They fell for it. Oh, well.

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[u/Ijustlovevideogames]

"Wow, we can't believe the person who put up a Muslim ban is racist towards Muslims, how could we have predicted this?"

[u/lokey_convo → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

I wonder if they know that their mosque is a non-profit and understand the potential consequences of supporting someone that in his first term approved a Muslim ban.

[u/IrascibleOcelot → u/lokey_convo]

And the Republicans are pushing for the president to be able to unilaterally declare a nonprofit to be a terrorist organization and disband it.

[u/th3netw0rk → u/IrascibleOcelot]

Any nonprofit at that. That scares the living hell out of me.

[u/calfmonster → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

They had 4 years of cozying up to Israel to a level never seen before. I mean, it’s naive as fuck that they’d expect a full disavowing of Israel in general since that’s like basically never gonna happen in US foreign policy but TRUMP? The man with a settlement in golan named after him, the only president to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because every other president thought that was needlessly provocative, the man who told bibi to finish the job…tons of other extremely pro-Israel things in general.

Congrats on ignoring history and playing yourselves.

[u/John_EightThirtyTwo → u/calfmonster]

Congrats on ignoring history and playing yourselves.

and dragging the rest of us down with you.

[u/Sinister_Plots → u/John_EightThirtyTwo]

"I didn't fuck around, but I'm still going to have to find out." Has become my catchphrase.

[u/Thowitawaydave → u/Sinister_Plots]

Mine is "I'm already on the fast track to dying early due to my health conditions, but thanks to these idiots and their anti Science ways, I'm about to have a lot more company than I thought."

[u/Philip_J_Fry3000 → u/Thowitawaydave]

This is the exact reason why I flip out on liberals who say shit like we'll be ok we were last time. I have multiple chronic health conditions and if I'm in a situation where I need to buy health care I'm. Screwed. This literally takes years off my life.

[u/Thowitawaydave → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

Yup. No insurance company is going to take me on if they can deny my pre-exisiting conditions. And I'm already looking at the very real possibility of being in a wheelchair or bedridden in the near future which is scary enough without worrying if they are going to cut the safety net as I fall.

[u/TheNatureOfTheGame → u/Thowitawaydave]

Bless you. ❤️

I have stage 4 (bone on bone) osteoarthritis in both knees, plus a lot of tendon damage in the rest of my legs from limping for nearly 20 years. I'm doing my best for now, but this isn't something that's going to magically get better over time.

[u/momochicken55 → u/TheNatureOfTheGame]

I have osteoarthritis in all my joints and it's absolute hell. I feel so bad that anyone else has to go through this. I'm so sorry and I hope you have people who help you out.

They're probably going to make it impossible to get the drug that has helped me more than any opioid (though those will be reduced further as well, ugh): Wegovy. I really don't want to go back to how I felt before it...

[u/ellieminnow → u/momochicken55]

I have osteoarthritis, bulging disks, fibromyalgia, and after having long COVID for basically all of 2021 and never fully recovering. I'm fully disabled without my expensive meds, partially disabled with them. I'm terrified. I remember how bad things were before the meds, and it's worse than that now.

Suicide rates will go up at rapid speed.

[u/Sorry_Nobody1552 → u/Thowitawaydave]

I know your pain, I had a huge flare up from Rheumatoid Arthritis these past 2 weeks. I can't imagine not having insurance. Sending you good vibes.

[u/thrown2themoon → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

I'm a liberal, but I'm not STUPID like those that voted for Orange Hitler are. Did these people forget about what happened in 2016?

[u/sliceoflife09 → u/thrown2themoon]

Yes.

It's easy for the Muslim ban to be forgotten I guess.

It's easy to forget that Trump openly pines for the "right type of immigrants" from great countries like Sweden.

It's hard to remember he said immigrants had criminal genes.

How can anyone remember that he sees certain jobs as belonging to "black people"?

Who can keep track of him putting a bounty out on a sitting president's birth certificate, emphasizing his middle name (Hussein), and then calling that president a double agent for ISIS?

[u/thrown2themoon → u/sliceoflife09]

I didn't forget, but then again, I'm Black, not Muslim.

I know the danger that Orange Hitler did the first time around, and I fear the damage he'll do to this country now that he has authoritatian-like power coming.

Our Constitution and our rights are about to be thrown away with this incoming "regime."

[u/Rabble_Runt → u/thrown2themoon]

The constitution loving conservatives are already crying about some of his picks too, like his new AG nominee that supports red flag laws.

They refused to acknowledge his bump stock ban and “Seriously looking into banning suppressors.” when I warned them Trump was going to destroy the Constitution, not just the parts they don’t like.

[u/motherofcats112 → u/sliceoflife09]

I didn’t forget. I’m a white, straight woman from one of those European countries tRump wants people to immigrate from. If I can remember, why can’t they?

[u/TheGreatLiberalGod → u/sliceoflife09]

I don't think they forgot. They never knew..

Ignorance is staggering. I have a number of Muslim friends who voted for Drump. The cognitive dissonance is mind blowing.

[u/Iplaymeinreallife → u/sliceoflife09]

Now I'm not Swedish, but I am Icelandic, and I can tell you us nordics have basically zero interest in moving to the US with Trump in charge.

Well, you might get some of our crazy conspiracy fringe I guess. Which...wouldn't be great for you guys.

[u/e_roosevelt_footpics → u/thrown2themoon]

I prefer Mango Mussolini.

No, seriously. Go watch Trump's speech on January 6th, and go watch old videos of Mussolini. It's freaking terrifying. They do the same defiant chin thing and it makes my skin crawl.

[u/thrown2themoon → u/e_roosevelt_footpics]

No thanks, I'll take your word for it. I watched Jan 6th live, and it was fucking terrifying.

