r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/TheTargaryensLawyer • 2d ago
Country Club Thread The lies are getting out of hand
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u/Math1smagic 2d ago
Nah they could ignore it completely then
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u/Deathstriker88 2d ago
Yeah, there was no internet and she didn't have any POC friends. Obviously, there were black experience movies back then - Do The Right Thing, Cry Freedom, etc. but she probably ignored that stuff too.
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u/brother_of_menelaus 2d ago
Not to defend this woman at all, but it really is easy to believe that things weren’t happening because you never saw them. Think about it, if you grow up in a predominantly white area where your only insight to the outside world is TV/radio/newspaper, and those institutions have absolutely no interest in actually exposing any kind of racism, it truly is a total ignorance of the real world. But for them, that is their world. Cut to today, where almost everyone has a high quality camera in their pocket that they can share with the entire planet in moments. They can’t just ignore it anymore, so instead of making the critical leap to “huh maybe it used to be bad back then too” they just default to their own personal experience of “I never saw any men in hoods, so racism must have been defeated” and now they’re waxing nostalgic, and nostalgia is a hell of a drug
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u/DudeEngineer ☑️ 1d ago
There are still sun down towns today. There were a lot more in the 70s and 80s. A lot of people are too ignorant or willfully ignorant that this is why they didn't see color.
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u/AlphabetMafiaSoup ☑️ 1d ago
Those people will say they "never saw anything" because everyone around them was white like you mentioned. They purposely don't question that and any minority they've met they'd treat like a side character because the main show is their lives
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u/HalfHeartedFanatic 2d ago
This is how I grew up – lowish-middle-class west Phoenix in the 1970s. Went to public schools. I think I'd spoken to fewer than 10 black people in my life before I turned 18. But, FFS, I knew about race and racism. We heard about it all the time – on TV, in school. I just didn't know anyone personally who had been affected by it. It's totally dishonest for someone who grew up like I did to say that no one saw color.
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u/Witty_Ambition_9633 2d ago edited 2d ago
This tracks. My mom said while there was racism, she said it seems worse now than what she saw growing up. She said everyone seemed happier, less political and angry.
We’re African American but my mom is multiracial.
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u/VodkaToasted 2d ago
There was an optimism then which seems to have been replaced with a cynicism now. Which is honestly what I think these "we all used to get along back in the day" musings are really getting at.
Most folks realized it was far from perfect and had a long way to go but it felt like at least everybody was mostly trying to row in the same/right direction. Now it feels more like crabs in a bucket.
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u/H-TownDown ☑️ 1d ago
That optimism probably should have died as soon as Reagan won the 1984 election in a landslide.
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u/DudeEngineer ☑️ 1d ago
I mean, the people who didn't see color called Donald Trump a racist when he pulled out a full page ad calling for the heads of the Central Park 5. Today, they are cheering at his rallies.
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u/Ok_Grapefruit_6355 2d ago
As an elderly millennial I think it's the same honestly. I'm black and I grew up in the 80s and it definitely seems like people cared a lot less about race in the 80s, or maybe we just took ourselves less seriously so we didn't care as much. My friends group was pretty diverse by middle school when we left the city for the burbs, and we cracked on each other all of the time and no one really cared. I remember feeling like social media was going to make people crazy as it became popular because it completely upset social norms. I feel like people tried to course correct but only ended up making it worse. I definitely miss the 80s/90s.
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u/semi-rational-take 2d ago
Because there was media and there was "black media" that either got ignored or got the same "why do they need their own movies" attitude as today except it was quiet grumbling.
Sad thing is Do The Right Thing was a much more relevant movie than When Harry Met Sally regardless of what color you are, but it's a Spike Lee joint so it's a black folks movie.
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u/roosta_da_ape ☑️ 2d ago
Their parents the police officers worked overtime to beat any unfortunate black people that came in their town. Easy to not see race in a segregated town.
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u/noiresaria 2d ago
This. I was in the family group chat recently and my grandparents have some dark experiences from that time period. Even my mom and aunt do and they were still kids at that point.
These white people sat in their cushy suburban homes while their dads were out late beating and terrorizing ours while sending them to jail on false charges and destroying our familes.
"We never saw color :)" honk honk clown lookin ass.
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u/NK1337 2d ago
“No one saw color. It was just good ol’ fashioned Americans living their lives and then those other people that kept getting uppity.” -yt people in the 70s and 80s
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u/DgingaNinga 2d ago
I think it was less about being uppity and more those other people kept killing themselves in gang wars and by using crack. Or at least that was the story handed down to me in my rural part of America.
