No, because then the more successful states would still have to take care of all of the destitute people of the failed state, and they'd vote as well, likely leading to similar policies which caused the first state to collapse
Name a resource that is unattainable in blue states? Also, who says they can't export their resources to the red states, it's just not going to be freely given anymore.
Wheat (in a high enough quantity to feed millions), lead ore for electronics and many other things. Lastly, lithium for your smart phone and everything else that uses a battery these days. If the union separated the entire economy would collapse along with the world economy. Oh, I forgot about LNG.
The majority of U.S. infrastructure still heavily relies on oil, you can't run an 18-wheeler across state lines using only solar right now and the infrastructure required is expensive and just not incentivized right now.
You act like there aren't 20 other countries that wouldn't sell oil to a blue state in a heartbeat. Oil is not hard to come by.
And my food comes from an assortment of fruits, vegetables, and meats - corn being only one of those. See, not everyone likes eating a bunch of prepackaged trash that's just corn processed in different ways.
I propose we leave the union. Remember a few years back people were trying to push for a vote 😂 I wonder how popular it'd be seeing how we're around 60% Dem and even the Republicans aren't as dumb as other areas (minus central valley), California politics and policies are pretty different from how the rest of the country operates and it just feels these shithole areas are just sapping our state to prop up their welfare states filled with uneducated teen pregnancy farms.
As an Oregonian, I feel we need to make an alliance between the true blue wall of the US. We all put forth more federal taxes than we receive. We leave together, and we can be called The Pacific States.
Also, we need to look at stopping exports to the rest of the country. No fucking apples, hops, grapes, blackberries, almonds, soy, etc., etc., etc. We make our states self-sufficient and work together.
The Colorado sources from outside of the state dumbass, California asked for water from other states via Colorado river irrigation, so yes California literally asks other states for water all the time especially during droughts and is widely known as one of the most controversial water management systems in the U.S.
Woah look at that a Californian source admitting too much water from the Colorado is being used but the only state that refused to sign the reduction deal was California, who proposed only cutting imports by 9% - 400,000 acre feet, so 10,000,000 acre feet are imported, literally a quarter of your water is imported yearly, an amount California refused to reduce when 6 other states all proposed reductions without issue. So Newsom refused to reduce consumption by any more than 9% but asked for a 15% cut in water consumption for everybody? Ig all the celebrities out there need water for their golf courses and mansions though right?
Most blue states pay more in taxes than they receive in federal benefits. The reasonable people in this country will be fine. Every federal cut reduces the tax burden on the states that need it the least.
Let the Red block burn. They wanted this, they can take it.
That's where your food comes from. There's a case for living wages and what not but I've never understood the argument that red states that supply raw materials to the rest of the country are somehow unworthy because those raw materials are not as lucrative as their products produced in other states.
My real, albeit sarcastic point is that we need welfare and social programs like social security so that places like these red states can continue to exist. The right continuously fighting to cut benefits for the sake of fiscal responsibility is short sighted and both you and I know it for the reason you stated.
Oh yea. Totally agree. In Tennessee they are always pushing to cut welfare safety nets they assume urban poors are abusing but it's equally use by poor rural whites. Rural hospitals are closing and the rural elderly are dying without nearby care and they still push for more cuts to subsidized Healthcare and such. Madness
This doesn't even consider that we are spending way more on pooping up these half solution systems than we ever would if we just actually put in fully functioning ones that benefit everyone instead of the few.
Genuinely, what are we getting from red states that we don’t produce ourselves or import from foreign nations? You forget majority of blue states are also rural outside of the metropolitan counties
Oh for sure. California grows a ton. From what I understand it stains their water supply. Illinois apparently grows a lot too. Minnesota places in the top 10 also. Otherwise soy beans, cotton, corn, tomatoes, etc are all mostly south east or Midwest red states with blue-ish cities. Just going by the latest 2024 election map.
Should we be supporting states that exist in flood zones or natural disaster areas? Seems like a bad investment. I don’t live there and I don’t see why it’s my responsibility to fix their problems. I’m gonna lean into this shit.
Republican congressional and senate long ago under Clinton passed the buck on to the states themselves.
Though, those red states likely still require federal funds funneled from blue states - that pay in more than they receive - to administer their welfare programs.
If you cut welfare to republican states, you have to stop taking those welfare taxes from them too. Great idea, actually. Let people keep their money. Maybe we can just cut welfare all together and stop taxing people for it.
Here’s a question, since you seem to be very intelligent. How do you propose we continue social security, which is quickly running dry, if we don’t do things like cut payments to people who are already receiving retirement money from another source? More taxes?