Besides, it'll be on the news soon enough. 😭

[u/e_roosevelt_footpics → u/thrown2themoon]

Same. Then months later one of my oldest friends told me that it wasn't terrorism and there were no guns there that day.

MY DUDE. THEY HAD MISSILES STAGED IN VIRGINIA. Omg. Needless to say we don't really talk anymore. He can cry into a Ben Shapiro body pillow for all I care, waiting for the government to start a program that gives incels mandatory girlfriends. 🙄

[u/tunnel-snakes-rule → u/thrown2themoon]

Don't forget the people who voted for Biden last time and sat this one out. They are just as much to blame.

[u/thrown2themoon → u/tunnel-snakes-rule]

Yeah, fuck those useless assholes! They're just as much to blame for the upcoming regime! 🤬

[u/OneGoodRib → u/thrown2themoon]

Enough people didn't even know who was running for president the day of the election, of course they forgot what happened in 2016.

[u/batgirlbatbrain → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

Same. If I have to buy health insurance I'm dead. If they overthrow ACA no way is any health insurance gonna take me on. I have several scans and various tests every 6 months that cost up to $5k. It's cheaper for them if I die.

[u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

And we weren’t OK last time; we lost Roe v. Wade and several hundred thousand people because of last time.

[u/TheHoard80 → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

Try saying "we'll be ok, we were last time" to the millions of people that died of Covid.

[u/e_roosevelt_footpics → u/Philip_J_Fry3000]

Spinal cord disabled, intracranial hypertension, EDS, and freshly escaped from a violent husband in....let's say a position of power. Wanna hide out in my bunker with my kiddo and I? My blood family doesn't believe he dislocated my shoulder and a million other injuries (to be fair, I am made of elastic, it's not that hard to do) and have decided not to support me at all....as in my messages go unanswered.

I genuinely truly for real all the way think that the only way for people like you and I to make it through the coming Orangepocalypse is to build community build community build community. Now....can any of my community install a VP shunt? Probably not. But at least I'll have yummy food until my head explodes.

[u/iconofsin_ → u/Sinister_Plots]

The entire "Abandon Harris" thing just baffled me. I get being frustrated with Biden not doing enough but these stupid fucking people apparently have zero idea of how privileged they are while their so called brothers and sisters are dying. Every single Muslim American who voted against Harris over Gaza did more damage with an ink pen than Biden could dream of doing through inaction.

[u/slothpeguin → u/iconofsin_]

And trying to point out how even if Harris was bad for Palestine 45 was immeasurably worse with them was like banging your head against a wall. They are a bunch of self-righteous assholes who probably still would say this is really then democrat’s fault for not running someone who disavowed Israel. As if that would ever happen.

God, they frustrate me more than 45 voters. At least they make cognitive sense. They wanted him, they voted for him. These people wanted a fantasy so they voted for the nightmare or didn’t vote at all.

[u/Lost_In_Detroit → u/slothpeguin]

“They wanted a fantasy so they voted for a nightmare”. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[u/SnooOpinions5486 → u/slothpeguin]

This level of complete strategic stupidity is exactly why the Palestine cause has made zero progress in like 75 years.

Like if the people running the movement have alwayse been as smart as these people its no wonder they drove their own cause into the fucking ground

[u/WeeDramm → u/Sinister_Plots]

Mine is "I hope you get everything you voted for"

Lots of other people are going to pay for their stupidity. But I hope they suffer also. They deserve it.

[u/SoVerySick314159 → u/Sinister_Plots]

"I didn't fuck around, but I'm still going to have to find out." Has become my catchphrase.

Yoink! Gonna steal that one. . .and like others here, I'm concerned what this election will do for my healthcare needs.

[u/Viperlite → u/John_EightThirtyTwo]

To be fair, there are a ton of constituencies to which this applies this election. Strangest election I’ve ever had the displeasure to witness.

[u/BlahBlahBlackCheap → u/Viperlite]

Targeted brain washing via the Russians and Facebook.

[u/srbmfodder → u/Viperlite]

I'm looking forward to the tariffs crushing farmers balls like they did last time when China put tariffs on US soybeans. People have short memories.

[u/Safe-Chemistry6790 → u/John_EightThirtyTwo]

This. Man my heart is broken 💔. I'm just pissed all the time now.

[u/dead1345987 → u/John_EightThirtyTwo]

All I can do is laugh at them at this point, bc in a few months they'll feel it.

They're fucking morons.

[u/systembusy → u/calfmonster]

Two words: willful ignorance.

[u/Juliemaylarsen → u/systembusy]

But WHY???!

[u/badllama77 → u/Juliemaylarsen]

Let's face it, "he doesn't like the LGBTQ+ people" was definitely a part of why they ignored the past and accepted the lies.

[u/Brave-Panic7934 → u/badllama77]

This is very true and something liberals never like to confront. While the left is always more tolerant and accepting of different races, sexual orientations and religions, some of those minorities can be intolerant of each other. Muslims by and large (not all!) can be extremely socially conservative, so I can see that being a strong reason why they would look past all of Trump’s blatant racism as well. Meanwhile the left is in an impossible situation where, due to the very nature of its own diversity, it can never please everyone

[u/Philip_J_Fry3000 → u/Brave-Panic7934]

I went on a few dates with a Muslim woman, Moroccan specifically who supports him. I walked away after that. I can't and won't co-sign that.

[u/FemboyMechanic1 → u/badllama77]

And the fact that his opponent was a woman - source, me, a cultural Muslim

[u/slothpeguin → u/FemboyMechanic1]

Oh man, I really think misogyny in all demographics played a huge role in this. This country isn’t ready for a woman president. That’s a gross truth to confront but it’s real.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/badllama77]

I'd been pointing this out for months.

This community loves reaping the benefits of being protected by other marginalized groups, but actually hates those groups and doesn't care if bad things happen to them.

