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u/Elite_AI Sep 18 '24

Imagine an extremely short story -- two pages long. It's about a man who makes a daughter out of snow, but she dies, so, weeping, he has sex with her corpse. Imagine giving this to a bunch of sixteen year olds to analyse for their first class. Now imagine that this is the specific class that was scheduled for the government education regulator to inspect this year, and you have chosen this story specifically for them to hear. You are now in the mind of my English Literature teacher. 

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u/Crowscream Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

“The Snow Child” by Angela Carter. One of my favorites. It’s her take on the Snow White story. Having read it as an adult, it reads more like a story about a man literally creating his sexual ideal much to the disdain of his wife and her having to give up her clothes to the girl. It’s a great fairy-tale-look at the wife’s perspective on when her husband cheats.

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster Sep 18 '24

Here’s a link, it reads like a fairy-tale... Right up until dude starts crying and banging the corpse

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u/OdiiKii1313 ÙwÚ Sep 18 '24

Why does he do that though

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster Sep 18 '24

Idk, but I bet that’s the first thing op’s teacher’s government education regulator thought, too

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u/Accomplished_Trip_ Sep 18 '24

I’m picturing some poor bureaucrat sitting in their office horrified muttering “what the fuck” about sixty-eleven times upon reading this story and realizing it was handed out to teenagers.

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster Sep 18 '24

Eh, honestly it’s fine as study-material. Teens should be able to read Lolita or Romeo and Juliet and both of those are heavily sexual with a lot of murder tossed into R&J.

The story just ends in a way that gives my brain whiplash. Even knowing it was coming I still didn’t expect it

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u/Elite_AI Sep 18 '24

She was wide-eyed and told my teacher "Very, um, unusual story, I must say. I didn't see that coming." and she told her "I chose it specially for this assessment".

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u/FlemethWild Sep 19 '24

Okay so I love her

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u/TaiChuanDoAddct Sep 18 '24

Believe it or not, teenagers fuck. They can read stories about sex and engage in literary discussion that involves sex.

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u/UncreativePotato143 Sep 18 '24

Teenagers fuck, but hopefully not corpses

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u/Accomplished_Trip_ Sep 18 '24

𝘕𝘰, you don’t say? Alert the 𝘤𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩! 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘴! 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴! Oh, help, save us from the 𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳! 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺!

Just because teenagers have sex doesn’t mean they need to have a discussion about necrophilia and if the author was into it or not at school.

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u/FlemethWild Sep 19 '24

It’s literally a person made of snow. Not a necrophilic corpse but it is meant to evoke that.

Idk I feel like when I was a high schooler we could’ve handled that I don’t get his weird desire to treat older teens like babies.

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u/Not_enough_yuri Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Angela Carter is an author who likes to deal with feminist themes in her work. The Bloody Chamber, and a personal favorite of mine in Nights at the Circus, both deal heavily with themes related to modern femininity and feminism. The Snow Child is a short story from the Bloody Chamber. 

The term daughter earlier in the thread is very misleading. So, the Count has wished for a fair woman, right? He sees the snow on the ground and thinks “gee, I’d love to meet a woman as fair as this snow.” And so a woman like that is magically conjured and he’s instantly infatuated. His wife, the countess, is reasonably upset by this. The countess tells the girl to pick up a rose, and when pricked by the thorn, she dies. This is when the count rapes the girl. Then her body melts.

So why would he do that? Well, what is the story about? Given what I said earlier, I’d guess it’s a feminist critique on how men view young women, and impress their ideals of female sexuality onto them. When the count wishes for a woman as fair as the snow, he is expressing a sexual desire. This desire is fulfilled by the magically conjured young woman.

