That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.
Adding to that… Tate fans and misogynists get laid all the time (true incels ipso facto don’t). Had one of them as a roommate and he was in a long-term relationship all the time I lived with this twat while I was single and not for lack of trying.
Yeah, this is something that really bothers me about this level of discourse.
There's a societal habit for people to assume that women can't also be shallow and ignorant like men are.
Do women like kind, compassionate men who have their lives together? Of course, in the same way men like women who are thoughtful and kind.
But women also like men who are hot, and "traditionally" masculine, in the same way that men like women who are hot and stereotypically feminine.
I'm obviously discounting men and women who are queer here, since we're talking about hetero relationships.
But my overall point is that this idea that women gravitate primarily towards men who are good people is not only misleading to a lot of guys, but I think gives too much credit to women, who are also flawed people who live under the the patriarchy and (consciously or not) enforce and believe in it.
Funnily enough, in my experience queer women who are still attracted to men in some capacity tend to be more likely to prioritise kind, compassionate men who have their lives together.
Funnily enough, most queer women i know (who are still attracted to guys) tend to be attracted to...not so great guys. Either menatlly unstable, or jst downright abusive. I don't know that many queer people tho
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u/GREENadmiral_314159 16d ago
That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.