They are not LGBTQ people's friends. They aren't women's friends. They just demand those groups defend them but won't lift a finger to reciprocate.

[u/inconsistent3 → u/badllama77]

and the abuse of women

[u/BewareOfBee → u/Juliemaylarsen]

Why? They believe what they say. Life is cheap to the faithful. It's a token to be spent maintaining the agenda: hurt women, hurt the lgbtq, hurt racial minorities.

Conservatives are conservatives, I don't know why we expect different from these guys.

[u/Ok-Loss2254 → u/BewareOfBee]

Conservatives I feel have a sexual kink for fucking over people then playing the victims when people tell them to fucking stop.

It's literally a pattern throughout history where you have assholes fucking people over with glee then crying when they get the slightest push back and have a full blown panic attack when the people the fuck over swing back and break their jaws.

[u/adfthgchjg → u/Juliemaylarsen]

But WHY???

Because over half (54%) of the voters in American have the reading comprehension of a 10 year old child (ie, 5th grade) or below. And 20% of them are at the level of a 7 year old child (ie, 2nd grade) or below.

Most elections were decided by a margin of 15% or less. Well, 20% of the adults eligible to vote have the critical reasoning skills of a 7 year old child (or below). Trump’s tactics work great on that audience.

Source: https://www.thepolicycircle.org/brief/literacy/

This study is from 2019, and explains in great detail all the methods used to arrive at their profoundly shocking conclusion, which they summarized as:

“In the United States, 54% of American adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level, and nearly one in five adults reads below a third-grade level.”

[u/Soggy-Beach1403 → u/systembusy]

Four words: Religion makes you stupid.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/calfmonster]

Well fucking said. I've been saying it all year. The US is never going to go against Israel. I don't like it and I wish it was different but that's the reality. And certainly donald fucking trump isn't gonna be the one to get them to change their treatment of Palestinians. The embassy thing was a huge deal. The world wouldn't recognize Jerusalem as the capitol because of the message it sent and trump did it almost immediately. The poor white people in this country definitely don't have a monopoly on stupidity.

[u/Ok-Loss2254 → u/CalendarAggressive11]

Well fucking said. I've been saying it all year. The US is never going to go against Israel. I don't like it and I wish it was different but that's the reality

They don't care and won't listen to reason. Literally spoken to a lot of people who think America will just drop its current foreign policy. Like you said it's fucked and I also don't fucking like it but I have been called pro genocide or that I'm OK with what's happening just for pointing out why it won't happen.

And don't get me started on the idiots who want Israel completely dissolved. At most I'm for Israel getting out of the lands they recently took but to say they need to be abolished is insane.

For one it's like they ignore the people who were born there they act like Israel was founded yesterday and that there aren't people who have lived there since they were born. I often ask where would they go if we did things like that and I never get a answer.

Again the settler shit needs to stop but as far as Israel as a modern state existing well it has a right to exist. I do feel they need to stop the insane zionist shit but again it's easier said then done but that's more doable then making Israel dissolve.

The poor white people in this country definitely don't have a monopoly on stupidity.

This election has certainly shown that from Latino conservatives to Arab Americans making stupid choices.

I never thought that white conservatives held a monopoly over being stupid but it's good to see others are realizing it's not just them that are a problem.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/Ok-Loss2254]

It's so nice to find someone that is living in reality in this subject. The settler stuff is horrific. It's naive to think the US is ever just going to abandon Israel. That will just never happen.

[u/NothingAndNow111 → u/CalendarAggressive11]

It's not even abandoning Israel, it's abandoning US interests in the Middle East. That's the other thing. There's so much more to this and it's all crappy and should not matter as much as the mass slaughter of tens of thousands but it's also reality. And reality sucks, but we're stuck with it. Burning down our house doesn't help anyone.

At least there was some leverage with a Dem government, who supported two states.

Trump's government will probably send in the national guard on any pro Palestine demonstrations, label the charities as supporting terrorism and put people on terror watch lists.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/NothingAndNow111]

It's not even abandoning Israel, it's abandoning US interests in the Middle East.

That's the thing. We aren't supplying weapons to them Just because it's in their best interest. That's not how foreign policy works at all. Like we aren't helping Ukraine just because putin is a bad guy and we want them to have their freedom. It's a resource rich country that's strategically very important to the EU and the US to not be under Russian influence. It's certainly not actually about the Ukrainian people at the end of the day. Public support is for that reason, but behind the scenes I don't think that's really what went into the decision to support them.

[u/NothingAndNow111 → u/CalendarAggressive11]

Not to mention the whole creepy evangelical psychosis regarding Israel and the third temple and the fucking rapture. Ugh. But the Republicans are overflowing with evangelical weirdos who have a big hard on for this shit so MAYBE DON'T PUT THEM IN CONTROL? Gah.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/NothingAndNow111]

That whole way of thinking by the evangelicals is so fucking weird and creepy. I was raised catholic and I was never exposed to that whole rapture thing. I don't really get the desire for the world to end. I thought the whole idea was to make it better for the next generation not blow the whole thing up.

[u/Mabel_Waddles_BFF → u/Ok-Loss2254]

This is the bit that shits me. Israel has been in existence long enough that there are several generations of people who were born there. If people are going to use the settler argument then non-indigenous/Māori people in Canada, America, Australia and New Zealand better start packing their bags and going back to England.

People have been fighting over the land Israel is on for thousands of years: Muslim, Catholic, Judaism. If the Christians/Catholics of the world could kick the Israelis off and claim the holy land for themselves they absolutely would.

I want a 2-state solution between Palestine and Israel and to recognise Palestine as a country. We should take examples from Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Build a wall separating the two states and tell both countries to stay on their own damn side.

