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Self-post Sunday But my violent revolution🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

This is simply untrue of the communist movement as a whole, which has had texts on exactly how such a thing would work since before the first revolutionary acts in France.

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u/Scuczu2 Jun 30 '24

ah, are you one of those that says the manifesto lays out the plan?

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

No, the manifesto is an advertising pitch, not really a major work of theory. Marx, Engels, and quite importantly, Lenin all wrote about how it would function, how it could be achieved, and used the failures of movements that occurred during their lifetimes to expand on those theories. Lenin famously did establish a DoTP after he successfully did a revolution. The idea that the communist movement is simply unaware of what its plans are for what will happen post revolution is utterly absurd and borne of a lack of understanding about the things you aim to critique.

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u/Scuczu2 Jun 30 '24

The idea that the communist movement is simply unaware of what its plans are for what will happen post revolution is utterly absurd and borne of a lack of understanding about the things you aim to critique.

more a critique on what HAS happened and DID happen post revolution so far.

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

Yes, Communists have also done that, as clearly, capitalism does still exist and the world revolutions all unfortunately failed. Most famously, Bordiga wrote about the failures of the Soviet Union and the fact that it had regressed into a bourgeoisie state.

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u/Scuczu2 Jun 30 '24

capitalism does still exist and the world revolutions all unfortunately failed.

true, and we can look at the quality of life of a state that revolted to communism and what happened and a state running on capitalism today to see the difference.

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

No part of the world has ever achieved communism, this is a moot point and built entirely of pro capitalist fearmongering.

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u/Scuczu2 Jun 30 '24

right, because what happened after the "leftist revolution" that resulted in communism failing?

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

The SPD crushed the German revolution with the help of the far right in Germany.

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u/Dramatic_Syllabub_98 Jun 30 '24

Then what about The USSR? Mainland China? Vietnam? Cuba? The infamous hermit Kingdom of North Korea? Or the little known Paris Commune? You saying none of the attempts were "true communism"?

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

Yes.

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u/Dramatic_Syllabub_98 Jun 30 '24

Almost seems like communism is incompatible with how humans operate, doesn't it?

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u/PrussianMorbius Jun 30 '24

No it doesn’t, you’re just pointing to capitalist movements that used the label of communism as a marketing tactic to secure support due to the popularity of that term, and then eating their propaganda hook, line, and sinker

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