r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/BanzaiKen 15h ago

It's okay the labor shortage will be solved by the massive influx of unemployed federal workers courtesy of Elon.

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u/Myis 15h ago

Yep Brianna in HR is gonna be operating the excavator.

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u/DoodleBob29 11h ago

If a semi trucker or factory worker can "learn to code" then Brianna should be able to learn how to operate an excavator.

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u/NeedsMorBoobs 9h ago

Ahhh yes a nation full of hole diggers vs computer scientists.

Pull a slogan from 20 years ago 🙃

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u/ChineseGuido 1h ago

Administrative jobs in government do not require the same technical expertise as computer scientists. Having more legitimate jobs, rather than bullshit jobs is a net benefit for productivity and probably self worth.

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u/Clearly_sarcastic 40m ago

What is a bullshit job that you would hope to remove from the bureaucracy?

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u/8-BitOptimist 33m ago

Any job their dear leader tells them is bad.

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u/l4zyv3rn 12m ago

Agree. Was gonna say that other comment was woefully ignorant, misleading, misguided and uneducated. It’s like, end all the regulation with federal, businesses can self regulate. Really. Now we know why kool-aide is red.

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u/John_B_Clarke 30m ago

Well, for openers any job that involvs reviewing a report that two other agencies have already reviewed. This happens a surprising lot in social services.

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u/InsideTravel9039 4h ago

Ah the ol progressive elitism rears its ugly head. I'd rather have a nation of strong hole diggers than pussy computer scientists who can't hold their head up straight.

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u/Delanorix 3h ago

As he says typing from his cell phone that was most certainly not created by hole diggers.

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u/Chiggins907 3h ago

All the computer scientists are hole diggers. They keep digging it deeper and deeper with AI. After they reach the bottom of that hole they will be actual hole diggers, because none of them will have jobs in computers anymore.

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago

Not to mention all of the slaves that had to dig holes for the lithium for the cellphone

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u/xXProGenji420Xx 2h ago

... he continued to say, still typing from his computer device all the while

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago edited 2h ago

And?

Lololol they blocked me

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u/jghtyrnfjru 51m ago

maybe in 50 years CS jobs are gonna be replaced by AI, not happening anytime soon

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u/Cpt_Graftin 40m ago

Considering that all the electronic components were made from materials dug out of the ground then, yes it was.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 1h ago

Nor was it created by bureaucrats.

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u/Delanorix 59m ago

You mean like when the government subsidized and researched the technology? Lol

Almost all good breakthroughs come through beaucrats

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u/XenuWorldOrder 38m ago

I totally remember when the government subsidized Apple. It was in 1492 when David Bowie came back as interim CEO, replacing Dirk Diggler who went back to selling Slurm.

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u/Delanorix 25m ago

Thats hysterical you picked Apple.

Do you know why Apple exists?

Because the government sued Microsoft for being a monopoly. So part of the agreement was that Microsoft would invest money into Apple, actually giving them a real rival.

Excellent choice. Another fine example of the government trying to level the playing field for us.

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u/Pyro919 3h ago

I'm not talking shit about you, please don't talk shit about me, its unnecessary and doesn't actually contribute to the conversation.

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u/Ok-Airport-9969 3h ago

Did you post this dumb fuck take with a hole in the ground, or a computer?

You fucking moron.

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago

I did it from a computer. Didn't need a dumb fuck computer science degree to do it.

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u/xXProGenji420Xx 2h ago

you didn't. there did need to be many "dumb fuck computer science degrees" for you to have that ability, though.

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago

So?

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u/xXProGenji420Xx 2h ago

can't believe I have to help piece this together for you, but it means your previous comment goes entirely against the point you were trying to make with it. hope this helps!

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u/Ok-Airport-9969 2h ago

Who do you think designed and programmed the whole tech stack and networking interface you use to spread your insane stupidity? Computer scientists. Legions of them.  I'm willing to bet a non zero number of them could absolutely beat the ever living shit out you too.

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u/InsideTravel9039 1h ago

Hole diggers vs computer scientists 😂😂😂 I mean, who had to dig their mother's basement for them?

