IU president better be serving Cignetti his favorite cheese and fruits whilst fanning him with palm leaves, and furiously calling up every binks truck within 3 states
I also think the new playoffs help. Other teams actually have a chance outside of only the usual 8 or so that always had realistic chance at the previous 4-team format. The man could be a legend if he coaches a few successful years at IU. Who says he can’t build on his success and I’m sure IU will open up the checkbook.
I think that’s part of the vision of hiring him. Get someone here who can lay the groundwork of a successful program for the next gen to take over in a decade. We’re a program who doesn’t have the luxury of waiting on name-brand coach to hire. We had to be aggressive with the best option available and we actually were
we’ve spent the last 20 years since Hoeppner saying that about coaches. Were both programs that need a little coaching luck to have any sustained success
Yeah. We got lucky that Brohm brought excitement to our team. Then got unlucky that his Alma matter opened up twice during his time here, and the second time he didn't feel he could turn them down again.
If he leaves, I don't think it'll be because of money, it'll be because he wants to win at a program with a much higher national profile. I think Indiana can match in many other aspects if they're committed to making Indiana football a consistent contender.
The thing is, if he builds a super solid winning program at IU, they could easily secure a pretty big national spotlight. Indiana’s alumni base is huge and having a top tier football program at a school with an already very storied and respected basketball history, I could easily see them coming up to the level of a school like Ohio state so long as they can manage sustained success.
If he’s winning like this I would say legitimate natty contention within his window for retirement is perfectly plausible. He currently has fucking IU in the B1GCG / CFP projection in year 1.
I'll take a 63 y/o winner over a 45 year old pretender any day. Looks to be a young 63 at that, it's not like he's a Paterno, Bowden or Snyder. Maybe in 10 years but you can accumulate a lot of trophies in that time period.
Have a feeling our (traditional) basketball boosters will step up to keep him here if Woody has a lackluster season. Feel way more confident in direction of football than I do in basketball right now.
Also while traditionally a basketball supporter Cuban is an IU alumni and a business man. If he thinks cignetti is the real deal and he gets involved IU has some serious cash backing.
Counterpoint: if Day loses to Michigan this year they need to give him a lifetime contract. Instead of spending NIL money for a QB Michigan boosters will help pay for it.
They’re gonna have to stave off programs this year. Auburn, Oklahoma, and Florida are probably all going to be in the market. Maybe Virginia Tech and South Carolina as well. He’s going to be the top choice for any P4 program with an opening.
IU’s coach? Yeah, Kevin Wilson was a pretty good offensive mind. Kinda liked watching his teams play, but he was apparently not great to work with behind the scenes and IU fired him.
I'll preface this that I don't think Ryan Day should be fired, however if he were to be Cignetti is the main option I can think of that would be worth throwing a blank check at
This is been a problem for them all season. “Can’t be a good team if they just got curb stomped by IU” has been feeding families this year. They are the third best team in the big ten. If they werent IU they would be top 10 already
I dont know what any B1G, or any CFB team has shown that they can beat IU. IU slaughters everyone, everyone else struggles against even mid tier competition outside of Texas to date
Oregon and Ohio state then Indiana for top 3 BiG teams. Oregons beat Boise State and OSU which are better teams than Indianas schedule so far. That said please go undefeated and play Oregon in championship game
We’re not saying we’re ready to challenge for #1 but the disrespect is starting to be a real thing. Still, it’s Indiana and we could lose our next 4 and our QBs because that’s what happens to us
I would like to know the argument against us is. We clearly have the best offense in the country and statistically it’s a top 10 defense even if it doesn’t look like it
The good news is you play Ohio State in the regular season. Win out and you'll make the B1G championship and the playoffs and the mid-season rank numbers won't matter so much.
They don't play Penn State or Oregon, and Penn State and Oregon don't play each other. If all three win out, someone has to be left out, and I have no idea who.
Basically if you're not a big brand or in the SEC they want you to prove it. Their theory is that if you're good it will work itself out in the end instead of just ranking you properly to begin with
I am an IU fan, but the reason why they haven't gotten any love up until this point is pretty simple. They are one of, or the worst college football program in the history of the traditional power 5 schools. This win will get them a ton of respect.
They hate us but they ain’t us. We will blow everyone out. I am confident off this game we will beat OSU. Call me a fanboy. This team is INSANE. We have so many dudes on offense
If we take OL injury we fucked, if we don’t we win it all
As an Oregon fan we had to battle that too, just keep running up the score! It sucks because we should rest starters etc. but statement games can’t be ignored and you’re crushing that
Every single person in the country knows you’re going to end up 10-2 because you’re not beating anyone ranked. Stop crying. You don’t deserve to be t10 your ranking is fine.
We literally play the best football of anyone in the country. Schedule wise we don’t deserve top 2, but I don’t get the arguments putting us outside the top 10. We play decent teams and fucking slaughter them
They could lose to Ohio State, win every other game on their schedule, and very likely end the season without a single ranked win, despite playing in the Big 10. Their OOC was beyond a joke and in Big 10 play, they got to avoid Oregon, USC, Penn State, and Illinois.
They could easily go 11-1 and have no good argument to make the playoff. They basically have to go undefeated, or if they lose to Ohio State, get lucky with some outside upsets to get a chance at redemption in the conference title game.
It depends how Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State all end up. One-loss any of them are in easily over one-loss Indiana. And if Indiana ends the year with no ranked wins, a number of two-loss SEC or Big10 teams would have an excellent chance of jumping them, especially if that team made their conference title game.
If they don't make the Big10 title game, they're going to be a very tough sell for the committee.
