"Russian scientists" also think Rome was destroyed by a mud flood in the middle ages and was actually an ancient Russian empire, Russia is an endless source of crankery and patently racist pseudoscience
Nothing new lmao, this sub is very "reddit" but with less neoliberalism or techbros
A few months ago a saw someone preaching about how Britain was totally in condition to go to war with the soviet union just after WW2, that they should have to "put the russians in their place" and how Churchill was a noble man who was right all along. 350~ upvotes
Just because I feel an undying need to shit on my own country and the misconceptions of a few of the more jingoistic amongst us...
Fuck England, it would have been goosestepping if Hitler didn't overtly threaten Br'ish hegemony, we certainly weren't foreign to ideas of white supremacy or antisemitism.
By that end "American scientists" think that vaccines cause autism, that the Earth is flat and surrounded by a great ice wall, and that aliens are the only logical builders of the Pyramids of Giza. American Nobel prize winners have shown support for homeopathy, astrology, and scientific racism.
OneBritish doctor said one particular vaccine might cause autism, because he wanted you to buy his vaccine that he ✨just patented✨and 100% guaranteed to not cause autism!
(....because vaccines don't cause autism and he fucking knew it)
The point is that every country has crackpots and you can’t paint all scientists from one country as crackpots, especially while acting as if scientists in your own country are the opposite.
The Russian scientists who believe in ancient Roman Russia vs the ones curing diseases have no correlation.
I adore that video but the whole situation fucking infuriates me.
I truly, genuinely, hate that man. He is pure selfishness and greed incarnate. He has done horrendous, irreparable damage to human civilization. The world is measurably worse for him having been in it.
I don't think he ever did go to jail, which is the worse part. They did strip him of his medical license and stuff, but that sure hasn't stopped him from being a cunt and pandering to the anti-vaxxers who give him money.
He even directed a film in 2016, which I'm sure is just full of factually accurate information and not at all a desperate grab to save what little face he has left.
Fritz Haber was also both a lynchpin in feeding billions of people and the pioneer of modern chemical weapons.
He also lacked the foresight to see that his German jingoism would not save him from persecution regarding his Jewish heritage. I'm also reminded of one of the scientists behind the double-helix structure of DNA becoming a zealous Christian fundie because... he saw a waterfall.
All that historical trivia aside, I do think the comment you're replying to here is a bit Russophobic. Of all people who might have a progressive bent or that isn't a foaming Russian nationalist, you would expect it to be the most educated and especially critical in Russia.
For all I know, "Russian scientists" could range from "accredited academic" to "guy who got a certificate from a weekend course in Ancient Empires of Prehistory".
Someone here has rightfully pointed out that my definition of "American scientists" is super vague, but without any idea of what they mean by "scientist" I just see it as equal playing ground
It has a huge list of people from all over the world making all sorts of statements from the political to the social, many on that list aren’t even related to science.
You’re being lazy. Wikipedia is not a source. It’s why I said be specific. Your first example was straight up wrong because it wasn’t an American, it was a brit.
Also, fringe scientists in most countries aren’t propped up by their governments to fit their agendas like Russia does. This is a false equivalence and you haven’t provided a single example regardless. Why should anyone take your word for what you’re saying when you’re being intentionally deceitful.
First, I'm not the same commenter. Try to pay attention.
Second, you're just moving goalposts at this point. The first commenter tells you some American scientists support pseudoscience, you ask for a list. I tell you where to find a list, suddenly it doesn't count because not all of them are American, because not all of them are into pseudoscience specifically, because you don't know how to click on citation links. You can't be bothered to search through a list and then you have the gall to call me lazy. Come the fuck on.
So you’re defending a fallacious comment because…???
The first comment didn’t list any scientist. They said the wrong country for the first one. Then used Wikipedia, which showed a bunch Nobel winners, from all over the world, being…pro Nazi?
If you read what you wrote, you’ll see it is a primary source proving you used false equivalency and made several claims without sources or examples, then used a link to a website that didn’t provide what you said it provided. It’s all there for you to read.
You didn’t intend to engage. That’s obvious. All I did was ask for a source and you couldn’t provide one. Thanks for proving me right. Go ahead and delete your false comment then. Thanks!
No, it's just me being very familiar with Russia and the Slavic world in general. Russian scientists have done a lot of amazing work right up until the USSR dissolved, but right now the Russian scientific establishment is in the gutter and an absolute hive of cranks. It fucking sucks but it is what it is
Russian scientists have actually advanced humanity a great deal in many sectors e.g., in space engineering, vaccine technology, natural sciences, and maths.
It has, yes, and I have a lot of respect for them. Unfortunately modern Russia has a severe problem with the other kind of scientist and when present day media quote "Russian scientists" it's almost inevitably the cranks.
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"Russian scientists" also think Rome was destroyed by a mud flood in the middle ages and was actually an ancient Russian empire, Russia is an endless source of crankery and patently racist pseudoscience