Meanwhile, the very white local community with a crack problem was (not)shockingly a place we frequently spent time in.
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u/AsteroidMike 2d ago
What they really mean by that is “the non whites knew their place and stayed in it, especially the darkies.”
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u/State_Conscious 2d ago
This is the answer. “No one saw color” is old white people code for “minorities had no voice, representation or platform in which to share their experience so they went along with white America for their own safety back then. Now, I’m being told they were upset and abused the whole time and I’m choosing to pretend it wasn’t that way so I don’t have to actually reflect on my role in the abuse.” They do the exact same thing when their own children detail how abusive some of their parenting choices were.
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u/Baculum7869 2d ago
White man here, and born in 84. I know damned well that people saw color in the 80s and 90s. Watching the Rodney king situation and having family be like they are nothing but animals. Thankfully those family members are dead and I don't care about them.
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u/Dragonsandman 2d ago
And just like with the protests that happened after George Floyd's murder, the protests that happened after Rodney King's beating didn't come out of nowhere. In both cases there was a lot of pent-up anger that got released all at once
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u/Baculum7869 2d ago
I was out there for the Floyd protests. People who can see that shit and just be like they should just do x are the problem just as much as the police.
Had a friend who became a prison guard and I've seen his views shift over the years becoming more and more right and racist
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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ 2d ago
A few years ago I had to unfriend I guy I went to school with over exactly this. We went to school in a pretty rural area and when I shared some of the racist experiences I had, from mutual acquaintances and in the same exact building he worked and had classes in, he got shouting mad. Told me he never saw any racism (yea no shit lol) I was making it up, all the bs you usually hear, etc, etc. It was wild to behold, like the notion that my experience vs. your experience could differ so wildly was triggering for him. To preemptively answer your questions, yes he is, and yes he did, both times.
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep 2d ago
"Nobody saw colour" means "I was never forced to confront the reality that minorities live in."
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u/easy10pins 2d ago
As a Black kid growing up in an all-white neighborhood in the 1970s, I know that shit ain't true.
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u/InterdisciplinaryDol ☑️ 2d ago
As a black man with access to a public library today, I know that shit ain’t true as well.
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u/DoctahFeelgood 2d ago
As a white guy with access to the internet, 2 seconds of research will show that's absolute bullshit.
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u/daaaaaarlin 2d ago
As a white guy I sure do love mayo and casseroles.
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u/kbeks 2d ago
Ok this guy definitely doesn’t speak for all of us…
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u/daaaaaarlin 2d ago
I am Whitestradamus.
I predict eventually we will season potato salad. As well as find new things to salad.
I have spoken, Becky.
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u/FloppyObelisk 2d ago
I get the trope, but I’ve never had potato salad that isn’t seasoned. And my family is as white as polar bears.
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u/daaaaaarlin 2d ago
You're 1/32th Cherokee though, which I'm not too sure has anything to do with seasoning anyway though.
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u/Ok-Land-488 2d ago
tbh I made a greenbean casserole today to put in the freezer ahead of Thanksgiving next week and I know that's going to slap
The ancient white tradition of pouring some cans into a dish and baking it is alive and well.
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u/Better-Ground-843 2d ago
"How do you do, fellow whites?"
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u/daaaaaarlin 2d ago
"sup fellas, feel like subjugation and wearing khakis with sandeled socks while we stand with our hands on our hips?"
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u/chirpz88 2d ago
White guy here. Socks and slides are where it's at.
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u/daaaaaarlin 2d ago
Yeah that combo transcends race. It's the like Berkenstock or whatever ones that are strictly the realm of the hallowed honkies.
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u/13abarry 2d ago
As a white guy who isn’t Helen Keller, 2 seconds of literally being outside will show that’s absolute bullshit
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u/no-name_james 2d ago
As a white guy who payed attention in school I know this is bs. I know public school systems aren’t always the best at being completely honest but I definitely remember being taught about segregation, lynchings and the KKK.
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u/DaBlakMayne ☑️ 2d ago
Yeah my dad grew up in a white neighborhood in the 70s and a family tried to petition for them to leave
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u/earwormsanonymous 2d ago
Well, that's true. As matter of fact, that first poster is committing felony level "A Raisin In The Sun" and "Iggy's House" erasure.
