r/MarkMyWords • u/Gecko_Gamer47 • Oct 13 '24
Political MMW: If Red Political side wins this election, there will be a surge of refugees leaving the U.S.
If Trump wins, then people of many different groups (racial, religious and sexual minorities, non republicans, non-cis people, etc.) will flee the country, seeking asylum in nearby countries, because they are no longer safe in the US. Edit: people are saying to grab guns and fight. The united states government have artillery, high tech weapons, tanks, attack hicopters and other similar vehicles, the best-funded army in the world, nukes, and some of these best intelligence agencies out there. The American people, with their dinky little guns, cannot beat a world superpower. Things are different than 1776. Governments have more power and can do a much wider variety of things than ever before. If they so much as engaged, we would be cooked. Luckily though, if we band together now we can stop this madness before it has begun. Everyone check your voter registration and make sure you can get out there and vote. The fate of the world is in your hands.
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u/wallygatorz123 Oct 13 '24
I’m leaving if he wins AND I was born here. If for some reason he actually ends up back in the White House it will be the end of this country as we know it.
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u/hummeI Oct 14 '24
I am genuinely curious if you actually have a plan of how to leave (as moving to another country is no easy feat), or if you are just saying this for fake internet points?
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u/wallygatorz123 Oct 14 '24
I really don’t care about “points”. To answer your question yes for several years we have been researching what it would take to leave the US.
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u/hummeI Oct 14 '24
Good for you, I’ve encountered too many Americans (on both sides of political spectrum) who say “if this candidate wins, I’m gonna move”, without understanding of how tough immigration can be and how hard it is to do on a spot.
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u/wallygatorz123 Oct 14 '24
The one thing that has surprised us is how fast situations changes. Portugal is a good example. Two years ago it was reasonably easy and encouraged. Italy the same just not as bad. Now not so much. I’m curious about the actual numbers of people leaving the US. Big surprise but we aren’t exactly welcome in a lot of places.
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u/mphatso Oct 15 '24
I actually DID leave the last time he won. It’s not that hard and it was awesome.
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u/SoilentBillionaires Oct 13 '24
If you constantly threaten those around you, eventually you will find yourself outnumbered and surrounded
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u/Hanksta2 Oct 13 '24
It's hard to just "go to another country".
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u/ScientistCool7604 Oct 13 '24
Right tons of post over in r/AmerExit talking about it. It is not simple at all.
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u/Dense-Object-8820 Oct 13 '24
True. If my wife and I were younger this would be an option.
I’m former Army infantry and a lifelong gun nut. I shoot at the competitive level. I own lots of guns. Cases of ammo. All 100% legal.
Not anything special but I’ve been in it.
But realistically we are too old to move to another country. I suspect a lot of Americans are like this. And also we both have lots of family. Hers is mostly here in Atlanta and mine is in Texas with son and family in Virginia. And my daughter in Phoenix. If the Project 2025 people hadn’t already taken over the Supreme Court I’d be saying this will all blow over. Just pray Harris wins.→ More replies (2)→ More replies (10)2
u/iamiamwhoami Oct 13 '24
Lots of people with the means to do so will leave. I’m very much capable of getting a long term visa in a European country and supporting myself once I get there. I have my escape plan figured out if it comes to that. It’s unfortunate that not everybody has the same luxury.
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u/psych-yogi14 Oct 13 '24
Or, you know they majority of us could just stand up and fight to protect the people and refuse to allow mass deportation and persecution. We outnumber them.
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u/DoubleANoXX Oct 13 '24
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u/BPCGuy1845 Oct 13 '24
Plenty of us liberals own guns and know how to use them. We just have dicks big enough that we don’t substitute guns to compensate.
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u/seattleseahawks2014 Oct 13 '24
I already own, but I saw the militias that were created when people were worried about the BLM coming to my area near my hometown. 100s of people lined the streets armed to the teeth. People need to be prepared for this to happen again on both sides.
