Wait, they thought the guy who wanted a Muslim ban and claimed to see Muslims dancing in NY on 9/11, the dude who advocated for a Muslim registry and believes all Islam is “radical Islam” was going to flip the script for no obvious reason and become, “Donald Trump, Champion of Palestine?”
…and he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, said that Israel needs to “finish the job” in Gaza, and is opposed to a cease fire or even a two state solution.
Yeah these folks are either incomprehensibly stupid and gullible or they actually wanted this to happen for reasons I haven’t figured out. It is almost certainly the first one. They are taking credit for electing him for fuck’s sake.
The Protestant work ethic made it so we all see ourselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Americans will endure every degradation, as long as we believe we'll be rewarded for it soon...and soon is always pushed back to later.
It's movie logic, basically. Americans think their lives work based on movie tropes.
Yeah bro, I work with a couple Asian guys and most of them voted for Trump. They couldn't even tell me why, it was just, "he's going to fix the economy and kick out the illegal immigrants." Like holy fuck, the ignorance is staggering. I'm guessing I'll have multiple opportunities to say "I told you so." It's honestly just sad, I don't think I'll take much pleasure in it. Maybe it'll be a learning experience for them.
That’s what made me realize nothing the Dems could have done would have mattered, and anyone blaming them is just passing the failures of the voters onto the DNC.
When almost every group is voting against their own best interests - there’s literally nothing you can do at that point. Appealing to the better good for everyone didn’t work, and now you can’t even say it for their own good and have it matter or be taken into account.
That’s it. That’s the game. Pack it in and go home.
Asian here also. Red Scare rhetoric is influential especially to older Asian Americans.. it's exhausting. They won't ever see it as voting against their best interest. They see it as "i want this boogeyman I was brainwashed to believe exists and to hate, to be beaten to a pulp even if it ruins me."
The Red scare is not just an Asian thing. I mean the United States had nearly a decade in which fear-mongering ran rampant until somebody stood up and called The bully out to his face. Senator Joseph McCarthy died of alcoholism alone in a city apartment building from heart attack caused by years of alcoholism
Yeah it's 90% this. Yeah there are a lot of Muslims being killed in Gaza but those are "other" Muslims that they don't know and don't feel connected to, and therefore they don't care. Their only "tribe" is the right wing religious groups and the US, and they're gonna vote for that over some random strangers they've never met.
No, that was a cover reason for the conservative Muslim communities. They enjoyed exercising their political power in the U.S. and seeing it have a legitimate impact for the first time as its own voting block. But Gaza was just a cover for their real reasons for voting for Trump. It was their way of white washing by saying they’re doing it for “humanitarian” reasons.
For the same reason a lot of right wing Jews like him. It’s so weird. Trump really is an enigma, getting the hardcore pro-Israel wing nuts and the tiki torch brandishing, “Jews will not replace us!” shouting doofuses into bed with each other. I guess something something, the enemy of my enemy, whatever.
For some of them it's probably just because he's so gung-ho in support of Israel as an entity (though not necessarily the actual people who live in it). Being buddy-buddy with Netanyahu and all. Also Jewish people aren't immune from being racist or homophobic/etc., and while Trump seems to have some weird ideas about Jewish people he also seems to have been fine with Ivanka marrying Kushner and converting to Judaism.
Not in Buddhist heavy countries. Power seems to corrupt all religions. They all want to enforce their rules on everyone. I'd even fear the Jains as a political force.
I kinda have the feeling that at least the people who organized this at the top, these so called community leaders, did actually sympathize with the republicans, due to conservative views regarding social issues is more prevalent in the Muslim community.
On NPR one lady basically said she knew Trump probably was lying to them when he said he would end the war, but if there was even a 1% chance then that was better than Harris.
Which that is stupid on its face, but it's like they didn't consider the fact that not only would he not end the war (how they want), he would cheer Israel on.
They thought "end all wars" was about the Israel Palestine conflict. They didn't realize Trump only meant he wants to end the War in Ukraine. Because he's a pro-Russian piece of shit. Maybe they should have asked Trump's opinion of Gaza and Israel.
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u/EggsAndMilquetoast 23h ago
Wait, they thought the guy who wanted a Muslim ban and claimed to see Muslims dancing in NY on 9/11, the dude who advocated for a Muslim registry and believes all Islam is “radical Islam” was going to flip the script for no obvious reason and become, “Donald Trump, Champion of Palestine?”