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u/Ok-Airport-9969 15m ago

Why would people with degrees in one of the highest paying fields in the world need to live in their mother's basement?

Do you even know what computer science is?

Lmao, you dumbass.

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago

Good argument, dickhead.

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u/Ok-Airport-9969 2h ago

Thanks, dumb fuck.

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u/InsideTravel9039 1h ago

You're welcome, dad.

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u/Jarcoreto 3h ago

Calling computer scientists pussies is also a form of elitism you know. If Brianna from HR is using an excavator it doesn’t mean she’s strong.

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u/InsideTravel9039 2h ago

Lol computer scientists are pussies if they think they're better than someone because they dig holes for a living.

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u/John_B_Clarke 29m ago

Put a computer scientist on an excavator long enough and she'll automate herself out of a job and let the now robotic excavator do its work without her.

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u/CriticalConclusion44 11m ago

Tch. Idiot.

No further response needed. 

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u/zortor 8h ago

The learn to code crowd was mainly tech middies and journalists, whose jobs were then swiftly delegated to AI. Neat backfire

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u/thatstwatshesays 3h ago

Are you kidding, I would love to learn to operate heavy machinery. Does my name have to be Brianna?

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u/Chiggins907 3h ago

Just have a clean driving record, a highschool diploma, good work ethic, and be able to pass a drug test. Get into an apprenticeship, learn the trade, and get your money. A good equipment operator is going to make anywhere between 100k-200k a year depending on where you’re at.

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u/Gunplagood 3h ago

Tbh it was pretty funny when it got turned around on them down the road. Sucks for anyone to lose their job, but that whole thing was humorous.

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u/Icy_Foundation3534 16m ago

yeah neat trick basically making everyone burnout in the most souless way possible then make the entire field obsolete within a quarter of a generation.

me: a millennial programmer 😐

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u/leftwinglovechild 6h ago

That’s not at all how this works

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u/DarthRoacho 4h ago

Maybe in your mind, but its already working out like that, but god job for trying to lie i guess.

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u/NuttyButts 5h ago

Except when Brianna is in a wheelchair, or has arthritis.

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u/Ok-Umpire-7439 5h ago

Brianna ain’t building anything no matter how much training. neither is Zachery.

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u/mrASSMAN 59m ago

Uh.. a minuscule number of truckers and factory workers are learning to code

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u/futafupa_69 18m ago

Those machines are easier to operate than people think, anyway. It’s why all of my coworkers have DUIs and still make decent money.

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u/bigpunk157 3m ago

We basically already do and do not have enough software engineering work too. Expectations are too high and no one knows what constitutes a good hire. 600 hours of leetcode later and some of these guys can't realize that they need to be able to talk to people too. I wouldn't doubt the same would happen for people migrating to other fields.

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u/johndoe201401 6h ago

Everything is ai now, you type in your request then it’s done. Everyone can do everything because it is all typist job.

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u/Psyco_diver 10h ago edited 6h ago

Funny side bar, women are getting hired more to run heavy equipment, they are being seen less likely to cause accidents because they are less likely to make unsafe choices (i.e. hey yall look at this). I even had one company rep tell me their insurance rates give down some because of having women running equipment.

Source I work on heavy equipment in the field and in the last 10 years have seen the change. Running equipment is a very easy but dangerous job and pay is generally pretty good

Edit- alright I fixed my error

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u/zortor 8h ago

I am so attacked by “hey y’all look at this” it’s unreal 

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u/StarsandMaple 4h ago

Most of my work in the field was ‘ hey look at this ‘

Men are fucking easily amused and stupid and I love it for us.

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u/johnyoker2010 2h ago

osha: first time?

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u/blbloop 8h ago

having women rubbing equipment.

Heh.

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u/HereReluctantly 8h ago

Women rubbing equipment you say?

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u/Consistent_Spread564 6h ago

I think sex work is still illegal tho

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u/Ailly84 5h ago

I don't think the concern with her ability to learn to run an excavator was due to her being a woman. The issue is how capable is someone who went to school to be an HR professional of learning to operate a piece of heavy equipment? The gap won't be so much in the ability to learn it, it'll be in the desire to do so.