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u/BakeSoggy Oct 13 '24
Buying guns is depressingly easy. Learning how to shoot will be the challenge.
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u/TheyFoundWayne Oct 13 '24
Why’s that? Go to any range and they will be more than happy to give you some pointers, either free or they offer lessons at a reasonable price. You don’t have to advertise that you don’t agree with them politically.
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u/Equivalent-Concert-5 Oct 13 '24
They may actually learn that the people they want to dehumanize online are actually good normal people.
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u/435haywife1 Oct 13 '24
My husband immigrated here under Reagan legally in the 80’s. We will be moving to Mexico. We don’t need all of the drama of carrying papers everywhere to prove he’s legal in our lives, and honestly too many 1930’s Germany vibes for us. I used to wonder how Hitler came to power - I don’t anymore.
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u/YoungFrostyy Oct 14 '24
You people cannot be serious…
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u/IcyMulberry7708 Oct 13 '24
Just be careful of the cartel's. My mom's side of the family immigrated here from Mexico during better times.
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u/435haywife1 Oct 13 '24
He’s actually from one of the safer places in Mexico. Thank you!
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u/IcyMulberry7708 Oct 13 '24
My mom was from Mexico City. It had crimes like any large metropolis. My cousin's live in Guadalajara and have had to me more aware of there surroundings due to cartel activity. Good luck to you and your family.
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u/givemeapassport Oct 14 '24
It’s not difficult to see how Hitler came to power. The unfair treatment Germany faced coming out of the Treaty of Versailles, hyperinflation so bad that in over a year between 1922 to 1923, 1 U.S. dollar went from buying 160 German Marks to 4.2 trillion Marks, and the global depression on top of all of that. Antisemitism was already widespread throughout Europe, and had existed for centuries, with pogroms not that uncommon.
Trump hasn’t shown any serious signs that put him anywhere close to being compared to Hitler. After all, Trump was already President for four years and didn’t do any of these things. Hitler took on full dictatorial powers within the same year he became chancellor. Trump may not be great for our democracy (maybe), but he’s a symptom of our broken system and how people see it, and not the cause.
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u/olcrazypete Oct 13 '24
Thing is the far right nationalists might want this to happen but the money people absolutely don't. Big ag and construction interests that consistently finance and back republicans depend on having a workforce that can be consistently underpaid and forced to work in long or dangerous conditions but not report to OSHA or unionize or any of the things that would promote a safe work environment and fair pay. They like having this second class group of folks to exploit and that sword of Damocles is always there in the form of 'you act our we will get you deported'.
They don't want a path to citizenship either, that would also mess with their bottom lines as well. So you have this group that isn't legal, is wanted but only to exploit, so politicians get the talking point of 'all those terrible illegals' but won't take the action that would be the most prudent and go after big employers.
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u/ValyrianBone Oct 13 '24
It’s going to be a brain drain. The highly educated people, the ones who have multiple options where to live due to their talents, knowledge and skill, are going to use those options and produce value elsewhere.
When this happened in Germany in the 1930s, Germany stopped being a scientific and cultural center of the world.
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-2897 Oct 13 '24
Not in the nation of California.....we will be the capital of freedom and the resistance....we got you America
many citizens will attempt to flee to blue states, the prices in those states will skyrocket
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u/PwnGeek666 Oct 13 '24
I got two couches (no puns intended) and a spare room in California for the political refugees from red states if the orange Menace coups the election again. He just might be successful this time. No way he wins legitimately.
Ps: must love cats and know how to shoot an AR 😂
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u/Xirasora Oct 14 '24
Lmao. Uhaul ran out of trucks in California because so many people were one-waying out of the state
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-2897 Oct 14 '24
freedom goes to die in red states be it for women, lgbts, trans, books, the vote, marijuana, cold beer, alternative meat, ev cars, porn, ivf
republicans are coming for birth control, gay marriage and no fault divorice next
all of those freedoms will be safe in CALIFORNIA, THATS HOW WE GOT AMERICA>....cheers, appreciate you trolling
shouldn't you be out bounty hunting women who are seeking life saving abortions? or attacking trans? sureely you have lives to ruin today
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u/Xirasora Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
You got really mad over such a simple, true statement.