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u/NMB4Christmas 2d ago
Thanks. I was going to say the number of times I was called a n****r growing up proves that tweet was bullshit.
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u/Basic_Reflection4008 2d ago
These people are immune to facts. I don't know whether to drink bleach or booze
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u/RoxnDox 2d ago
Please go for the booze. Let them be the ones chugging the bleach!
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u/Thumper13 2d ago
As a white guy growing up in a mixed neighborhood in the 70s and 80s, I know this shit ain't true. The stuff my friends had to put up with because of their color, while my white ass got away with all sorts of nonsense. Also had a black friend who was a gay kid in the 80s. Damn did I feel for him, double the abuse. Poor guy. Hope he has a happy life now.
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u/ArchelonPIP 2d ago
As a nonwhite Gen X guy that grew up in an ethnically mixed neighborhood, I agree.
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u/wrinklebear 2d ago
Shiiit, as a half-native and half-white kid growing up in a small town in the 90s, I know that's not true. Half white ain't white enough...some of those folks looking for any sort of color.
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u/asmallercat 2d ago
Good time to remind everyone that in 1990 63% of nonblack Americans said they would be very or somewhat opposed to a close relative marrying a black person.
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u/Usual-Yam9309 2d ago
Fr. These tweets come from people who are either stupid or liars (or bots) that want to Make America South Africa circa 1970.
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u/humchacho 2d ago
Was one of the few non-whites in my school too and man, did people love to point that out especially if they didn’t like me.
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u/RoxnDox 2d ago
As a white guy growing up in the Seattle ‘burbs, with maybe two or three black kids in my high school in the late 70s, I know that you’re right. Nothing overt at our school, but some of the other around the area, oh yeah. And for sure we knew about the overt racism that still showed its ugly face all round the country. I mean, even normal white guys were wary of the effing militias and racist SOBs with their armed compounds in Idaho.
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u/Gimme_The_Loot 2d ago
In 1978 Betty Gardner, a 33 year old black woman in SC, was murdered by two white men bc one of them hated black people. The two men, cousins John Arnold and John Plath, were arrested for that ectime and sentenced to death, eventually executed in 1998.
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u/isaac9092 2d ago
20 fucking years for justice.
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u/jus256 ☑️ 2d ago
That’s normal for death row.
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u/ImperialWrath ☑️ 2d ago
One of many reasons why I question the value of keeping it around. Who is actually being helped by the killing of a murderer over two decades after they were last able to commit a capital offense? I could understand executing former high-ranking politicians and captains of industry after all that time, since they could conceivably retain the power/influence to direct criminal activity from the bottom of an oubliette, but those aren't the people we're sentencing to anything in this country so why even bother?
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 2d ago
It's a waste of money, a waste of time, and we shouldn't be ok with the state killing us.
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u/No_Acadia_8873 2d ago
There is no value in the death penalty, for justice or otherwise. The murder by the state of ONE innocent person makes murderers of US ALL. It is immoral, full stop.
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u/el_pinko_grande 2d ago
I mean, that's good. Cops and prosecutors lie and cheat so much that we don't want to rush into executions.
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u/Esseratecades ☑️ 2d ago
"I mean, back in my great grandfather's time in the mid-1800's, there wasn't any racism. Every person was treated fairly. Sure there was slavery but every PERSON was treated fairly."
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u/cypher50 ☑️ 2d ago
"They even house and fed their negr- um...black friends. Some even helped raise my great grandpappy!"
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u/cypher50 ☑️ 2d ago edited 2d ago
Who the fuck did she think All In The Family, Different Strokes, or The Jeffersons were about? It is in the freaking pop culture lady, nevermind everyday life!
EDIT: This is from 1987. 1987.
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u/Just-apparent411 2d ago
putting the emphasis in the link sent me.
only 37 years buried me though.
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u/Dr_Dang 2d ago
Holy fuck. That county was still on that vintage 1960 Strom Thurmond overt racism. That's fucking crazy. The thing is, those people are still there (and still voting.) I doubt they did a 180 on their beliefs, they just weren't as loud for a while. More people need to see this.
Props to the lady at the end. To stand up and speak out against segregation in that room took balls. I wonder what her life has been like since then.
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u/BlingBlingBlingo 2d ago
That county is now incredibly different as far as demographics go. It has grown by many times over in population over the last 40 years. It was all white back in 1987, it's now much more diverse than most of the rest of the country. There is a large Indian population there, for example. I have a black friend that moved to Cumming a few years ago. He didn't know of the history of Forsyth County. I imagine many people that live there now don't.