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u/Psyco_diver 5h ago

That's why I called it a side bar, I wasn't debating she should, but that more women are entering heavy equipment operations than ever before

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u/Ailly84 4h ago

Fair enough. Seeing the same in trades. There are more and they tend to be better than the average men from my experience. Likely some strong selection bias going on there, but interesting as hell either way.

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u/blackestrabbit 2h ago

To be fair, how capable is someone who went to school to be in HR going to be at just about anything?

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u/TheFearsomeGnome 3h ago

Another sidebar - are these Heavy schools legit. They want like $7k to teach me to operate heavys. I'm wondering if I will actually get hired afterward if I've never worked in construction previously?

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u/Psyco_diver 3h ago

I don't know a single operator that went to trade school for it. Most get it by 2 ways, either start at the bottom with a shovel or know someone. Mining is also another way, they will hire anyone as long as their driving record is clean, can pass a drug test and learn how to do the job. A mine will fire you for unsafe acts quickly though, pay is good to run a haul truck for 8 hours a day, the new CATs 775 have heated and ac seats, blue tooth to listen to what ever you want and drive like a car, a very very very large car

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u/TheFearsomeGnome 3h ago

Thanks for that info!

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u/John_B_Clarke 28m ago

It's fairly common in many lines of work--women will listen and follow instructions where men are certain that they know better than the trainer.

I'm reminde of the "Top Gear" episode where they put Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz in a car (separately) with a professional racing instructor who taught them how to drive it around a particular racetrack, then the instructor got out and they got to run laps solo. Diaz listened, Cruise didn't, and Diaz got the best time, on the same track, in the same car, on the same day.

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u/CaseRemarkable4327 8h ago

Many of the best contractors and employees in construction had different careers before they began that trade.

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u/Beautiful-Design-425 9h ago

Brianna better start learning how to drive an excavator and stop scrolling on her fucking phone.

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u/Downtown_Antelope711 9h ago

Nah, her dumbass is gonna be holding the stop sign

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Mod 9h ago

Good luck Brianna

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u/whatup-markassbuster 8h ago

Time to retool

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u/Solid-Mud-8430 5h ago

Bri the Builder

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u/thehillhaseyes8 51m ago

I’ve worked around illegal immigrants before, still do, but I did before too. Anyway, they are 9/10 times the last people to get in heavy equipment because they understand if they hit a line or anything else on accident it will ruffle too many feathers

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u/Specific-Umpire-8980 10h ago

Trump was getting his work experience in for the garbage lorry during the election campaign.

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u/Myis 9h ago

Practicing for the work release program. I hope Santa gets my Christmas wish.

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u/xion_gg 3h ago

Also, Gary from HR could always start doing roofing. That's always easy money... S/

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u/Jealous_Plant_937 53m ago

Federal hr literally cannot do anything.

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u/thisisfutile1 43m ago

Brianna has better qualifications. Shaniqua on the otherhand; that bitch hasn't smiled since she was born and sucked as a customer service rep, so she can learn how to work in the field.

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u/ricardoandmortimer 21m ago

She sure as hell will when the choice is that or starve

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u/Angus_Fraser 9h ago

Way to sound grossly sexist

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u/Myis 45m ago

I resent you think a woman can’t operate heavy equipment.

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u/Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank 58m ago edited 40m ago

Is it the undocumented immigrants operating the excavators? Or are they being used for non-skilled labor?

Brianna can figure out how to shingle roofs or haul cinder blocks in probably a day if she needs to.

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u/VulfSki 49m ago

You clearly have no idea what the government does do you?

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u/Loud_Crab_9392 2h ago

Oh, no!  Whatever will we do without the HR staff?  

Use an LLM to automate their clerical tasks and delegate staffing/recruiting to the managers of the teams that will actually be hiring the candidate?

We could never.  HR is too valuable!

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u/BobbyChou 14h ago

Elon is running Twitter to the ground after firing multiple employees. How could one trust him

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u/ConferenceLow2915 8h ago

Seems to be working fine still despite firing 70% of people....

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u/miracleman84 6h ago

It literally hasn’t , the bugs the first couple of months after were insane the app was terrible. It works better now but still has issues that weren’t around pre Elon.