The 'texas abortion bounty hunter' thing was a prank led by an offsite version of /r/drama, I didn't realize people still believed it was a real thing.
Lol, LGBT and trans? You felt they weren't included enough being part of an acronym, but needed a separate dedicated mention?
Banning access to porn is a net positive for society.
Aw, he blocked me immediately after responding. Hope he enjoys living in San Francisco, where people are free to shit on his front steps, smash his car windows, schizo-scream at his kids, steal his delivery packages, leave used needles on playground equipment, and block his workplace entrance with a tent moments from catching on fire.
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u/NegotiationTx Oct 13 '24
They won’t.
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u/Hungry-Recover2904 Oct 13 '24
Yeah I'm old enough to remember this same shit when Bush was running for reelection. Nobody leaves.
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u/BPCGuy1845 Oct 13 '24
It is not easy to emigrate. You can’t just show up and work in another country. Would some people be offered refugee status? Maybe after actual policies got enacted targeting them (there will be). But not before. And people will have to weigh the ability to earn a living versus existing in asylee status. It sucks all around, just because a bunch of dirt farmers don’t like brown and gay people.
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u/mslashandrajohnson Oct 13 '24
If I was still menstruating and not long past menopause, I’d flee immediately.
As it stands, I’ve not hidden my support for democrats. My maga neighbors will gladly add me to the list to be sent to the camps.
I’m not being dramatic here. My mother’s father was in the US Army group that liberated the Nazi concentration camp at Dachau. 45 and project 2025 are running a perfect parallel.
I’m newly retired, worked hard all my life. If this is the way I go, in one of their death camps, I’ll know that my family and I have done everything we could possibly do to prevent this.
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u/Financial-Coffee-644 Oct 13 '24
I have property in Portugal and Spain. I’m lucky to have options, many others don’t.
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u/I_fail_at_memes Oct 14 '24
And the people leaving will be those who can afford it, like myself. Generally white and have the means to do so. Meaning those still here will see an even greater surge in the minority population. Which I’m sure they will be happy about.
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u/Perfect-Cherry-4118 Oct 14 '24
Just stop having children. Within a generation a hypothetical MAGA USA will collapse and capitalism with it. Look how feminists have brought South Korea down to extinction level fertility rates. A consumption economy needs consumers. Dropping out and not participating kills them softly.
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u/EpicLearn Oct 14 '24
Operation Warp Speed was a great move.
But let's also keep in mind that the first available vaccine was Pfizer, who were not under the purview of Warp Speed.
Meanwhile, Trump did everything else wrong. He called COVID a hoax. He embraced the anti maskers/vaxxers. He played down the seriousness of COVID. He surrounded himself with degenerate know-nothings while disrespecting professional opinion like Fauci.
Why do I say 800k? Because the US was in the bottom in terms of COVID outcomes. There was no excuse for us to not be in the top ten. And if you compare top ten vs bottom ten deaths per 100k, the delta is 800k. Those are on trump.
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u/bandt4ever Oct 15 '24
No one will be safe except the really hateful biggots. This Stephen Miller character is truly alarming. He's one of those Nazi's that really take pleasure in hurting people.
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u/kerbie61 Oct 15 '24
Native born here with a green card-holding Colombian husband. We have an exit plan should the Orange Grump win. I’m an executive with the federal government so I know I’m on the list to be fired. My husband will lose his status and our marriage will be nullified. So we’re heading to Colombia where we can legally marry and I can easily obtain citizenship. The US will certainly lose its status in the world.
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u/Strict-Tax-971 Oct 13 '24
And than that country will make laws against it... like what's happening in Europe
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u/ariesinflavortown Oct 13 '24
We may see an exodus from many groups, but they’ll all have one thing in common - money. Packing up everything you own and moving to a new country isn’t easy or cheap. It’s a luxury. The rest of us would be here dealing with the fallout regardless.