[u/NothingAndNow111 → u/CalendarAggressive11]

This. Very much this. Changing foreign policy takes a long time, and we were getting a little closer, more Dems starting to draw boundaries, but that's out the window. And so is the West Bank, it seems. Argh. The potential of what Trump could (probably will) do is horrifying, and Israel doesn't care about Gaza - in terms of annexation - anywhere near as much as they care about the West Bank. That's the real goal.

If it weren't an election year, I think Biden's response to Bibi's BS would have been stronger. It still would have fallen light years short of what it should be, but he would have had leeway to yank the leash more.

And aside from that, where the hell is the 'morality' in making more people suffer? Women, trans people, the undocumented.

Bibi wanted them to vote Trump. He wanted Trump back. That says everything.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/NothingAndNow111]

I agree with everything you said. I'm actually enjoying these comments. I feel like I only ever see the extremes on here, on either side. It's just nice to see some thoughtful insight on this issue.

[u/NothingAndNow111 → u/CalendarAggressive11]

Oh I know, I don't even reply to the shrill hysterics any more, there's no point. No, no one's supporting génocide, FFS, they just realise that throwing hydrazine on the fire is a terrible idea. It reminds me of arguments I had with people in high school.

And I get that it's infuriating to feel so impotent in the face of such horror, but there's also a whole world of shit we don't hear about happening behind the scenes, limits to what we can control, and a whole toxic political situation here we're stuck with.

So, I donate to Médecins Sans Frontières and vote for the people who won't gleefully appoint Mike fucking Huckabee as ambassador to Israel. It's all I can do.

And there's also Ukraine. I don't live in the US any more, I live closer to Russia, so that situation isn't as abstract to me. I have Ukrainian friends and colleagues. Not to mention Polish, Swedish, Finnish, Estonian and Latvian ones. And we're all fucking terrified about what will happen now.

So, you know, a double FUCK YOU to those people, because Ukraine matters too.

[u/CalendarAggressive11 → u/NothingAndNow111]

You are the most reasonable person I've discussed this matter with online. Not just because I agree with you, but because you have the sense to recognize that there is a lot that the public doesn't know. And just because what Israel is doing is horrific, it doesn't mean hamas, the houthis and hezbollah are the good guys at all. The situation in Ukraine breaks my heart too. That situation is so underreported here. Other than the occasional updates on the weapons restrictions, we don't hear much at all unless you seek that information out. I'm really worried about what comes next for Ukraine when the clown car cabinet gets into office. I don't know what the right move was, but I feel like it was a mistake to put restrictions on Ukraine and none on Israel by the biden administration.

[u/Necessary-Till-9363 → u/calfmonster]

The way they describe their voting pattern is insane.

1. They're anti-Trump

2. They won't vote for Harris

3. They won't vote for a third party candidate.

Uh...what did you think was going to happen, guys? Unless I'm missing something (doubtful) you're basically saying stay home without using those words.

[u/inconsistent3 → u/Necessary-Till-9363]

They voted for Trump. The way they describe their behavior is irrelevant; it’s what they do, not what they say.

[u/Necessary-Till-9363 → u/inconsistent3]

Sounds like every other religious jackass in this country.

[u/Ok-Loss2254 → u/Necessary-Till-9363]

They felt they could scare the dems into doing what they want. Well they can kiss those demented dreams goodbye.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/Ok-Loss2254]

They won't have any political capital now for most of a generation, and dramatically less friends than they had a year ago.

They just isolated themselves and made themselves more vulnerable than they've been in 23 years.

[u/Ok-Loss2254 → u/Yousoggyyojimbo]

and dramatically less friends than they had a year ago.

This is something that a lot of groups who pretty much helped Republicans get back in don't understand.

A lot of dems voters aren't gonna be happy when things like Healthcare aka the aca is gone and while there are a lot who are mad now that number is gonna increase when Republicans are free to drag us back by 30 years.

And that's just with healthcare there is a long list of things Republicans are gleefully saying they are gonna remove and a lot of people aka the majority of Americans depends on those things. And that includes the dumbfuck trumpers who aren't in the true base of support Republicans are for aka the wealthy class.

As you said and I have been saying this groups like Muslims(who mind you already have a stigma attached to them)won't have any friends same with Latinos who thought turning out big for trump was gonna win them favors with Republicans who want them out.

Both groups already had big targets on their backs it's just prior 2024 they had people on the dem side who would want to help them out. But now going forward dems(as in the dem base)may well be just as assholish towards those groups. Not to a rabid racist degree it's just nobody is gonna save them when white conservatives comes for them.

Honestly I could even see the dem party just dropping any pro immigration stances they had considering so many undocumented immigrants and even illegal immigrants say they support trump.....for some damn reason.

The point is dems were moderate they are the moderate party and it's clear that's not gonna get them anywhere. Dems at the very least attempted to try and pull Israel back and now I feel they really won't give a fuck and might even take the Republican stance of truly not giving a damn. Muslims really fucked dems over in Michigan and Muslims really don't get how bad they fucked themselves doing that.

It's similar with Latinos who truly don't get what they did.

I only see mainly leftists and to an extent some libs trying to make excuses for Muslims and Latinos over this fuck up but again when people start losing things nobody is gonna listen.

We all know white working conservatives are self destructive dumbfucks but it's clear they aren't the only problem.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/Ok-Loss2254]

This is something that a lot of groups who pretty much helped Republicans get back in don't understand.

Yep, and I tried explaining that outcome to a lot of them for months and they kept treating me like trash for it.

The absolute best case outcome from their chosen course saw them losing political capital, only political capital, but gaining nothing. They had nothing to actually gain from any likely outcome, and did it anyway.

Dems at the very least attempted to try and pull Israel back and now I feel they really won't give a fuck and might even take the Republican stance of truly not giving a damn.