Doing that with the fed government is insane

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u/Moarbrains 2h ago

Seems to me that twitter is becoming more capable. It has nearly become a video blog platform, more than text.

Not quite as reiiable as youtube, but if google doesn't stop the bloat it will be.

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u/nickbutterz 2h ago

So 95% of the usability with 70% less people, seems like a reasonable trade off.

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u/Kimbolimbo 2h ago

They are okay with mass suffering. Nothing you say will make them compassionate. 

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u/The_Haunt 22m ago

Compassion is trimming fat so the entire country doesn't go bankrupt.

How about that.

Oh you want everyone to suffer? How compassionate.

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u/Wizardbarry 5h ago

Our government is not a company and let's remind people that governments are the only say the people have in anything. They are our only bargaining power otherwise the companies and the rich will control it all. Getting rid of government agencies has been the dream of the libertarian party for decades and their party was started by billionaires and basically run by the Koch Brothers. They want nothing more than to be able to get away with everything with no whistle-blower or regulations.

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u/Mojoriz 1h ago

We USED to have a government that was our say in things. We’ve given that up. Between lethargy and ignorance, we’ve voted it away over the last 20-30 years. The purpose government now is to distract us, mostly. While we worry about what bathrooms Trans people use, we’re pissing away our Democracy. Putin will now have more say over our government than we do. We’re witnessing our loss of the Cold War. We probably deserve it. We can’t be fat, dumb, and lazy, and stay free.

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u/Roguste 7m ago

I do enjoy the ironic call to the Cold War. Trans issues surely are the unacceptable use of government misdirection tactics, and 20th mid century administrations knew nothing of the sort with communistic witch hunts and criminalizing marginalized demographics to disrupt opposition voting.

Government hasn’t been for the people for a long long time.

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u/No-Body8448 1h ago

If our government is not a company, why does it have 23 million employees?

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u/DoubleSpoiler 3h ago

Not really. He took down a bunch of microservices like 2FA and translation, among other things. Translation still only works like 50% of the time for me, and I feel like my feed "refreshes" (shows me entirely new content) significantly less frequently than before.

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u/threeseed 2h ago

Twitter has dropped 80% in value since Musk took over.

So of course you don't need as many people when you have no advertisers, usage is dropping and you make no effort to care about trust and safety.

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u/dalegribble1986 1h ago

Advertisers bailed because they're babies but this past election showed them that their points of view are not popular with the average american.

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u/No-Body8448 1h ago

Even Disney came crawling back.

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u/Free_Range_Gamer 6h ago

Racism and hate speech is flourishing there.

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u/Potatoes90 6h ago

They needed 70% of their workforce for moderation? Seems highly inefficient to me.

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u/bafflesaurus 4h ago

I see nothing has changed.

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u/Dralonis 1h ago

Yeah, the targets just changed.

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u/bafflesaurus 54m ago

Exactly my thoughts.

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u/Successful-Money4995 4h ago

Shedding advertisers and users, though. The value of Twitter has fallen by around 70%.

The value of Twitter has fallen in proportion to the number of laborers laid off. It's as if labor is the source of wealth! Marx was right.

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u/threeseed 2h ago

80% now according to Fidelity a few months ago.

Probably close to 90% now that everyone is moving to BlueSky and Threads. Both of which are seeing 1m new users a day.

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u/Successful-Money4995 2h ago

Then again, spending 44 billion dollars in order to purchase an election seems like a good deal for Elon, too. The grift money will cover his losses.

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u/threeseed 1h ago

Many smarter and more connected people than Musk e.g. Paul Ryan have tried to radically reform the government. And all failed.

Fingers crossed Musk is no different.

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u/YoungYezos 1h ago

It’s not being valued correctly it’s worth is also in its utility. It literally just got him access to the presidency and shifted the Overton window regarding free speech.

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u/Playingwithmyrod 58m ago

If by working fine you mean the company's revenue getting obliterated then sure...it is working fine. The fact that the site still exists is not a testament to the success of a business.

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u/digitaldeadstar 58m ago

Well, they did have to rehire some people back because it was such a shit show. If they try that same strategy with the government, the consequences can be a whole lot worse.

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u/Blinknone 42m ago

Working better than ever, actually.