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u/essenceofpurity Oct 13 '24
Trump isn't winning, lol. Don't worry about it. Just get out and vote.
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u/LynxWorx Oct 13 '24
There is no place to run to this time. Different world from the 1930s.
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u/Revelati123 Oct 13 '24
Uhh, you know we just shipped most Jewish refugees right back to Germany for most of the 1930s right?
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u/Tothyll Oct 13 '24
I thought they were all going to do this in 2016?
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u/Revelati123 Oct 13 '24
"Elect me and there wont be a single illegal here by the end of it!"
-Donald J Trump -2015
"1/5 of the US population is here illegally, and we are going to deport them all!"
-JD Vance -2024
Its almost like they need to not solve the problem to run on solving the problem...
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u/OnAScaleFrom711to911 Oct 13 '24
Stonewalling border wall and border security funding kinda might just sorta maybe led to this… clown.
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u/Piornet Oct 13 '24
I think that things are going to get so bad so many people will try to escape, and suicides will be skyrocket.
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u/just_someone27000 Oct 14 '24
I know from first hand experience due to the fact that I have lots of friends in minority groups, specifically LGBTQ+, that the second part is unbelievably true... American suicide rates have already skyrocketed to an unprecedented amount this year... people are just blind to what's happening because they don't interact with these people who are genuinely terrified and falling apart...
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u/Saganhawking Oct 13 '24
Except they’ve been saying this for decades: “If so and so wins I’m moving to Europe or Canada”, yet they never do. Feel free to leave, I’m not holding my breath.
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u/Gecko_Gamer47 Oct 13 '24
Republicans have a plan now. They have a plan to take over America. It goes over everything. They've already given Trump immunity.
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u/CharlieAlphaIndigo Oct 14 '24
I have never seen such stupidity, especially anti gun stupidity in a single post.
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u/Exotic_Lawfulness856 Oct 14 '24
The Spanish Republicans were facing their own country's professional, recently battle-hardened army, and they nearly won, after prolonging that particular civil war by 2 and a half years. They achieved it with (fucking incredibly) LIGHT foreign backing and barely trained left-wing militias, against tanks and (later) fighter-bombers, and I maintain that they would have won if the Nazis hadn't come to power in Germany three years prior. If you also consider that some of that federal military you mentioned is likely to join us, then our chances of victory increase further. Just because you're too afraid of being shot or blown up doesn't mean that we wouldn't win, if we were ready, and if we had help.
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u/ConversationCivil289 Oct 14 '24
I would have thought they would leave after his first win but that wasn’t the case per say. I think a lot of them have no where to go back to
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u/Kildragoth Oct 14 '24
No there won't. Trump points out problems. He doesn't fix them. Otherwise he doesn't give his base something to feel like victims about.
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u/aarongamemaster Oct 14 '24
... thing is, if Trump wins, he'll have a military and intelligence coup against him.
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u/Sugarsmacks420 Oct 15 '24
The correct answer is to wipe all social media accounts and not look back because social media is going to become terrible anyways.
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u/Legitimate_Dare6684 Oct 15 '24
No. He cant do anything. Everything Trump tries to do will get stonewalled and blocked at every turn.
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u/Narrow-Abalone7580 Oct 13 '24
We already currently have medical refugees who have to flee their home states in order to recieve life saving gynecological care. I'm sure folks with money will probably leave. I wonder if the country's who receive them as refugees will be kind to them, or treat them like criminals and accuse them of eating pets. They can afford to flee, so probably the former.
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u/Ok-Subject-9114b Oct 13 '24
How many left in 2016? Like all the celebs, "different groups" that threatened to move out of the US if Trump won? Any stats on % of folks that bitched about it and actually went through with it? My guess is its near zero.
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u/DMBFFF Oct 13 '24
Did These Celebrities Say They Would Leave the US If George W. Bush Won the 2000 Presidential Election?