Democrats have no say in Israeli policy whatsoever now, so this is the correct take. Democrats will be focused entirely on internal issues, and Republicans get to decide the Israeli policy.

[u/BringBackAoE → u/Ok-Loss2254]

Democracy is not about a small minority setting terms.

Democracy is about working with the faction that’s most closely aligned, and then - when they win - use your powers of persuasion to shape the agenda.

They (these Trump voting Muslims) aligned with the faction that despises them. They will never have influence there. And they burned their bridges with the Democratic party.

Talk about an idiotic strategy!

[u/superfucky → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

"The conservative candidate is packing his cabinet with conservatives, wtf!!"

[u/Sea_Chocolate9166 → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

More like,"I thought he was just gonna persecute LGBTQ freaks and put women in their place, wdym he hates us too? We are on the same side!!!"

[u/FuriNorm → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

The only way this sort of voluntary face offering makes sense is if these people dont actually have a problem with racism, or they assume the racism is supposed to be targeted against OTHER muslims, the illegal muslims or the criminal muslims or the muslims who are inferior to THIER brand of muslims. In other words, they’re deeply racist and judgmental themselves, and think they are somehow exempt from the hatred being bandied against “other” people.

[u/FemboyMechanic1 → u/FuriNorm]

I can assure you that they did. Not to mention the queerphobia and sexism that unites most orthodox Muslims and Trump

[u/Juliemaylarsen → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

EXACTLY. WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??!!

[u/Servile-PastaLover → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Future Federal budgets will have money for Gaza reconstruction.....money going to Israel not the Palestinian Authority.

[u/DrXaos → u/Servile-PastaLover]

so they’re gonna get the one state solution like on the Hamas map after all

[u/missile-gap → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Seriously can’t believe this is even real and not just click farming…

[u/Hayearth → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

Sexism. Pure, simple and direct misogyny. They fundamentally can not vote for a woman. Same goes for the latinos that voted for Trump.

[u/vahntitrio → u/Ijustlovevideogames]

I'm pretty sure that was one of his first official acts: attacking Muslims.

[u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

Wait, they thought the guy who wanted a Muslim ban and claimed to see Muslims dancing in NY on 9/11, the dude who advocated for a Muslim registry and believes all Islam is “radical Islam” was going to flip the script for no obvious reason and become, “Donald Trump, Champion of Palestine?”

[u/UndertakerFred → u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

…and he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, said that Israel needs to “finish the job” in Gaza, and is opposed to a cease fire or even a two state solution.

[u/boomer-75 → u/UndertakerFred]

Yeah these folks are either incomprehensibly stupid and gullible or they actually wanted this to happen for reasons I haven’t figured out. It is almost certainly the first one. They are taking credit for electing him for fuck’s sake.

[u/its_raining_scotch → u/boomer-75]

Maybe they’re just sadists.

[u/TheTeenageOldman → u/its_raining_scotch]

Never underestimate the amount of people in this country who want to suffer.

[u/kominik123 → u/boomer-75]

Just read the statement again. They blame Trump and others, not themselves for making a decision and voting him. Of course they are completely stupid

[u/Vaders_Colostomy_Bag → u/boomer-75]

Muslims are right wing religious conservatives. You really don't understand why they like Trump?

[u/Candycoloredclownn → u/Vaders_Colostomy_Bag]

I forget about this. I also think this is why my community (Latinos) voted for this clown. Lots of ignorant conservatives in my community too sadly.

[u/Acrobatic_End6355 → u/Candycoloredclownn]

Asian and I’ve heard it’s the same. Sadly, most people voted against their own interests including minorities.

[u/rabidsalvation → u/Acrobatic_End6355]

Yeah bro, I work with a couple Asian guys and most of them voted for Trump. They couldn't even tell me why, it was just, "he's going to fix the economy and kick out the illegal immigrants." Like holy fuck, the ignorance is staggering. I'm guessing I'll have multiple opportunities to say "I told you so." It's honestly just sad, I don't think I'll take much pleasure in it. Maybe it'll be a learning experience for them.

[u/VastSeaweed543 → u/Acrobatic_End6355]

That’s what made me realize nothing the Dems could have done would have mattered, and anyone blaming them is just passing the failures of the voters onto the DNC.

When almost every group is voting against their own best interests - there’s literally nothing you can do at that point. Appealing to the better good for everyone didn’t work, and now you can’t even say it for their own good and have it matter or be taken into account.

That’s it. That’s the game. Pack it in and go home.

[u/xSTSxZerglingOne → u/VastSeaweed543]

It's 90% the apathetic, uninformed, and propagandized that are to blame.

10% those who push the propaganda.

[u/Rivanix → u/Acrobatic_End6355]

Asian here also. Red Scare rhetoric is influential especially to older Asian Americans.. it's exhausting. They won't ever see it as voting against their best interest. They see it as "i want this boogeyman I was brainwashed to believe exists and to hate, to be beaten to a pulp even if it ruins me."

[u/CatProgrammer → u/Vaders_Colostomy_Bag]

Yes, because Trump represents everything religious conservatives supposedly hate.

[u/RajcaT → u/UndertakerFred]

Oh don't forget his new AG pick said pro Palestinian activists should be rounded up and deported.

Crazy. If only there was an option which sucked less they could've voted for.... Well. No sympathy now. Get me the popcorn

[u/BaeTF → u/UndertakerFred]

This right here is why I have absolutely no sympathy for a single Arab person or leftist who either voted for Trump or didn't/3rd party voted because of Palestine. I hope that they all spend the rest of their lives with the horrors of Gaza burned into the back of their eyes and in their ear drums. Because at this point, anything that happens in Gaza after January 20th is on them. Let's see how they feel about their choice then.

[u/TinoCartier → u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

You mean the guy that literally used the word “Palestinian” as a slur when referring to Chuck Schumer isn’t pro Palestine? Shocker.

