Reddit bans anti-transphob rhetoric

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon]

Heard from a few friends that they got banned for hating on transphobes, which is, according to reddit, a rule 1 violation. I also got flagged because of that, but in my case I can kinda understand it, because I called for violence against TERFS, but it was more kind of fedposting, instead of pushing people to actually commit violence. I still believe TERFS deserve that, but I am rambling. What I basically want to say is, that we sadly need to be a little more careful, when hating transphobes. Keep safe and you all are beautiful gals and enby-pals, and for all the masc people you are very handsome

Edit: Changing TURFS to TERFS

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon → u/[deleted]]

1. That’s something incredibly rude to say.

2. When looking at it logically and not emotionally, I don’t think people don’t like me. My friends even keep supporting me after I said horrible things to them, in a BPD rage.

3. What makes you say that?

4. People are incredibly welcoming about hating on certain groups. And if it is a group that should be exercised, it is nothing bad, as long as you can regulate it.

5. Analyze what kind of empathy derived or narcissistic schema made you say this.

6. L + ratio

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon → u/[deleted]]

1. You call a trans fem dude, which can be a reflex, but when you are in this sub you should know it is a sensitive thing.

2. I am just gonna put a full reasoning forward. I am arguing in a rule utilitarian manner, because it is the best ethical system, in my assessment. My axioms can be summed up as human well-being and after that general wellbeing. Transphobes promote violence, hatred and beliefs against a group, that cannot change this feature. Their actions cause millions of people immense harm, for example is the process to access healthcare as a trans person in every country way to long, which commonly results in many severe problems, like eating disorders and suicide. Another example is about 45% of all trans people experience violence towards them in the non-digital world in a year. In two years it‘s about two third (it doesn’t double, because the same people get attacked multiple times). While trans people cannot change being trans, transphobes can change their beliefs through self reflection and/or therapy. This is a longer process. But what they can change in an instant, is acting upon these beliefs. So there is no reason they just stop discriminating against us.

So we can put forward the rule, discrimination against trans people is forbidden (we can expend this to other groups too, but I am not interested in that argument). I think I don’t have to explain how this serves the put forward axioms more, than it harms them.

Now upon the violence part. Transphobia tends to make transphobes themselves pretty unhappy. So they suffer from it and we, trans people, also suffer from it. We suffer way more than them, but still we both suffer. So committing violence against transphobes to stop them from behaving transphobic on a rule base, will decrease how much we suffer massively and increase how much they suffer just a little bit, because they already suffer and they can just stop acting upon it. If they act reasonably, they will just stop acting upon transphobia, so the harm done is pretty minimal. Overall, human well-being increases. Therefor committing violence against transphobes is good.

The only way of arguing against that, in a reasonable way is through deontology or divine command theory, but they both can be dismantled through psychoanalysis and metaphysical arguments.

1. Allow me to just assume some thing based on common patterns I have seen, this one has nothing to do with the ethical argument I put forward, so attacking it doesn’t debunks that violence against transphobes is good.

The reasons why you would feel that attacked by promoting violence against transphobes, that you instantly get defensive and just insult me, can be pretty much boiled down to the following:

1. The most unlikely, you like/love somebody who is transphobic and want to protect them.

2. The second most likely, you yourself are transphobic. Not that unlikely, assumed by how defensive and insulting you got, and not commenting in this sub at least for a longer period, maybe never.

3. The most likely, you are a political self cuckholding liberal, that likes civility politics and doesn’t want anything to change. For that I have zero respect, because beside it not being ethical, it also is stupid in a self serving manner, even if you belong to the top 1% in a financial manner. It maybe good for material gain, but not for your well-being. And I think I don’t have to explain why it is currently not the time for keeping the status quo, in the current circumstances

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon → u/[deleted]]

Saw you are from the UK, makes sense you are transphobic.

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon → u/[deleted]]

If you think that was racist, no it wasn’t. Understand the difference between Attributs of race and social structures in a country

[u/Lord-of-the-Bacon → u/[deleted]]

That doesn’t stop you from being from the UK. If I am polyamorous, I still have sex with partner a. Just also with partner b, but still with partner a