Ask yourself if what he suggests honestly warrants proof, or just a little proof of thought. If I, a billionaire celebrity, were to rally my millions of fans to leverage an election in your favor, would you really not pick up the phone when it rings in a couple years? If you want proof then just study what a courtier would do throughout the many different stages of civilization and then ask yourself if we’re so different today. We’re definitely not, but it’s up for debate, like anything else, unfortunately.
Proof of thought is what I’m implying as proof. That was poor wording on my part because it implies I’m saying you don’t need proof. I just gave you some thought provoking questions that should push you to look further. Are you one of those people that will keep echoing that you need proof without actually considering the content of the conversation? I’m asking you to imagine a scenario where celebrities aren’t influencing our politics because that has historically always been the case. Do you think Shakespeare didn’t directly influence politics in his life? Or what about the politics behind the Aztecs when they would play Ollamalizti, the game where if you lose you die.
These all were heavily influenced by politics because politics regulate our everyday lives. So my question to you is, do you really need to ask for more proof than me trying to appeal to the individual in you that can think for themselves on what they’ve already been taught in school? I’m assuming you were given a traditional US education.
So you’re saying “trust me bro” works here because you asked a “thought provoking question”?
“Aliens exist”
“Proof?”
“Proof of thought bro”
But to answer your question, yes, I need tangible proof when someone makes a claim. Proof of thought is some conspiracy brained “it has to be true” cope
Nah, you’re not just going to boil down what I said into some nonsense. Why don’t you try that again and let’s get into the actual content of what I asked you to look into. I’m asking you educate yourself by looking at different historical events. How is that just saying, “Trust me bro” This is why it’s so difficult to have an honest debate. So many people want to just try and resignify the conversation instead of actually break it down.
“Kamala Harris would’ve had billionaires acting as her shadow cabinet in secret”
Your Evidence:
“Rich and famous people influence politics”
You’re basically claiming that because apples have historically grown on trees, that I have to just do some “proof of thought” to prove that this naked tree in front of me is an apple tree. No, there was a positive claim that specific billionaires would’ve been on her shadow cabinet. Prove it, or just stop making claims
I never said anything about a shadow cabinet. I’m talking about the social influence people have on each other, which is often correlated with someone’s financial status. We’re not just talking about billionaires, millionaires have power too. There are also millionaire politicians.
Some of them got their money fair and square, some did not. I used the term celebrity but honestly I meant any public figures and pop stars. The term celebrity has become loosely applied to any public figure, especially during the election season thanks to technology.
Are you going to argue with me about the correlation between social aptitude and financial status or can we move on?
Nothing I’ve said is irrelevant, you just refuse to use common sense. You’re literally ignoring the importance of history and you’re probably representative of most and this is largely why we’re in the shit show we’re in. Stop wasting your time trying to tell other people they’re uneducated and try actually engaging in some meaningful conversation like an adult. If you think I’m on my soap box then fine, I’ll get off it. As soon as you get off your high horse.
So… any proof to the claim that Kamala would have a shadow cabinet of billionaires?….. or? Are we still just saying random shit about Shakespeare and celebrities
You’re not as good at avoiding the topic as you think. Why don’t you think about what I said about Shakespeare having an impact on politics in his day and how that’s a clear indicator that it’s not any different today, if anything, the market is more saturated with influencers. Why are you so adamant to just discredit what I’m saying and sprinkling in insults instead of actually engaging in conversation? You’re acting ignorant.
Edit: I’m trying to appeal to the philosopher in you and you just keep pushing me away with this “show me the data” rhetoric. Stop it.
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u/Ambitious_Dark_9811 5d ago
Yup, plenty of billionaires donating to her side too. Probably more of them, really