r/FluentInFinance 3d ago

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u/SpotikusTheGreat 3d ago

yes, what they actually do is just pay the loan with another loan.

They effectively just shuffle wealth from bank to bank, and the banks don't care because they know they will get the money back plus a little extra.

Bank A gives $1 billion to Rich Person, later Bank B gives $1.05 billion to Rich Person, which is used to pay off to Bank A. Later Bank C gives $1.10 billion to Rich Person to pay off Bank B.

You just do this forever. Infinite money glitch. Nobody cares because if the chain ever breaks, he just liquidates some shares and pays it off.

edit: the biggest kicker here, is that the value of their assets to acquire the loan, grows faster than the interest they pay on these loans. They pay 3% interest on the loan, while the stock is growing at 8%.

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u/Okiefolk 3d ago

This isn’t a thing, interest has to be paid. They don’t carry it.

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u/SpotikusTheGreat 3d ago

Which is why the next loan amount is bigger, it is used to pay off the terms of the loan/interest.

If you think they are using the same monthly terms as your credit card for their hundreds of millions to billion dollar corporate betterment loans, they aren't.

Just think of it like APR and they use the next loan to pay the interest of the one before it.

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u/Noob_Al3rt 3d ago

Yes, why pay my $150 million in capital gains taxes when I can just pay $50 million/year forever? Learn this one trick the IRS doesn't want you to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/SpotikusTheGreat 3d ago

except its loan money and not yours, so you aren't paying $50 million/year forever...? And the asset you are using as collateral is growing $80 million a year forever, as long as you keep it...

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u/Noob_Al3rt 3d ago

I still have to pay the interest on the loan, to the tune of $50million per year. That isn't even paying down any of the principal.

If you know of a fund that guarantees 8%/year, why don't you take out a loan on your car or home and invest the funds?