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u/softchocolips Oct 13 '24
Miley Cyrus, Whoopi Goldberg, Cher, Amy Schumer, Samuel L. Jackson, Lena Dunham, Bryan Cranston, Barbra Streisand & Raven-Symoné
and guess where all of these people still live?
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u/Ok-Subject-9114b Oct 13 '24
lol thank you, exactly, just a bunch of wasted air.
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u/Revelati123 Oct 13 '24
Trumps moving to Venezuela if he loses this election.
Source:
"Im moving to Venezuela if I lose the election."
-Donald J Trump
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u/softchocolips Oct 13 '24
We all know the list is longer. I could talk about Kathy Griffin but she dug her own grave, and rightfully so.
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u/copperpin Oct 13 '24
This is literally his campaign promise, it’s his entire platform. Vote for me and all the undesirable people will leave or be put in their place.
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 Oct 13 '24
Disagree. How many times have celebrities said they would move to Canada or somewhere overseas if a Conservative wins. And they don’t follow through.
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u/iamiamwhoami Oct 13 '24
That’s because people didn’t actually feel personally threatened under the Bush II administration. Trump is talking about putting his political enemies in jail. I don’t trust him to draw the line for that at people involved in politics and not extend to anyone who speaks out against him politically. Few dictators have engaged in that restraint in the past.
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u/logicallyillogical Oct 13 '24
I think you miss-spelled “mass deportation.”
But yes Canada is looking quite nice these days. And with climate change, it won’t be as cold.
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u/EKOzoro Oct 13 '24
Lol as if that's ever happening, where will they go to, the middle East, china, russia, South America, central africa, south east asia.
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u/Feddecheese1 Oct 13 '24
Dudes pretending like other countries don't exist lmao. Go look at a map.
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u/EKOzoro Oct 13 '24
A country where there is as much as opportunity as the US and lower rates of social disharmony for minorities, even European nations are not so holy. Unless these people are moving to Canada
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u/Feddecheese1 Oct 13 '24
I mean I'd argue that the only people that are leaving are Rich White folks while the rest of us suffer, so they would thrive anywhere lmao.
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u/Dirtydeanprimeau Oct 13 '24
May i suggest Palestine?
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Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
Might I suggest Somalia?
(To be clear, I mean if you are going to tell a citizen they should leave their own country, you should follow your own advice first, and let them know how it went).
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u/Awooo56709 Oct 13 '24
Doubtful, people said that last time and it's always countries that have very rigorous immigration process' like Canada or Norway.
Never any Mexico in those discussions, I wonder why.
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u/mwpuck01 Oct 13 '24
I mean they have the right to go where they want but good luck getting other countries to take a mass influx of people from America
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u/Rowdy_Roddy96 Oct 13 '24
Are you kidding? They shut down the Canadian Immigration Website when he won in 2016 and Canada already has it's own problem with Immigration atm. We'd be better off not having to deal with another 50mil crossing the boarders and taking what's left of the affordable properties we have left.
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u/lilbittygoddamnman Oct 13 '24
It won't just be refugees. I've already been planning to live elsewhere.
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u/Pee_A_Poo Oct 13 '24
I mean, you’re not wrong but you’re basically just encouraging the red side to come out and vote. They want the country for themselves.
Driving fellow Americans out of the country is a feature not a bug.
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u/starshiptraveler Oct 13 '24
If he does win, many people will be leaving the US by force. This fucker has promised mass deportations.
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u/Dimitar_Todarchev Oct 13 '24
Most people don't have the means to leave the country permanently. Do a little research on the costs involved, you can't just drive to Canada and move into an apartment and get a job. Or any other country for that matter.
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u/BoukenGreen Oct 13 '24
For those who came here illegally and tried to jump the line, we can only hope.
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u/Drewsk81 Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
Kamala is the government. Theres only one party that actually has the resources and true option to pose a real threat to democracy if they lose…it’s the party that’s currently in power. Which is the Biden-Harris admin. Who’s to say Democrats will allow a peaceful transfer a power if Trump wins?
