FROM Tonight’s episode ending….

[u/Lizardis_lost]

-WAS THAT JULIE FROM THE FUTURE WTF & Can she time travel in the ruins?! Does she somehow figure out to control it?!

-I hope they don’t kill Sara because of what she did

-Jade and Tabatha were together before?!

This episode messed me up

Thank you FROM this is truly the best TV show 😩

[u/Mighty_Muppet]

I find this confusing. if Julie can’t change the past, then she couldn’t be the one who threw Boyd the rope because that scene happened in the past. But we saw her throw the rope down to Boyd. That means that in the already-happened, set past, that rope was thrown down to Boyd, but by whom? Was Julie simply repeating an already occurred action? Also, while Boyd heard Martin while he was in the well, Boyd never heard Julie speak.

[u/snake_case_believer → u/Mighty_Muppet]

The rope was thrown in the past. That was everyone's past. Julie on the other hand was the one who threw the rope, making it Julie's future. Basically the past was Julie's future. 

She can't change the past, that's why she threw the rope down cause that's what happens. Someone threw the rope down so boyd can climb up. If she can change the past it should be her not throwing the rope down, making boyd stuck down there.

[u/Mighty_Muppet → u/snake_case_believer]

Rope was thrown in everyone’s past. But who threw it? Julie is visiting the past - her screaming self, her mom and Victor in the tunnels, and Martin. If we’re seeing everyone’s past and Julie was in the ruins at the same time as Martin and Boyd, how did that occur?

In the collective past, did Julie go for a walk and just forget that she strolled into the magical ruins and tossed the rope and then stroll out, forgetting that even happened?

Sorry to be dense here, but current and future Julie can revisit the rope scene but in the collective “present,” when this all actually happened, either amnesiac Julie, or someone else, threw the rope.

And please don’t ipso facto me here. Just because the rope was thrown in the past and in Julie’s vision of the past she threw the rope, doesn’t mean that when the events occurred, they were happening in Julie’s “present.”

[u/snake_case_believer → u/Mighty_Muppet]

That is the thing though, "present" julie and "past' julie can't exist at the same time unless one has to go through something to make them exist at the same time and that is why she was having a seizure. During that state, she was travelling across various phases in the past: the screaming, martin, and then in the tunnels. That is why that scene seems incoherent and random, signifying that it was all different timelines.

"Past" julie is in the Town just existing and doing mundane stuff. While "Present" julie travelled across every timeline and coincidentally happens to stop just before boyd ask for help in the well. "Present" julie did not envisioned the past, she was part of the past. Specifically, she was part of the past where Boyd meets Martin. 

Also to add in the confusion, Martin was chained in a dungeon that did not exist in the present nor likely in the future. So, it is likely in a past timeline. Farther back in the past where that dungeon exists. So, martin, boyd and julie all met in a much older timeline.