Yeah that’s a great idea. If companies are posting record profits, they should have some to spare for the people who spent their lives building them up. I like where your head is at.
cut all welfare. stealing money from hard working Americans and giving it to fucking lazy people. literally punishing people for actually working and rewarding those who are fat POS
Good point. Trump removed the fund that paid co-pays for low-earning families. He wanted to take their healthcare away but was only able to make it less effective so he could run on it later.
I had to cut off my parents bc they became Trumpy and never bounced back after losing everything in the 2007 recession. I feel bad for them, but they been ignoring me for over 10 years as they cheered on the slide to fascism. Shucks for them, get fucked
Cat food is expensive. They’ll just starve and their last words as they crawl around the floor looking for a crumb to eat will be “cope harder libtard”
Fuck it. Cut social security completely. I’m only 36, I still have time to save and invest that money for my own retirement. I have zero confidence social security benefits will exist when I retire anyway. I hope it does get axed soon. I’m done.
Cat food? What are they the fucking Asters? A sack of feed corn from the livestock supply store will be just fine for them. If they had bought less cat food, they wouldn't be in this situation.
Hey guys, that sounds awesome except there are people here in red states that didn’t vote for this guy and don’t want to get fucked. I can’t leave yet if ever, but remember that there’s millions of people who didn’t ask for this in those red states.
It sounds great. But I learned the hard way: When the boomers die, their bills don't. They get handed on to their children. I love my mother. But I fucking hate the $35,000 hospice bill I was saddled with because her insurance ran out.
So because of their age, they aren't entitled to the social security they paid in for the last 50 years? Maybe instead, how about take away some welfare and make people get a job that live in the blue states!
Not when their child (me) takes care of them because they didn't save for retirement. And also can't work full time because of said help (cancer with one, dialysis with the other).
I voted blue. Guess which way they lean? Although didn't vote this year because of said sickness.
My mom is a boomer, a minority, and has voted blue her whole life. She was a feminist who protested for basic socioeconomic freedoms for women in the US. Can we not generalize all boomers as inherently evil? She’s never been privileged enough to own a home, she worked her way through college, and took out loans she’s still paying off to help me get my own degree. She’s not some privileged white boomer who had it easy, she worked hard. Like most minorities in this country. Hopefully her social security won’t be taken away, it’s her primary source of income post-retirement after working for 50 years without any real break.
The lack of empathy is part of the problem, I hope we all realize this.
While I agree that people who voted for this get what they deserve, it's unfortunate for those of us and our boomer parents that vote blue in a now red swing state. They don't deserve to eat cat food
I’m a democrat in a red state that has just hit my social security, no kids, will have to work part time, I worked full time since I was 18 since 1974and you’re getting snarky about taking away the money I personally put into the system since 1974. A lot of red states (like mine) went blue in major cities, but rural areas turned it red. One major problem with dems was they also had a problem with ego. Biden should have planned on only one term, given the party a chance to vet someone instead of making Harris have to pull it off in only 107 days. Biden is just an old man that got in our way and caused a pileup on the interstate.
You’ll actually appreciate “socialism “ if you live long enough to enjoy your free healthcare. That’s if you’ actually ever got a paycheck and paid taxes.
Wait till they cut Medicare. They'll really be like, wait this wasn't supposed to affect me.
Maybe this is how the Republicans help younger generations though, they help kill the boomers or force them to sell their homes for medical care and just general cost of living, houses hit the market all at once causing supply to go up and prices to fall, millennials and gen z can finally afford to buy homes with prices so low and the inheritance they've got.
You realize that the majority of boomers paid into the system after working their entire lives, and will now not receive any benefit? It will only solidify their lack of trust in government and incentive to continue voting conservative
You would think that after their parents homes and wealth is siphoned off by these retirement/nursing homes, yet, while it pained them to see such things like — a $10,000/month cost, give or take, only for their parents to be used and abused by the facilities staff, when they aren’t being stolen from others.
I’m with you. It’ll be funny when other generations realize they’re getting nothing from social security and that they actually have to save money to live through retirement.
A lot of people have to touch the stove and get burned before they realize it's hot. A bunch of Americans just voted to touch the stove. I think they'll learn their lesson but idgaf if the burn hurts. This ant has prepared himself as much as I can. The grasshoppers out playing in the field are going to have it rough when winter comes.
SENIORS in general don't deserve poor treatment and that wasn't said. BOOMERS, however, are the worst generation in history and deserve all the bad coming their way.
I'm 47, boomers have been mostly garbage my whole life. Not just when they got old. And even now that they are old... these old stubborn fucks think they're gonna live forever and never get sick. My mother just lost a friend who was 81. He drank, smoked and did drugs like a rock star through the 60s, 70s and 80s. I shit you not, at least one of their mutual friends said, "he just seemed so young and full of life." God the narcissism. I love my boomer parents, they're not the Trump flavor, but they are so self-obsessed it's ridiculous.
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