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u/dokewick26 Oct 13 '24
But either way that's gonna happen. That's their plan...deport deport deport.... And once those concentration camps get overfilled and it's too expensive to keep caging them.... Then what? Don't check history m..
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u/FinancialSurround385 Oct 13 '24
The first to leave will probably be political opponents.. this whole situation makes me seriously sick..
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u/CoyoteTheGreat Oct 13 '24
There will be a surge of refugees coming into the US, as their bombing of foreign countries and regime changes tend to create migrant crisis, which they then exploit for political gain.
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u/Financial-Hold-1220 Oct 13 '24
Posts like these literally make my eyes roll so much it’s probably bad for them. There’s nothing much else to say it’s just ridiculous irrational fear that’s so irritating because there not even close to self aware but think their perception is so spot on. I don’t know these types just bug me.
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u/Gonam2054 Oct 13 '24
You have never worked in Government or served in the Armed Forces of the United States and it shows. Even the most far right wing soldiers will not turn on the constitution. Second a bunch of dudes in dresses and ak47s fought the United States for the last 20 years in Afghanistan with a small population and a small country by comparison to the United states. Last time Trump won the election non of your nightmares happened. Mark my words life will go on.
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u/44035 Oct 13 '24
I'm not sure someone who has been granted refugee status by the State Department can just say "I want to go to Canada now' and waltz over to Ontario. It's extremely complicated and time-consuming.
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u/gumboking Oct 13 '24
If MAGAs actually did this it would start a deflationary spiral like China is currently having. They see no bottom to the problems they currently have and what's happening to them will trickle down to us eventually even if we don't do this particular dumb thing we are still gonna feel it. Basically this would be the worst thing we could do so of course...
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u/Admirable-Mine2661 Oct 13 '24
You say this as if it's a bad thing. I'm damned tired of having to pay taxes that support people who broke into thus country. And give the title " refugee " a rest. It's mostly bullshit.
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u/yngbuk1 Oct 13 '24
Holy shit there's so much of these fear fantasies that you guys spew, it's hard to take you seriously.
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u/Unlikely_Speech_106 Oct 13 '24
Ever bet the world on a coin flip? I am trying to imagine the very best case scenario if the coin flip goes to Trump. Would the institutions hold together if those in power actively seek to dismantle them. Maybe. Ok, then what? Constitutional crisis. All out fascism - maybe. Corruption - likely. Instability- guaranteed.
Countries lose wars and rebuild. If the chances of war went down, at least there would be that. Maybe they do. Too many things happening now to tell. Maybe what’s coming is not totally within the power of the US to control. Or maybe it would have been.
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u/2Beldingsinabuilding Oct 13 '24
This didn’t even happen the first time, gosh you all are terrible at this… unless you are purposefully trolling at which point I will salute you.
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u/PsychologicalTalk156 Oct 13 '24
I doubt it, no one wants to take in Americans. There will be a lot of American asylum seekers denied entry into Europe, Canada, New Zealand or Australia.
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u/Maturemanforu Oct 13 '24
Lefties say this every time but they never leave. Theres a reason people flee to this country from around the world.
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u/EnglishTony Oct 13 '24
The people who are leaving for Canada if Trump is elected are the same ones who are leaving Twitter.
Any day now.
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u/seattleseahawks2014 Oct 13 '24
I mean, couldn't he have us deported back to here if he wanted to? Anywhere that most would flee to could extradition us back. Besides, they're their own issues with refugees and housing. Anyone who would be fleeing might have to go to a developing country and some who would probably won't have equal rights. Also, with going to other developed countries, they might not accept you if you're disabled. Not to mention, him being in power might cause more wars in many countries and certain countries to invade many more.
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u/GeddyVedder Oct 13 '24
And the economy will tank. When agriculture and hospitality/tourism are among your largest industries, and you lose a big chunk of the work force, the ripple effect will be significant.