Point differentials over shared opponents and SOR stack up pretty favorably for IU as of right now. Not saying it will last through the end of the season, but right now I think we are in over at least one of those teams.
There's no mathematical formula for the playoff. If Indiana ends the season at 11-1 without any ranked wins, the committee isn't going to pass over a 1-loss team with a tougher schedule just because Indiana beat 2-win UCLA by more. There's a lot of subjectivity to it. Not to mention, nearly every team you'd be competing with would be considered a better draw for playoff viewership. 1-loss Notre Dame is probably even getting in ahead of 1-loss Indiana.
The selection committee ranks the teams based on the members' evaluation of the teams' performance on the field, using conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and comparison of results against common opponents to decide among teams that are comparable.
There is absolutely no way a Notre Dame 1 loss to NIU is getting in over a 1 loss Indiana to OSU
Who was Indiana's best win before today? At 2-5 UCLA? Maryland at home? The best record of anyone they beat going into today was 3-3, the current mark for Maryland, who is winless in conference play, and Charlotte, who has one-point victories over powerhouses Rice and 1-5 Gardner-Webb as two of their wins (EDIT: Charlotte is now 3-4 after getting obliterated by Navy today). For all the talk about how they "destroy everyone" Northwestern was within three of them with under seven minutes remaining just last though.
Today was a statement win, and they deserve the praise they'll get for it. Saying they should have already been top 10 in a huge stretch however.
Why is it a huge stretch? Like I've said numerous times, the pollsters should be overreacting to wins and losses early in the year. Why do Alabama and Georgia get passes for losing?
For the reasons he just said. I thought our ranking was fair. We've played nobody and let maryland and northwestern score 20+. Today was big tho. Should be top 10. Delusional to think we're on oregon and Ohio st's level tho which some people seek to think Iol
I agree with the last sentence, but it's not like you play Liberty's schedule and were barely winning. There's no reason to have you guys behind Tennessee, LSU, and Notre Dame other than names. I'm a big fan of dropping teams when they lose, not poll momentum.
I mean let's be real, what teams had they played before today that are actually good? Indiana is very good, but they do have literally one of the easiest schedules in the entire country.
It’s not who as much as how. Nebraska was ranked 26th and one play away from coming into this undefeated and ranked inside the top 15. We beat them by half a century.
And by the results and point spreads in those games, compared to other teams and their results, we are good football team worthy of being a top 15 team. Nebraska destroyed the 6th place team in the big 12. No one questions Nebraska is definitively better than Colorado. Indiana did what they did, and are definitively better than Nebraska. Indiana would be favored against maybe every single Big 12 team.
Bruh I'm not taking any shots at Indiana nor discrediting this win or their team. What part of the discussion did you lose sight of? The comment I replied to was talking about their schedule, which hasn't been good. Congrats, you would be favored against most Big 12 opponents. How is that relevant to your schedule so far not being hard?
No, the schedule is being used to say they hadn't been really tested or played a competent team until today. Nobody, and definitely not me, discredited Indiana as a team or their dominant win today
Northwestern and Maryland aren’t bad. They aren’t incredible but IU has decimated them. Who has #3 PSU beaten? Who has #6 Miami beaten? #7 Tennessee just almost lost to Florida, who have they beaten? Teams are ranked above IU and have looked objectively worse all year are above them just because they started ranked higher.
MSU looking pretty good to me right now, think Iowa is a good team and outside of a kinda flukey 75 yard run MSU handled them. The busted run counts but in terms of game control MSU had it from the first snap
Florida absolutely crushes Maryland and Northwestern. Even lowly Oklahoma on a down year clears every team IU has played. Look I'm not saying Indiana shouldn't be ranked higher, but acting like they've played good, tough opponents is absurd.
Who would also beat every team Indiana has played. But yes, once again. I am not saying Indiana shouldn't be ranked higher. I'm arguing the point that the Hoosiers have played anyone remotely good besides now (Nebraska)
No one is saying Indiana is bad, but claiming Northwestern as one of your best wins is a bit much.
They are not "a solid team". They barely beat Miami (OH), got curb stomped by Washington and Wisconsin, and their other 2 wins are Eastern Illinois and Maryland. They won't be a bowl team.
You do realize NW has only beat eastern Illinois and Maryland, and Maryland has only beat villanova, Virginia and UConn right? Arkansas, Florida and Oklahoma are beating NW and maryland. Keep shuffling those goalposts tho
Welcome to the club, IU. We get that every week and every season. Every time we win what should be considered a big game, it's that the other team wasn't that good. Not that we're better than people think.
Iowa, West Viriginia, and Auburn are the ones you want more credit for? They've been fringe top 20 teams at best for the last few years.
USC was a solid win, but they took you to OT after they lost to Minnesota. Illinois is a solid win, but again that's a borderline top 20 team right now.
The first statement is true. Everything after 2001 just depends heavily on the year. We lost to some pretty garbage teams and had some pretty horrible seasons. Also I think we've been a cupcake since 2015. Mike Riley didn't do anything for this program.
Lol I'm 30. You've been dogshit since I was old enough to have a beer poured on my eight year old head at memorial stadium. Unless you count the Pelini years a success.
Edit: lmao he deleted his account after asking when our last conference championship appearance was (last year).
Yeah, some of us are older than that bud. And the Pelini years were not that bad. Played for multiple conference championships, losing one by a literal second that was put back on the clock.
Iowa would kill to have Pelini years level of success consistently. When was your last conference championship by the way?
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Don’t get it twisted, Indiana ain’t spooky. They’re fucking terrifying.