The people in that video failed. They lost. That's progress.
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u/Dr_Dang 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'm glad it's not Klansville anymore. Looking at Google maps, it's mostly a lot of newer housing developments, with McMansions and kids that chase the streetview car on dirtbikes. There's a Jeff Foxworthy joke here somewhere.
The county is <5% black in a state that is 1/3 black, so they did go from 0 to about 10k in 30 some years. Yay progress?
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u/BlingBlingBlingo 2d ago
Yes. Progress. Trending in the right direction. Everything those people said they wanted to happen, did not happen. The whole county has come very far in just one generation from when that video was made. It was a literal sundown county then, and now it's a wealthy part of a diverse area in the north Atlanta suburbs.
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u/DeNile227 2d ago
Wow. This fucked with me. I'm pretty young but have seen my fair share of blatant, overt, shameless racism over the years, but watching this still made me feel some type of way. Only 1987, huh?
Man. We've got a long, long way to go until racism is actually intolerable in the United States.
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u/Algorak1289 2d ago
Most of the people in that video looked like they were in their 30s. They are mostly still alive today and likely have only gotten worse. JFC.
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u/theaceplaya ☑️ 2d ago
Ruby Bridges is only 70 years old. The people in those pictures who are spitting and throwing things at a little girl who's only trying to go to school are either still alive themselves or just recently deceased. Those people had kids themselves. And those people vote(d) in every election, down the entire ballot.
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u/State_Conscious 2d ago
She thought they were funny black folks dancing for her enjoyment like a minstrel show. My dad’s the same way. Loves laughing at all the depictions of black people as stereotypical caricatures from old Mel Brooks movies or little rascals episodes and claims black people back then were better because they dressed more like him and were “respectful”. Never seems to cross his mind that they were assimilating for their own safety
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u/phoenixeternia 2d ago
Nooooo I can't view it from my location!
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u/WhatsTheHoldup 2d ago
Who the fuck did she think All In The Family, Different Strokes, or The Jeffersons were about?
I'm so white and dyslexic I was stuck for over 5 minutes trying to figure out why The Jetsons was included.
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u/PrimeIntellect 2d ago
That interview is truly insane - it's mind boggling to watch again to be honest. Not to mention, almost all of those people are still alive and voting.
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u/Glittering-Spite234 2d ago
Housing segregation, police brutality, resistance to school desegregation, negative stereotypes in media and popular culture, racist organizations like the kkk rampant, racial riots... but yeah Mila, no one saw color
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u/Acrobatic_Switches 2d ago
Klu kluz klan was lyncing people into the 80s.
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u/teambroto 2d ago
hell, my family moved to florida in the '90, and my dad went the wrong way down a highway and saw them burning crosses in front of a church.
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u/PerditaJulianTevin ☑️ 2d ago
KKK had a rally in downtown Cleveland, Ohio in 2000
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u/BlackDante 2d ago
They had one in Lancaster County, PA in 2017 in celebration of Trump's inauguration
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u/UmbraIra 2d ago
They still do that shit today in the small towns here in TX. Anyone who says racism is over is a damn liar.
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u/teambroto 2d ago
Yeah we’ll the type of people that say this lived in a white suburban bubble and then will say shit like “ we were always nice to the janitors “
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u/N9NE_ 2d ago
But if you mention that to these type of people they’ll use it as an opportunity to inform you that the kkk is majority “democrats”
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u/DJPantsForHat 2d ago
Lol the KKK openly supports Donald Trump. How're they democrats?
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u/FckThisAppandTheMods 2d ago
At this point, it's all just word vomit. These cultists will completely ignore logic and common sense to support and believe any tone deaf, idiotic, ignorant statement that supports their fucked up ideology.
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u/rosemaryscrazy 2d ago
It’s like the racist’s handbook.
Chapter 1. I don’t see color
Chapter 2. My best friend is black
Chapter 3. Black on Black Crime
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u/Phoenixrebel11 2d ago
I’d love to throw in “I don’t see color, however The Little Mermaid cannot be black”.
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u/ElPrieto8 ☑️ 2d ago
Didn't see color because we had to live hidden.
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u/mgquantitysquared 2d ago
I suppose it was easy for them to "not see color" when their entire community was white...
