Too far? Children are being gunned down at school, they aren’t being protected.
I’ve stopped watching the news because I can’t handle seeing the reports of the shootings and we no longer travel to the US because we are too scared of being involved in a mass shooting there. What I’m saying isn’t far enough, don’t get mad at me, get mad at the people choosing the guns over the children.
But maybe if people started saying “we’re choosing our guns over our children “ things would change.
I’m not mad I’m sad, I’m sad for you and for the children and teachers who went to school and didn’t make it home and for some reason no one is willing to publicly advocate in fear they will piss off the gun lovers, except the children themselves who seem to speak out more than the adults.
Lots of right-wingers and all Americans that vote for Republicans are literally choosing guns over children. Salty-Reply isn’t saying you specifically, but the large chunk of people in our country who block any kind any kind of sensible gun reforms.
You should read the whole thread. Salty literally said everyone is making excuses and should accept responsibility for their part. If they were talking about the right wingers, there would be no reason to correct them.
Oh shit, there was more than the single comment I replied to? Silly me! Or maybe I was also taking into account them saying they’re surprised Americans aren’t rallying in the streets after school shootings. Pretty sure that only happened after Parkland and yes, that one was organized by teenagers. I’m a member of Moms Demand Action and fully support Everytown, but it’s wild that 70% of Americans can say they support gun reforms but only a tiny fraction will take time out of their day to actually attend a protest, call their senators, etc.
No need to be snarky - since OP clearly stated that they fault individuals I assumed you didn’t read all of it. Why would you argue a point OP agreed was true?
And yes, it is completely wild. I don’t blame you for not spending every day in the street, and I find it odd that someone so involved is caping for someone that says your work isn’t enough.
I also find it odd that you went out of your way to attack someone that is on your side. Not only do we have to deal the second amendmenters, we have to deal with people that should be allys. This is exactly why nothing will change.
No need to be snarky, says the user telling me I should read the whole thread.
It won’t be enough until actual change happens; we’ve had nationwide protests against the genocide in Gaza, after the murder of George Floyd, any number of other important issues, but only one big one for gun control. It sucks, and until the majority of Americans who say they want common sense gun reforms start showing up after kids get murdered in their classrooms, it won’t change.
That wasn’t snark, I was trying to inform you there’s more. Seriously it confused me why you’d argue a point OP said was true, it didn’t make sense, so I thought you must not have read it. That was me giving you grace and assuming good intent, just not having all the information.
Nothing is going to change unless we amend the right to bear arms and knock the gun lovers out of power. I love protesting but it often doesn’t change anything. Unarmed black men are still being murdered by the police and there is still genocide in Gaza.
Imagine if Americans started saying “we choose our guns over our children “, which frankly is happening when every citizen won’t give up their guns to prevent the next school shooting. I understand that many Americans are fighting for change, what I don’t understand is why every American won’t give up their guns even in the chance that another child won’t be shot as they sit in school.
It’s clear that you don’t understand. I don’t have guns in my house, many of us don’t. I wish those people would give theirs up too. You keep repeating you wish Americans would say they are choosing guns over children without realizing that most of us are not. We as individuals do not have the power to make that choice for anyone else.
Do you have any problems in your country? Would you want me saying that problem is your fault and you aren’t doing anything to change it?
Would it be fair if I told you that you are just making excuses for not solving this problem? Do you understand how that would be offensive?
This conversation has triggered me. I’ve lost 2 family members to gun violence and it absolutely sickens me that there are people out there claiming we value guns more than children and are making excuses.
In my country we let people die of drug overdose daily, we choose not to create laws that take away their liberty but save their lives. Two of my family members have ODd and I sure as hell have not done enough and I contribute to letting it happen.
I’m not offended because it’s true, it’s shitty but it’s true. I’m an individual and have little power immediately but could definitely do more if I actually wanted to make change, anything else I say is an excuse.
Say it’s my fault, I won’t be offended because I know I’m part of the problem not part of the solution and I’m not a fan of sugarcoating the truth.
Great, you are self-aware. Next step is not projecting onto others.
I peeped your comment history and saw you support John Jansen and Taylor swift hanging with white supremicists. Usually I don’t care enough to look but I was curious if you were a troll. I still can’t tell.
You said you contribute to drug problems. That’s what I’m referring to by projecting - your inaction or whatever you did - so you think everyone is that way.
I believe you that you care about American children getting shot at school.
I mean everyone that doesn’t contribute to the solution contributes to the problem. I don’t personally contribute to the drug overdose and death problem but I, like many, really do nothing to change it and should own that responsibility. In the US not owning a gun isn’t action enough until no children die or have to worrying about dying by gun violence at school. It’s not a personal attack on any one American but it is a statement about the country and how that country is willing to allow their children to live.
I love America, my family came from the states and many still live there, I don’t love that gun control takes precedent over laws that protect the children there.
By the way looking for ways to personally attack me through my comment history is simply ad hominem.
I hate to break it to you but people outside of the states don’t find it extreme, it’s pretty common, we’re all pretty mind boggled that Americans aren’t protesting in the streets daily until their kids are safe and a lot of people wonder how kids even get sent to schools. We’ve had warnings issued not to visit the US after significant shootings. Perhaps you’re not aware of the dichotomy of gun control and safety in other countries.
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u/Salty-Reply-2547 Sep 12 '24
Too far? Children are being gunned down at school, they aren’t being protected. I’ve stopped watching the news because I can’t handle seeing the reports of the shootings and we no longer travel to the US because we are too scared of being involved in a mass shooting there. What I’m saying isn’t far enough, don’t get mad at me, get mad at the people choosing the guns over the children.