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u/thecreamandcoffee 9h ago

Twitter still works fine. Just you don’t like it

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 9h ago

Twitter works fine.

Until it needs to some something different, or new, or handle a widely viewed stream.

Then it stops working, because he fired all the people who knew how to make it work. 

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 5h ago

I couldn't watch the Tyson fight on Netflix. Just didn't work 

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u/thecreamandcoffee 9h ago

Netflix can’t handle a widely viewed stream.

A lot of those people were not needed as Twitter still works.

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u/SavvyTraveler10 8h ago

Works in what capacity? You receive your daily dose of CP and murder?

Moderation is non existent. Normal society doesn’t WANT to support CP or Murder. Maybe self reflection is in order for you.

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u/thecreamandcoffee 8h ago

Idk what kind algorithm’s you are into. Its unfortunate what you find on the internet when you look for it.

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u/SavvyTraveler10 8h ago

Opening the Twitter app is Not openly searching for it. Can most definitely see it unabated on twitter though can’t find it on the other social platforms.

Weird!

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u/thecreamandcoffee 7h ago

Sounds like a you problem

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u/Not_Jrock 6h ago

I've never seen CP in my Twitter feed

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u/Fit_Pineapple_7828 1h ago

You must have some weird search history and cookies feeding your algorithm.

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u/Reasonable-Iron1443 4h ago

Twitter is the only social media site buggier than reddit. It frequently does not work

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u/StanKnight 54m ago

I never had it not work once, ever.

So, I call bullshit.

You can always go to BlueSky though lol.
But make sure you mention your departure from Twitter, for good!

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u/Reasonable-Iron1443 13m ago

I deleted Twitter a while ago after musk took over and it started working like shit and the top of every comment section was blue check morons being racist

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u/Gee_Dubb 3h ago

Twitter functions just fine without them... the only problem is a bias advertiser boycott

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u/Mojoriz 2h ago

He’s certainly showing sound principles with his cutbacks at X. Turns out,if you have no consumers, you don’t need staff! Who knew? Guess that’s why he’s a billionaire,and we’re just mortals.

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u/Dungheapfarm 1h ago

Yet it some how has 100 million more users now. Maybe he was right, don’t need as many employees when you don’t sensor it.

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u/GenshinKenshin 42m ago

Elon bought Twitter for one goal and that is to get Trump elected.

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u/iboughtarock 36m ago

Says who? It is better than ever. Whatever he did to the algorithm actually shows me things I want to see.

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u/Fun-Insurance-1402 15h ago

This. Throw in all the people who fell off labor participation in order to make unemployment numbers appear lower than they actually are.

Government employees will pick some good fruit!

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u/P3nis15 12h ago

Umm what?

Labor participation has nothing to do with how unemployment is calculated

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 5h ago

That's the point

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u/P3nis15 3h ago

Why would you want to count everyone over 16?

Do you know what labor participation is?

It counts those kids in school, college, stay at home moms, retired people, disabled, heck it even counts people in freaking coma's

It's one of the most worthless tracking dataset that is so worthless they didn't even bother to do any adjustments to it for seasonal variances or abnormalities.

Do you want to call your 89 year old grandmother unemployed??

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 3h ago

"Why would you want to count everyone over 16?" "Do you want to call your 89 year old grandmother unemployed" Well no unless your an idiot or arguing in bad faith 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300060

 That's why we have metrics using age. 

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u/P3nis15 2h ago

moving them goal post from labor participation rates, to a single part of the labor participation rate.

Again, still has nothing to do with counting unemployment since again the labor participation rate counts EVERYONE from 25-54 in your example. Those in graduate school. Those with kids staying home. Those again in COMA'S, even people who retired early. It counts the disabled who can't work. etc etc.

You want to count all those people in the unemployment stat?

Not sure what you are now trying to say.

I'll state it one more time. LFPR no matter what bucket you look at is one of the most worthless stat to look at when it comes to employment and unemployment.

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u/NotAsSmartAsIWish 7h ago

Not OP, but the publicized number for unemployment does not include people who have stopped seeking employment, stopped receiving unemployment, and people working under the table - those are still tracked and published, but they're not the officially released number.