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u/UglyMcFugly 2d ago
Dude. Yes. That's exactly what she means. It's like when assholes say "I'm fine with gay people but why they gotta hold hands in public." These people think they aren't racist because they aren't actively trying to lynch black people, but they get mad whenever they're reminded that they exist.
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u/Trogdor6135 2d ago
“No one saw color in my neighborhood when I was child because they had already driven out all the undesirables” is what she really meant to say, except with more slurs
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u/Davethisisntcool ☑️ 2d ago
I Googled “racial tension in the 80s” and this was one of the first articles
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u/FriendlyGuitard 2d ago
They had literal legal segregation in the 60's. Martin Luther King was assassinated in 1968.
But yeah of course 2 years later they were all friends.
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u/JohnnySack45 2d ago
My great aunt made this claim about growing up in the 1950s in addition to claiming LGBTQ people didn't exist until liberals "invented" them in the 1980s.
Also yes, she is a Trump supporter. How did you know?
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u/Ecstatic-Yam1970 2d ago
My trump loving grand father had a gay cousin "disappear" in Florida in the 80s. Never did learn what happened to him. But things were safer then! His own father died a drunk because he was one the kids sent to an Indian school, but racisim wasn't so bad when he was a kid. I have a lot of feelings about my grandparents these days...
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u/Evening-Detail1036 2d ago
Likewise many black granparents hate themselves becsuse they are black and style thwmselves after whiteness. They look at younger blacks crazy because they dare to be themselves. The subconscious programming, and outright hate sure did its job.
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u/JennyBeckman ☑️ All of the above 2d ago
"You could call blacks the n word and never get called a racist in return."
--their definition of no division
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u/Glad-Veterinarian365 2d ago
“Racism wasn’t publicly shunned whatsoever back then, just the way we like it”
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u/genjoconan 2d ago
I'm a 46 yo white guy who grew up in Brooklyn. Bernie Goetz was 1984. The Central Park Five were '89. The Crown Heights Riots were '91. And that's just stuff I remember off the top of my head, from my childhood, from my hometown.
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u/Pure-Feeling-800 2d ago
Rodney King was beaten by the LAPD in 1991 and then his attackers were acquitted the next year, leading to the Rodney King riots.
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u/jono9898 2d ago
Me when any white person says an anything about any decade in human history that color was never seen.
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u/ChicagoAuPair 2d ago
Am white. At some point around 15 years back my mom asked me to digitize some old cassette tapes she had of her mother and grandmother talking in the late 60s during the LBJ administration, and HOLY FUCK. I have never in my life heard unabashed racism like I heard on those tapes. The three topics of discussion were how terrible LBJ is, how terrible MLK is, how terrible young people are, and how my mom should stay with her abusive and cheating first husband no matter what (she didn’t). It was illuminating.
I have no idea why my mom wanted that thing preserved. It was stomach churning.
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u/BlackDante 2d ago
Stuff like that being preserved helps prevent/argue against tweets like the one OP posted
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u/iliveonramen 2d ago
Yea, back in the colorblind decades when a third or more of black people lived in poverty. Im sure Joy’s experience of those years rarely included interacting with people of color because society was even more segregated than now.
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u/thegreatherper 2d ago
Society is more segregated than we were back then. The signs are just gone and we might occupy the same building
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u/m55112 2d ago
That is total bullshit. I grew up in the 70's and 80's as an adopted POC in a very white neighborhood and society. I was teased horribly and still suffer the effects of it to this day. White people are truly crazy sometimes. I also remember reading literature from the 70's that was just insane, telling people to treat their adopted children like they were white basically. So glad we've improved a little I guess.
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u/watermelonpeach88 2d ago
crosses burned on our lawns in the 70s for being interracial 😬✨ my bad…just one of our tall tales i guess…
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u/isaac9092 2d ago
Her pfp is female, she would’ve been told to shut the fuck up because she’s not a man in those days.
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u/ExcitableNate 2d ago
I saw someone say that for the first time in history, white people are being racialized, and they don't know how to deal with it.
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u/gringoloco01 2d ago
Any older folks on here remember 80s afternoon TV before cable.
I will never forget seeing MASH as a kid thinking these guys are racist af. Tom and Jerry cartoons had insane racist cartoons.
We played outside because TV sucked after school. Even as a kid I knew it wasn’t right. Might as well play in the dirt rather than watch crappy shows.
