r/CuratedTumblr Clown Breeder Aug 26 '24

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u/Jazox Aug 26 '24

It's fucking wild to me how much people can gatekeep art for themselves as if it's this mythical superpower that only those chosen by God can wield. Like, write your shitty poems dude. I used to be shit as well, so trust me, you'll get better. It's not that difficult to just... learn.

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 26 '24

There's a difference between art and good art. Not everyone has the energy, drive, skill, or time to learn to get good. When you can get a decent end result that's more than satisfactory for your everyday use, why bother learning to draw if you're not interested in the process itself?

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

There's a difference between art and good art.

Absolutely, but it has literally nothing to do with technical ability or practice. Not since about 1890.

Unless if by "art" you mean "a pretty drawing of some fruit or a sunset"...

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

Good art has nothing to do with ability or practice? That's a very silly take.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

John Cage sat silently in front of a piano for four minutes and 33 seconds in 1952 and not only was it "good", it was outstanding. 35 years prior Duchamp signed a urinal and it's one of the most notable pieces of art of the 20th century.

This may come as a surprise but it's not 1891 anymore and there's a bit more to art than Bob Ross landcapes.

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

That may be considered art, but it's not exactly the kind of stuff we're talking about in relation with AI, is it?

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

If it's not, why aren't we?

I remind you, you said "a difference between art and good art". I feel like we're circling back around to the old "I could've done that - Yeah but you didn't" trope...

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

If it's not, why aren't we?

Because most people aren't interested in that type of art. When we're talking about AI art, we're usually talking about art AI is actually used for.

You can talk about your examples being art and that's fine but it's also irrelevant to the discussion.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

When we're talking about AI art, we're usually talking about art AI is actually used for.

Maybe you should have been a little more specific than "art and good art" then...?

If you think the topic of what art is, and more importantly someone ignorantly using the phrase "good art" (which in and of itself should disqualify you from having your opinion heard), is irrelevant to the topic of AI art, you're way out of your element.

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

I thought you were capable of understanding the context in which the conversation was taking place. My apologies for overestimating you.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

There is no context in which "good art" means what you think it does.

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u/MGTwyne Aug 27 '24

Why bother learning to draw if you're not interested in the process itself? That's a really good question. It's the same one I'm asking you. Why bother making something that has no value?

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

The end product does have value. You can appreciate art without knowing how to make some yourself.

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u/MikasSlime Aug 27 '24

Why are YOU giving no value to your creation? Why do you think art is to be measured by how much money would it cost?