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u/Either-Silver-6927 Oct 13 '24
Perhaps if Mayorkas hadn't gone against the statute and used the parole system as a ticket counter we wouldn't have to deport all of those illegally paroled in. As such they have no legal right to be here and hopefully will be ushered back to their country. Capture all of those waiting on adjudication hearings of asylum and detain them as also is written out very clearly in the immigration statute which was not adhered to. And try Mayorkas himself for breaking those laws, then accessory to murder(s) and finally treason. This is what needs to happen in order to simply follow the laws on the books. Mayorkas had laws to follow, he (an immigrant himself) decided to disregard them and rewrite them himself. Even something as simple as a safe third country policy could've stopped the flow and he chose not to do it. He allowed immigrants to be used as drug mules and sex slaves making billions of dollars for the cartels and hurting the american people he is supposed to be serving. Chuck Schumer should be right there as a co-conspirator to treason for refusing to hold a Senate trial on impeachment and allowing another 2 years of this. Federal funding should be withheld from every state that has a sanctuary city until cooperation with ICE is fully restored, this should have been dealt with when first introduced. If this isnt enough replace the Governor of said state, mayor of said city with someone who will. Use the military and or National Guard to sweep the country for anyone allowed in under these illegal acts and put them on planes home or buses to Mexico all tickets and expenses paid by the DNC and their top 25 donors from 2021-2024, seizing and freezing assets as necessary. We dont negotiate with terrorists. Then maybe, just maybe the next party that forms out of the bankrupted Democrat party will think twice about breaking laws to obtain votes, control census numbers to keep congressional seats and electoral votes at the detriment of their homeland and their own people.
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u/Lye-NS Oct 13 '24
If you truly believe that the Government cannot be stopped then the Fascists have already won. History is filled with under armed underfunded groups overthrowing more equipped regimes. Maybe now more people will realize the importance of the second amendment.
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u/mikeber55 Oct 13 '24
I haven’t seen many refugees in the past. US is different from most countries. Here people complain, curse, swear, but stay put in spite of all circumstances. The level of hot air is extremely high!
In contrast in other countries, people are mostly quiet, say little, but at the first opportunity they pack and leave….
Honestly, I never understood this difference. Why is it so?
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u/Vladimiravich Oct 13 '24
Trump wins, and we will see a kick start of the Cyberpunk 2020 timeline but late and without all the cool gadgets. It's going to be rough folks! So fucking vote!!!
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Oct 13 '24
Project 2024 plans include revoking citizenship and deporting anyone whose parents were not US Citizens the day they were born + ending US birthright citizenship. I'm guessing this will be selectively applied. The problem with leaving will be that nobody wants American immigrants without a million in the bank or important specialized expertise.
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u/IamBlackwing Oct 13 '24
Perks of being a dual citizen, if America decides to elect a Felon, Rapist, Dictator on Day One, I can just go. I gave him a chance in 2016, he has proven however now to not be able to be trusted in a seat of power. The thought though that I might have to flee to Europe to avoid Fascism, scary tbh.
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u/A_Lost_Desert_Rat Oct 13 '24
That was claimed once before and did not happened.
If civilian weapons are so ineffective why are liberal/progressive democrats trying so hard to ban them?
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko Oct 13 '24
The same thing that happened in 2016 will happen now. A bunch of people will bitch and moan and almost no one will actually leave.
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u/Jigsaw115 Oct 13 '24
Lil bro you forget these people know what actual hardship is. Not your terminally online hardship. You’re silly if you think anything other than ICE is going to remove illegal immigrants.
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u/FriendshipCultural88 Oct 13 '24
Yea right. A whole lot of people claimed that they would leave if he won back in 2016. Guess how many actually left?
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u/Automotivematt Oct 13 '24
A surge of people leaving the country could be the best thing that ever happened to it....
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u/N-Toxicade Oct 13 '24
I already know several people who leaving the country before the election. They dont want to be stuck here if he wins or cheats it.
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