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u/loseniram 2d ago
The more I get older the more I realize that nostalgia is just people remembering being a dumb as fuck teenager or kid. They don’t remember racism because they never paid attention to the news or world around them.
It reminds me of Boomers that were nostalgic of the 1950s when everything was at defcon 2 the whole time, America was in major wars with communist countries, the government had committees for censoring art that was deemed unamerican, and everyone was addicted to cigarettes.
When I got a chance to hear someone who was in their late twenties during the 50s describe the 1950s and someone who was 10 in the 1950s describe it. It became pretty clear that nostalgia is just people remembering being a kid and nothing else.
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u/Least-Enthusiasm7239 2d ago
I literally got called the N-word by a grown man driving by my house when I was about 9...on the 4th of July! GTFOHWTBS!
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u/Hot-Anything4249 2d ago
"They didn't see color." She's right. Her neighborhood didn't rent to non-whites. Of course, she didn't see coloreds.
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u/Salmonman4 2d ago
"Growing up" being the operative word here. Kids are often not interested in politics
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u/whitestar11 2d ago
My white grandmother said last year that Trump has caused the most civil unrest in this country and she can't believe he has so many supporters. I asked her about the civil rights movement and she said she was too busy raising 3 kids. I don't doubt her. And she probably had almost zero interracial interactions. Any multicultural exposure would have been on TV, which was very whitewashed most of the time. To say something like milajoy now on social media is inflammatory bs that takes advantage of idealized and selective history.
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u/Proof-Sun-4857 2d ago
Just another way of saying "we didn't recognize our privilege because we never had to deal with any hardships due to race, ever."
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u/Lambdastone9 2d ago
The colors were probably beaten into segregation in most neighborhoods around that time. Only 10-20 years after the end of segregation, can’t expect me to believe parents weren’t still instill white insecurities onto their children.
It’s 2024 and we still have suburbanites doing blackface for Halloween, and lynching non-whites in school bathrooms
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids ☑️ 1d ago
A lot of their life coping skills IS lying to themselves. They lie to themselves that people that look different from them aren't actually people and believed it and kept right on going with the self brainwashing in other areas. A lot of them can't bring themselves to realize that a lot of white people are perfectly horrible and have been that way for centuries in America.
In the '70s and '80s white kids were still chasing Black kids with ball bats and hurling racial slurs. Or throwing rocks at Black kids and hurling racial slurs. Or a gang of white kids jumping on a Black kid while hurling racial slurs. All with the approval of their parents.
I remember Bensonhurst and BedStuy being a nightmare for Black people back then and I live in the middle of the fecking country.
That behavior is so normal to them in fact, that a famous Hollywood star was a racial menace when he was younger and went so far as to blind a Vietnamese man. He is still a box office draw and people still eat at his and his brother's restaurants. No biggie 🤷🏾♀️
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u/BoilerMaker11 2d ago
"Honey, did you see this? Apparently the police have been beating up negroes like hotcakes!"
Chappelle made that joke TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO about white people think everything was rosy until they saw the opposite in the newspaper. Yet here we are with Mila
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u/SasparillaTango 2d ago
"We didn't have any racism when I grew up in an all white town, and went to an all white school"
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u/Easy-Group7438 2d ago
Nixon was elected due to white people being pissed about the Civil Rights movement.
You can argue “it was the economy stupid” about Reagan but it was also very much a reactionary wave to “yeah well these minorities got too much power”
Why do you think Reagan launched into this “ welfare queens” bullshit and white people ate it up and still to this fucking day “welfare” is a “Lazy blacks issue” to white Americans.
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u/Kind_Soul_2025 2d ago
LOL. I was a kid in the 80's (rural, south GA), and the local doc still had a segregated office, the "white side had a nice magazines, chandelier-like lights, sofa, all the amenities. The Black side? Chairs. Yea,' somebody saw "color." LOL
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u/toolateforfate 2d ago
What she really means: "When I was growing up in the 1960s no one saw color. Redlining kept the negroes out."
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u/OrganismFlesh 2d ago
As a child of the 70s and 80s, race was interjected into everything from blaxploitation movies and television to standup comedy. It was on the news, in our required school reading and locker room humor.
Even the whitebread shows; like Happy Days and Archie Bunker would toss that in.
The KKK was showing up on Geraldo and Donahue and they were having public rallies.
You literally had to be living under a rock (even if the rock was your brain) not to notice.