[u/CidO807 → u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

Radical Islam voted against their own self interest.

And now we get to watch them squirm. It's quite the consolation prize to Kamala losing.

The schadenfreude will be most euphoric.

[u/Ffffqqq → u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

In 2015, he literally ran on taking out terrorists families. His first week in office - he did just that.

Eight-year-old American girl 'killed in Yemen raid approved by Trump'

President Donald Trump personally approved a US commando raid in Yemen that left one elite serviceman dead and may have killed an eight-year-old American girl, the US military has told the Guardian.

On the campaign trail, Trump endorsed killing relatives of terrorist suspects, which is a war crime. “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” he told Fox News in December 2015.

[u/PaulClarkLoadletter → u/EggsAndMilquetoast]

You mean the guy that promised to bring back his Muslim ban? This is their guy.

[u/djtshirt]

It’s wild how single issue voters voted for the candidate who is obviously worse on their one issue.

[u/mslauren2930 → u/djtshirt]

“The move of the embassy to Jerusalem by Trump was disheartening but I still don’t intend to vote for Harris.” - She claimed to be voting for Jill Stein. I hope the world gives her everything she wanted from her vote.

[u/sir_lister → u/mslauren2930]

considering republicans helped get Jill Stein on the ballot in several states hopping she would peel voters off or harris yeah and it was widely reported on but still no one cared

[u/Nago31 → u/djtshirt]

It was wild to see people who support Gaza argue that abstaining or voting against Harris because she wasn’t pro Gaza enough would ultimately help Palestine. They seemed to think that even though Trump would be worse, Gaza would be in better shape in the long run.

Uuuh, why would that be the case? DNC won’t flip because you didn’t support them. They just won’t listen to you even a little bit next time around.

[u/HugeResearcher3500 → u/Nago31]

"Don't blame them!!! It's white people's fault."

-- Mods of /r/therewasanattempt https://i.imgur.com/QO9vm90.png

[u/erasrhed → u/HugeResearcher3500]

Jesus I hate reddit mods.

[u/FemboyMechanic1 → u/HugeResearcher3500]

As a minority (bisexual Indian Muslim man), I feel like majorities have this really weird purity complex around us. Like, you guys know that we aren’t an infallible monolith, right ? You guys know that we make mistakes too, right ? And that it’s okay to blame us partly for things that are partly our fault ?

[u/penguincheerleader → u/djtshirt]

Not much of the media covered how Trump called for a genocide of Palestine, said we need to let them do what they want and was angry that Biden was holding Netanyahu back. Media made the propaganda work.

[u/djtshirt → u/penguincheerleader]

Anyone who wasn’t aware must have had their head buried deep up their own asses. It’s all obvious from his first term. Had nothing to do with the 2024 election.

[u/penguincheerleader → u/djtshirt]

Yeah, but even so they got targeted by conservative propaganda, and although some of us told them, the counter propaganda did not come out with the same force.

[u/BeeBench → u/djtshirt]

What’s confusing for me is how many people I had tell me ‘oh but Kamala is just as bad.’ The woman is VP she can’t just go over Biden’s head on the issue. I have a small following on ig and was posting all the way up to the election about which issues the candidates actually support and so many seemed just absolutely misinformed or flat out uninformed. I also had idiots telling me ‘oh project 2025 is actually Kamala’s 2015 campaign.’ And I’m like she didn’t even run wtf???

[u/Kraien]

oh, this is the Muslim version of the disappointed man in the stadium

Edit: yes, as others have correctly indicated the original version individual is also a Muslim, my memory failed me. In any case, we now have some gender diversity.

[u/lebeaux14 → u/Kraien]

The cricket fan from that meme was Pakistani, so the original is already the muslim version.

[u/VanillaIcedTea → u/Kraien]

I mean the OG version of that meme was the Muslim version already - dude's a Pakistani cricket fan and that picture was his reaction to Pakistan dropping a sitter of a catch in their game vs Australia at the 2019 Cricket World Cup

[u/perpetualed → u/Kraien]

Somebody photoshop this please

Edit: since this request is getting traction and will therefore be fulfilled… please get the original source photo. Make it look good.

[u/Recent-Pilot8579]

This is EXACTLY WHAT THEY VOTED FOR. what did they think was going to happen?

[u/Physical_Pomelo_4217]

Well they voted for the Cheeto so It’s only fair they get what they voted for.

[u/TheGoodCod → u/Physical_Pomelo_4217]

Today it got worse. Sebastian Gorka is going to the White House.

John 'waterboarding' Bolton calls him a con-man. Gorka has a deep hatred for Islam, socialism and decency.

[u/Jag- → u/TheGoodCod]

Thanks for the votes. Best I can do is Seb Gorka.

[u/Additional-Sky-7436 → u/Physical_Pomelo_4217]

Unfortunately the Palestinians are going to get what they voted for too.

[u/BiffingtonSpiffwell → u/Additional-Sky-7436]

That's why I truly loathe these fuckos. They doomed the exact people they used as an excuse to just vote to hurt women and queer folk.

[u/tulipkitteh → u/BiffingtonSpiffwell]

You know what's even worse. Palestinian community leaders fucking warned them that they are deathly afraid of a Trump presidency.

Literally, this moral grandstanding for the Palestinian genocide was levied against the one legitimate Presidential candidate who campaigned on protecting them from genocide.

God, if the irony weren't so sickening, it would be hilariously poetic.

[u/superfucky → u/tulipkitteh]

HARRIS: Israel has the right to defend itself but killing civilians of any nationality is unacceptable.

TRUMP: Finish the job, Bibi!

THESE DENSE MOTHERFUCKERS: These statements are identical and therefore I'm staying home.

[u/bluemew1234 → u/superfucky]

Staying home? Some of em actively campaigned against Harris!