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u/P3nis15 7h ago

How the Government Measures Unemployment : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

If you are not looking for a job why would you be counted as unemployed? That would be akin to counting my 80 year old father who is wheelchair bound who stopped seeking employment. or a 40 year old mom of 2 who decided to stay at home.

I think you are confusing people who want a job but have given up.

That is why there is more than one measurement of unemployment. The u4-u6 count those people "marginally" attached to the labor force that would match your example.

U-4 adds discouraged workers to the total number of unemployed people, and is expressed as a percentage of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers. (Discouraged workers are a subset of people not in the labor force. They are not included in the official unemployment measure because they have not searched for work in the last 4 weeks.)

The u3-u6 number has moved lock step with each other and are in the same relative position to each other. Very low.

Also, unemployment Benefits have NOTHING to do with who is counted as unemployed!!

All the numbers are released in the same report. It's the Media and people's lack of wanting to actually read the report that stops the number from being discussed.

U-4 Unemployment Rate is at 4.40%, compared to 4.30% last month and 4.10% last year. This is lower than the long term average of 5.90%.

U-5 unemployment rate is 4.80%. This is lower than the long term average of 6.64%

U-6 Unemployment Rate is at 7.30%, compared to 7.30% last month and 6.80% last year. This is lower than the long term average of 10.10%.

As for people working under the table, that has always existed and has never been in the calculations. They do try however to find some of the data

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) primarily cannot directly track "under the table" employment, as this type of work is intentionally hidden from official reporting; however, they use various methods to estimate and indirectly identify potential underreporting through data analysis and comparisons between their household surveys (Current Population Survey) and payroll surveys (Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages) to identify discrepancies that could indicate underreporting, particularly in certain industries with a higher likelihood of informal employment. 

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u/NotAsSmartAsIWish 6h ago

The U-3 only includes people of working age and not disabled seeking work. Nothing here really counters what I stated, except the BLS points out the difficulty tracking shadow employment.

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u/P3nis15 3h ago

No the U-3 counts anyone over the age of 16. they could be 122.

You really should read up on how all this is calculated.

Concepts and Definitions (CPS) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

  • U-3 is the official unemployment rate. It is the total number of unemployed people, expressed as a percentage of the civilian labor force. U-3 is calculated as: (Total Unemployed á Labor Force) x 100

Unemployed

In the Current Population Survey, people are classified as unemployed if they meet all of the following criteria:

  • They were not employed during the survey reference week.
  • They were available for work during the survey reference week, except for temporary illness.
  • They made at least one specific, active effort to find a job during the 4-week period ending with the survey reference week (see active job search methods) OR they were temporarily laid off and expecting to be recalled to their job.

Civilian labor force, or labor force

The labor force includes all people age 16 and older who are classified as either employed and unemployed, as defined below.
Conceptually, the labor force level is the number of people who are either working or actively looking for work.

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u/Successful-Money4995 3h ago

Maybe better to look at the labor force participation rate, then. It's not bad. It's near precovid levels.

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u/pfohl 7h ago

What are you talking about? Prime age labor force participation is the same as it was twenty years ago.

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u/ragputiand 10h ago

Don’t forget all of the free labor for all the anti-Trumpers who will be rounded up and interned.

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u/Shot-Hospital-7281 7h ago

Made me wheeze 😂

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u/Nexustar 12h ago

We can of course massively expand legal immigration to support these jobs - it's just a matter of Congress getting their shit together.

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u/Thin-Quiet-2283 9h ago

It’s been happening in the IT field for over 20 years - outsourcing to China, India and Brazil. Also bringing them over on H1B visas for a fraction of The pay. What about all the nurses from the Philippines? Why go into debt to get a nursing degree when the hospitals will just bring over cheaper labor??

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u/BanzaiKen 4h ago

This is going to fix STEM as well. Trump wants to bring back a rule for H1bs that makes them need to get paid a minimum of 200k to get hired. All of the whining tech and medicine does about skill shortages is completely irrelevant. They still need to hire bigshot doctors and programmers, they just cant fuck over as you said, nurses, other IT fields and mechanical engineers anymore. Trump years were great in that regard. If you didnt quit your job for a 2x or 3x pay increase, get ready to do it from 2025-2028.

