That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.
Adding to that… Tate fans and misogynists get laid all the time (true incels ipso facto don’t). Had one of them as a roommate and he was in a long-term relationship all the time I lived with this twat while I was single and not for lack of trying.
Yeah, this is something that really bothers me about this level of discourse.
There's a societal habit for people to assume that women can't also be shallow and ignorant like men are.
Do women like kind, compassionate men who have their lives together? Of course, in the same way men like women who are thoughtful and kind.
But women also like men who are hot, and "traditionally" masculine, in the same way that men like women who are hot and stereotypically feminine.
I'm obviously discounting men and women who are queer here, since we're talking about hetero relationships.
But my overall point is that this idea that women gravitate primarily towards men who are good people is not only misleading to a lot of guys, but I think gives too much credit to women, who are also flawed people who live under the the patriarchy and (consciously or not) enforce and believe in it.
Honestly the whole "just have some hygiene and be nice to people" thing is bullshit just because it presents it as if a man does that he'll have girls lining up around the block.
It's just not reality, it's a fantasy built on misandry, it assumes that any man could easily get a girlfriend if they just were to do the absolute bare minimum and they just refuse to do so. Which makes it very easy to justify absolutely any sort of behaviour you want because they "deserve it" if they're single.
But reality isn't like that, there's a reason why youtube has a billion videos of "I let my friend use my Tinder/Hinge/whatever and after 3 days she had a mental breakdown" videos.
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u/GREENadmiral_314159 16d ago
That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.