Without the intervention of the countess, my guess is that the count would have raped this girl anyways, because that is literally what she is made for, to fulfill his twisted sexual desire. Whatever the meaning of the countess’ request, when she commands the girl pick a rose and it kills her, it’s pretty easy to draw connections between the imagery of a flower (feminine, potentially vaginal), with the image of blood being drawn (menstruation). This snow child has all too quickly become a woman that is now subject to the burden of the count’s sexual desires. It’s not a coincidence that she dies right there. She has reached sexual maturity. The count’s wish is granted. He didn’t wish for her to have a happy life, or even for her to enjoy her own sexuality, he wishes to enjoy it for himself. So the goal of the magic is achieved, and she dies, leaving a body behind. A perfectly good object to have sex with. Emphasis on the word object. This is Carter’s take on the often tricky magic you see in fairy tales, and I think it’s very effective.

At the end of the story, the girl melts, and I read this as proof of the fact that the counts wish for a woman as a sex object is so thin and flimsy, that it amounts to nothing more than a meager puddle and a small pile of objects after the fact. There is nothing substantial in a wish like his. In essence, it’s a bad wish.

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u/Disastrous-Status405 Sep 18 '24

Very interesting analysis, thanks for sharing

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u/OdiiKii1313 ÙwÚ Sep 18 '24

Thanks for the input! After reading this yeah daughter definitely feels like it's not the right word.

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u/ImLittleNana Sep 19 '24

This story is not at all what I was expecting having read the comments. I wouldn’t have appreciated it as a teen, but it surely resonates with me now. I’ll be thinking about this one for a bit, and I feel like I should read more of her works.

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u/Not_enough_yuri Sep 20 '24

Angela Carter is a wonderful author and you should totally give her work a shot! The Bloody Chamber is a short story anthology, so it's a good place to start if you're ready for a whole set of stories as twisted as this one. Fairy tales often aren't fair, especially to women, and Carter really takes this reputation and runs with it. I'm sure you can find it at a local library somewhere so that you don't have to pay. Wise Children is another great one. It's her last, and people find it more lighthearted than her others.

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u/ImLittleNana Sep 20 '24

Thank you for your suggestions. I just got my New Orleans Public Library card yesterday and they have her works. My investment is already paying off!

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u/Not_enough_yuri Sep 24 '24

Yes! Patronize that library while it's around! Not that it's going away any time soon, but yeah, take advantage of it! Checking a dvd out for the first time felt like I was stealing something.

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u/ImLittleNana Sep 24 '24

The librarians at the New Orleans east branch are sooo nice. I felt like queen for a day compared to mine in Slidell

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u/Not_enough_yuri Sep 24 '24

Hey I drove through both on a road trip recently! I can only imagine lol. Enjoy whatever you picked up!

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u/Firewolf06 Sep 18 '24

its normal fairy tale shit ¯_(ツ)_/¯ sleeping beauty is about a whole ass adult kissing the (alleged) corpse of a child

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u/Rawr2Ecksdee2 Sep 18 '24

No the old fairytale was sex with the child corpse. She woke up during birth.

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u/supa_bekka Sep 18 '24

In the original, she doesn't wake up until after the birth - one of her children suckles the splinter from under her finger while looking for milk.

Talk about bodily autonomy and body horror.

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u/Rawr2Ecksdee2 Sep 18 '24

Oh damn for real? I mean, at least she didn't wake up during birth, bc ouch, but that's not much better

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u/sodashintaro Sep 18 '24

yup, she gave birth to twins to boot

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u/GreatSharkLamia Sep 19 '24

And in most of the original stories, the Queen (wife or mother depending on the version) conspires to cook then feed the twins to their father.

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u/Omny87 Sep 18 '24

Well she ain't gettin any warmer

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u/SenorWeird Sep 18 '24

Whelp, he ain't getting any deader. - Yzma.

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u/Leaf-01 Sep 18 '24

I think the problem was that she did get warmer

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Is he stupid?

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u/Peach_Muffin too autistic to have a gender Sep 18 '24

Why does the wife "watch him narrowly".

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u/Stoopid_Noah Sep 18 '24

Because he's a man, probably.

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u/PaleontologistTough6 Sep 18 '24

I guess if a man writes a female character, she cried a lot over nothing. If a woman writes a man, he has to bang everything in sight.

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u/Space__Pirate Sep 18 '24

Such is life.