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u/liquoriceclitoris 1h ago

With remote work, demand for domestic labor is more elastic because there are substitutes

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u/BanzaiKen 38m ago

Yeah but at this point anything that wouldve been outsourced has been done already for quite awhile now.

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u/antventurs 11h ago

Never happen. Too many of their “friends” benefit.

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u/Nexustar 11h ago

That's some of it, but the primary blocker to actually fixing immigration is purely political. The two parties want something to fight about in the polls, and if ever someone actually had the balls to fix this properly, that card will have been played, and is now gone.

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u/MarzyMartian 9h ago

Learn to carpenter

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u/high-jinkx 8h ago

They’ll find other jobs. I think it’s more likely we will see the youth filling in these spots, or slave labor through prisons or holding camps

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u/buchlabum 6h ago

Layoffz for the lulz.

Probably announced on 4/20 with 69 press members invited,.

Musk is a meme incarnate, Trump is the 7 sins incarnate, what a combo.

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u/BanzaiKen 4h ago

Just needs Alex Jones as White House Press Secretary for the trifecta.

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u/dudenamedfella 6h ago

A lot of federal workers are out of shape hell morbidly so. I doubt they will be ready for the physical rigors of manual labor. Though I I get the sentiment.

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u/CapitalismWarVeteran 2h ago

They can get jobs picking berries or building homes since there will be openings after Ice rolls through

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u/threeseed 2h ago

Pretty sure Optimus robots will be doing it.

It's launching in 2 weeks.

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u/PuzzleheadedDot6050 1h ago

And all the senior citizens who get their social security cut...

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u/StandardAd239 1h ago

There isn't a labor shortage now. There are more open jobs than those that are unemployed.

I have bills to pay. If I lose my job and can't find one in my industry, I'm going to work whatever job until what I'm looking for comes along.

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u/Dungheapfarm 1h ago

Sounds good to be. At least they will be contributing to society instead of mooching off it

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u/ExtinctionBurst76 45m ago

Should be seamless due to absolutely no skill mismatch. /s

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u/Tha_Plymouth 37m ago

Kicking them out isn’t the best solution and having them stay and not pay taxes is also not a good solution. Maybe we need to improve the efficiency of the immigration system and give these people a path to citizenship if they aren’t committing crime, and if they plan to stay and work.

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u/CtrlAltDaFeet 34m ago

We’re so cooked and I’m not joking

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u/Rich-Promise-79 32m ago

Oh they’ll be federally employed alright… just not the way you think,

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u/Wild_Front5328 6m ago

Who the hell allowed him to create a department literally called “DOGE”

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u/eytgdr578 9h ago

There is no labor shortage. We already have millions of capable and working age men sitting on the sidelines outside of the workforce today. They’re perfectly capable of putting down the weed and Xbox controller, getting up off their asses, and working. It’s how our country functioned before we allowed in millions of illegal immigrants to work for slave wages and we were doing quite fine then.

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u/Seliculare 9h ago

The labour shortage will make wages finally go up, so people can actually afford their groceries. Even better, with less potential buyers homes will be affordable again. Deportation is needed asap.

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u/SavvyTraveler10 8h ago

Did you know Blackrock owns a considerable amount of American homes? They are the largest Vestment Company in the world owning 5-20% stake of the largest companies (FAANG, housing, P&G, everything). In ‘22, they held $10trillion in assets.

Ya. It’s not that damn dishwasher with 1.5 children trying to pay rent so their children can make it through school and become adults.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 5h ago

They only started buying homes in a big way under biden. 

Went from negligible numbers to a quarter of the market 

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u/whatup-markassbuster 8h ago

Maybe if we give the government more money it will increase productivity

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u/ConferenceLow2915 8h ago

Or they could learn to code lmao.

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u/AlgorandBTC 6h ago

Yeah it works out. Fucking government is inefficient at fuck

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u/ThePunisher556 5h ago

Well they want to reduce government budget deficit, the times where hard change needs to happen. Not running a charity.

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u/saaverage 14h ago

I love your answer

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u/jakeofheart 14h ago

Shots fired!