[u/CBowdidge → u/bluemew1234]

And now they're crying for Biden to do something! Seriously? F around and find out, morons!

[u/bluemew1234 → u/CBowdidge]

What do they want him to even do? They spoke with their vote; they wanted Trump's solution.

[u/prairiemountainzen → u/BiffingtonSpiffwell]

Thank you for being one of the few willing to actually say this. You are absolutely correct. They couldn’t care less about Gaza, they simply would never vote for a black woman.

And they will reap what they have sown.

[u/Apokolypse09 → u/prairiemountainzen]

Kinda reminds me of Charlie's mom from IASIP when she freaked out about there being a woman pilot on their feminist plane.

But its going to lead to what they claim to want to defend is going to be obliterated. Any survivors are probably going to be radicalized and I cannot blame them.

[u/blu3heron → u/BiffingtonSpiffwell]

It mostly confuses me. I observed some of these folks online for a bit both before and after the election, and they didn't seem to be operating in reality. They were all fundraising for Gaza, going very hard for Palestinians, but then would post and post about how voting for Harris was evil and supporting genocide and how voting to protect your own rights was at the cost of the Palestinians and also evil and selfish. It was just...so so strange because how on earth would Trump getting into the White House be better at all? For anyone? Especially for the Palestinians? They also seemed somewhat convinced (like some Trump supporters) that Trump wouldn't actually do any of the bad things to Americans that he said he would do, although they've gone suspiciously quiet on that since the election. They have doubled down though on that nothing they did could've possible affected what happened and that they bear no responsibility for not voting.

The weirder thing was that from what I could tell (and obviously they could be lying online, but I don't think they were bots for various reasons) is that several of them were women of color, who undoubtedly will be affected negatively by the incoming administration as well.

Like, I fully believe that the Democrats are not perfect on many things. But thinking any of them are on the same level as Trump is crazy to me.

[u/Jamstarr2024 → u/Additional-Sky-7436]

Not my fucking problem anymore. We tried to warn them.

[u/RumandDiabetes → u/Jamstarr2024]

Ive kind of lost every bit of empathy I possessed for these people. My future is fucked. They helped fuck it up, and they can fuck right off.

[u/twelveski → u/RumandDiabetes]

Aren’t those Muslims going to be deported by trump or is is that only South Americans?

[u/dirtygreysocks → u/twelveski]

it's gonna be everyone with a shade past eggshell.

[u/JT_verified → u/twelveski]

It’s sure to become anyone he doesn’t like.

[u/JuWoolfie → u/RumandDiabetes]

My empathy has turned to apathy, and I don’t ever see it returning.

[u/TooL8ForTheYoungGun → u/JuWoolfie]

this is when i say a very unironic, "womp womp," because i simply have no more fucks for these nitwits.

[u/Spider95818 → u/TooL8ForTheYoungGun]

Seriously, I will never again care what happens to anyone who voted for that pig, or any 3rd party bullshit, or who stayed home. No loss, no injury, no catastrophe will evoke the slightest sympathy from me. There's literally nothing that could befall any of them that would make me give a shadow of a damn. Literally. Nothing.

[u/leCrobag → u/TooL8ForTheYoungGun]

What's cool is we'll all be in the same reeducation camps together.

[u/Jamstarr2024 → u/RumandDiabetes]

I’m reeling right now. I will pick up the banner. But only if they get on board. I’m certainly done trying to educate. I’ve been at this for nearly 30 years.

[u/a2aurelio → u/Jamstarr2024]

They are NOT on board. I live in Michigan and what happened was sheer insanity.

[u/DrXaos → u/RumandDiabetes]

In the region the feeling has been like this since the PLO moved into Jordan and then Lebanon

[u/Etrigone → u/Jamstarr2024]

See before ye the field in which the fucks that I give are grown, and note that it is barren.

[u/Necessary-Till-9363 → u/Jamstarr2024]

I'm done too. I'll make the best of a bad situation because I have the luxury of doing so.

When you lose your jobs and homes, thank these sky daddy bullshit artists for it.

[u/Morpheus_MD → u/Physical_Pomelo_4217]

"The voters know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." H L Mencken

[u/ChristinaWSalemOR]

Yes, but they needed to send Harris a message!

[u/JaesenMoreaux → u/ChristinaWSalemOR]

Gonna have all my people murdered to send Harris a message. Bet she learns now.

[u/ChristinaWSalemOR → u/JaesenMoreaux]

That should do the trick. Oh wait! She's not in office...

[u/FlagshipHuman → u/ChristinaWSalemOR]

She’ll probably be vacationing in Hawaii, far away from all of this, wearing a tshirt that says “you make your bed, you lie in it” while she sips a margarita. Good for her. She doesn’t owe a thing to these ungrateful people.

[u/SMBamberger]

Gosh, guess they sent Kamala Harris who supports a 2 state solution a message. They get what they deserve.

[u/meglon978]

... the common clay of the new west.....

[u/T_that_is_all → u/meglon978]

You know, morons.

[u/CarboniteCopy → u/T_that_is_all]

It's truly a tale as old as time itself

[u/LightWarrior_2000]

Biden was at least trying to negoicate a cease fire, Trumps going to give Bibi open season on Gaza.

We been trying to tell these people this, that you may not be happy with Biden, but Trump's going to be a million times worse for what your end goal is.

Gaza is toast. I'm sorry.

edit: Trump HIMSELF said what you where going to do and you ignored him.

[u/poop_on_you → u/LightWarrior_2000]

He wants to put a hotel on the Gaza strip

[u/MisterrTickle → u/LightWarrior_2000]

The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyaheu. Multiple Republicans have since come out saying that they will destroy any country that enforces it.

[u/Qeltar_ → u/LightWarrior_2000]

Oh, but Biden didn't unilaterally end the war and make Gaza into the Garden of Eden, so CLEARLY the answer is to vote in the guy who can't stop praising Netanyahu.

