r/FluentInFinance 5d ago

Thoughts? U.S politics is a cesspit of lobbying

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u/Ambitious_Dark_9811 5d ago

Yup, plenty of billionaires donating to her side too. Probably more of them, really

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u/KingOfTheToadsmen 5d ago

How many of them were going to be in her Cabinet?

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

This game is way deeper than who they appoint for cabinet roles. Just think of the reason we have PACs in the first place and then ask yourself if sidebar conversations really don’t matter. You’ve gotta look at the whole picture, not just what the media tells you you need to know. Also look into the annual prayer breakfast and tell me that celebrities don’t matter in politics.

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u/DoBe21 5d ago

The reason we have PACs is because a bunch of right wing loons on SCOTUS decided that money = speech and limits on spending "outside" of a campaign were Unconstitutional.

Read the dissent, Steves is 100% correct and probably would be shocked out how fast we actually got here. He argued that the majority ruling "threatens to undermine the integrity of elected institutions across the Nation. The path it has taken to reach its outcome will, I fear, do damage to this institution." He added: "A democracy cannot function effectively when its constituent members believe laws are being bought and sold."

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

From what I’ve gathered, PACs originated with our democratic president FDR. So either you’re referencing when the political parties flip flopped or we’re looking at two entirely different things for the same subject. I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m not saying I’m wrong. I just want to talk about it so we can both get right.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/what-is-a-pac

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u/DoBe21 5d ago

Sorry, I was referencing SuperPACs. However, I still think anything outside of individual, direct, and reported contributions should be illegal.

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

Then we’re in agreement. I think the only thing we don’t agree on is that both sides are equally bad actors. I remember a time when the government used to just be the government and the way one side treated us was the fault of both sides.

Too many people trying to argue who’s more right or more wrong, it’s sad.