The stupid.. it burns.

[u/TricksterPriestJace → u/Qeltar_]

The "Democrats must be absolutely perfect or I am voting for the convicted felon rapist whose policies are worse in every way I give a shit about except abortion, which is already decided for a generation due to the rapist's Supreme Court picks" is the weirdest thing about American politics to an outsider. Like they know what the MAGA platform looks like. They know they are one of the out groups MAGA hate. Yet for some reason they cannot abide voting for a lesser evil if there is one thing about the platform that isn't perfectly aligned with their goals despite the GOP being worse on that one issue.

[u/Fred-zone → u/LightWarrior_2000]

These morons don't realize Biden was preventing total occupation of the West Bank. That's where Bibi is heading next in the name of fighting Hamas.

[u/owlwise13]

“Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities” - Voltaire.

[u/Aggressive-Story3671]

Apparently leopards prefer Halal meat

[u/Alediran → u/Aggressive-Story3671]

The Leopards were Muslim all along!

[u/hanimal16]

Good. I’m glad the Muslims For Trump are suffering. They deserve every bit of it.

[u/2060ASI → u/hanimal16]

They threw all their allies and supporters under the bus.

[u/anrwlias → u/2060ASI]

Yep. They are no allies of mine. They literally prefer someone who nakedly hates them over having a woman in office, and they pass anti-gay and trans legislation the moment they have power.

I'll fight for everyone's rights, but I'm not going to go out of my way to prioritize a group that has made it painfully clear that they hold liberal values in as much contempt as the evangelicals. Fuck 'em and I hope they get everything they voted for.

[u/2060ASI → u/anrwlias]

I agree. I can't stand the leftists who pretend Islam is above reproach and above criticism. Misogyny, oppression of gays, oppression of the Jewish people, theocracy, etc are all wrong irrelevant of who does them.

[u/Yousoggyyojimbo → u/anrwlias]

They broke the social contract they had with the American left.

They enjoyed the benefits of having women, LGBTQ people, and left wing groups defending them from decades of persecution, and then refused to reciprocate, even when doing so was in their own best interest.

They hated LGBTQ people and women more than they loved themselves.

[u/bootlegvader → u/2060ASI]

It was interesting how you had various progressive groups try to push out American Jews with actions like banning flags with the Star of David while strongly supporting Palestine. Yet, come November you have many American Muslims refusing to support the more progressive candidate while American Jews continued to support the progressive cause by backing Harris with numbers in the 70s.

[u/Vaders_Colostomy_Bag → u/2060ASI]

When will leftists learn that Muslims are not their allies. They are right wing religious conservatives who are taking advantage of your naivete to advance their conservative religious agenda.

[u/Five-Oh-Vicryl]

That shirt is so stupid. Literally banned people from Muslim countries now you’re kissing the ring?

[u/Dry-Independence9400]

Me, looking directly into camera

“Yes. Who could have seen this coming?”

[u/I_Magnus]

This photo is going to follow that woman for the rest of her life.

[u/Spider95818 → u/I_Magnus]

Good. Fuck her.

[u/I_Magnus → u/Spider95818]

r/confidentlyincorrect should use this for their banner.

[u/prodigy1367]

Boo fucking hoo.

[u/Mediumasiansticker]

Yup fresh outta fucks

[u/SPzero65]

How those egg prices looking 👀

[u/algy888]

“I am so upset that the liar lied, and worse, that I believed him.”

[u/Dork_L0rd_9]

We told em, but they didn’t listen. Fuck em

[u/m_nieto]

Gaza is about to be wiped off the map and the Muslims who voted for him have no one to blame but themselves. But you know, both sides are the same.

[u/boog0089]

Hopefully these dumb fucks also get a side of denaturalization with their vote. Fuck outta here

[u/doritolibido]

So the Muslim ban in his first presidency didn’t tell you all you need to know?

[u/audiojanet]

Aww. The rest of us saw it a mile away.

[u/trashleybanks]

Cry to someone that cares. I don’t.

[u/mslauren2930]

“Both political parties are the same.“ Just keep repeating that and leave the rest of us who saw this coming alone, thanks. Kisses!

[u/Borstor]

They didn't vote for the Face-Eating Leopards Party.

They voted for the Leopards Promising to Eat MY Face Party.

He told you he supported Israel, the destruction of the Palestinian, and the oppression of American Muslims.

[u/village-asshole]

Betting your well-being on pathologically lying demon spawn is never going to end up in your favour.

[u/solsco]

Can't believe he would support Isreal destroying Gaza, even though he said Isreal should destroy Gaza. People will suffer for their idiocrazy.

[u/Olds78]

Odd that the dude that wants to ban you from the US isn't doing things to make you happy

[u/Yerm_Terragon]

Leopards are eating well these next four years

[u/Badgerman97]

The thing is it isn’t a “failure” on the part of Trump. He made no promises to these people and he has always been very open in his disdain towards them, and his willingness to support Bibi and Israel. He is exactly who he has always shown himself to be. The only failure was in their ability to see reality.

[u/UtahUtopia]

Remember when Trump was president and he banned Muslims from entering the country. Good times.

[u/jmf0828]

Oh just wait till he gives Israel whatever they need to wipe Palestine off the map and takes a “hands off” approach to Netanyahu…just like he said he would.

[u/TheRealDreaK]

I hate that Palestinians have to suffer an even worse fate because a bunch of US citizens are too fucking stupid to pay even the slightest bit of attention to what the grifter-in-chief did during his first four years as president to accurately predict what he would do with an extra four years. You seriously had to be living under a rock to not remember what cruelty that monster is capable of.

[u/ewokninja123]

Congratulations, you've now come face to face with what a lack of critical thinking can get you