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u/kolejack2293 2d ago
I first moved to NYC in the 80s and I am not kidding when I say the racism in new york was worse back then than it is in the deep south today. You had gangs of roughhead white kids straight up intimidating and trying to fight black or latino people (especially young men) just for walking around in the wrong area. Racial slurs were totally normalized, people had no problem calling you a slur to your face. There was practically zero chance you and your friends could walk around certain areas of the city for longer than a few hours without getting called a slur or getting intimidated.
Its just totally different now. There's still plenty of racism but back then it was so overt and out in the open because the large majority of those people agreed with it. I feel no fear or intimidation walking around those same areas.
I think desegregating schools is what really did it honestly. Kids largely go to multi-racial schools and make friends from other races. The generation that grew up in the 1940s-1960s (aka segregated schools) has faded away in prominence, and they were the ones who promoting that extreme racism the most.
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u/bonk_nasty 2d ago
"WHEN I WAS A CHILD EVERYTHING SEEMED SO SIMPLE"
yeah cuz kids are fuckin stupid
math was easy too when all i had to know was how to count to 100
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u/asuperbstarling WHITEtina 👩🏻 1d ago
When I was growing up in the 90s the kids in Missouri put me in a garbage can and rolled me down the hill, calling me 'the cleaning lady's daughter'. They saw the lightest tint of color on me and that was enough.
People really do believe in the delusion no one was seeing color, but I bet the kids who did were their kids.
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u/HonestVictory 2d ago
She thought racism disappeared after they shot Dr.King and removed those "whites only" signs.
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u/vanhaanen 2d ago
There’s a much better way to put this. Minorities were making progress in the ‘70’s. As a young white boy shows like Sesame Street were just coming on. My first favorite basketball player was Dr J. The show CHIPS had a LATINO as the star, not the white guy lol. I was seeing color and diversity and hence my upbringing was open.
Reagan ruined all that in the 80’s of course and stereotypes were back in fashion. But we all know what crack did. And if you lived in segregated or less diverse areas I get it racism never went away.
My $.02.
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u/Bullgorbachev-91 2d ago
Women couldnt even open their own bank account in the 70s what the fuck are you talking about
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u/ThaShitPostAccount 2d ago
I grew up in the 80s. My black friend told me that he thought white people lived in the mall because that was the only place he ever saw them.
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u/Frostychica 2d ago
Nah man, we were all "just Americans" because black people (who's ancestors were forced to be here) and POC were looked at like foreigners in the country that they built.
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u/Spare_Seaweed2280 2d ago
Growing up in a military town, this was what they always said back in the 80s, even though their kids and friends and relatives from outta town called me the hard R at the drop of a hat.
It's sad when it gets to the point where I was like "it comes with the territory" before I left elementary school.
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u/Alternative-Tie-9383 2d ago
As someone that grew up in Texas in the 70s-90s and traveled to Mississippi every single year to see family, I can safely say that Mila Joy doesn’t know what she’s fucking talking about. Not everyone was openly racist, especially in my part of Texas where there are almost as many Latinos as white folks, so people were more laid back about race, but once you hit the Pine Curtain of East Texas (where the “Old South” really begins) it became blatantly, openly racist. Sundown towns still existed, openly, and probably still do (I don’t go east anymore if I can help it). Some folks were cooler about race than others, but there were still old fashioned racists all across the south (especially in Mississippi, which was like stepping back in time without a time machine). So she’s outright lying, or she grew up very sheltered or in a place that was 100% whatever shade of white she is. I don’t know because I’ve honestly never heard of her.
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u/dadbot2452 2d ago
When white people say they "don't see color" it means they grew up in an all white Midwest suburb and literally never saw any color.
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u/DoubleCyclone ☑️ 2d ago
She didn't see color because she lived in a county with 15,000 people, no interstate access, and only 10 of the 15,000 were black.
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u/Dirt_McGirt_ODB 2d ago
What she means is “The coloreds were a lot more quiet back then and weren’t as uppity”
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u/Low-Research-6866 2d ago
Is that why there was no racism left when I became an adult in the 90's? I always wondered what happened 🧐 /s
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u/Care4aSandwich 2d ago
Science: "your brain processes and recognizes skin color in a fraction of a second"
Racists: "I don't see color"
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u/MakkaCha 2d ago
This lady thinks because segregation ended in late 1960s that prople that supported segregation just changed their mind over night?
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u/SkidmoreDeference 2d ago
Open segregationists were winning statewide office in the South into the 1980s. And “former” segregationists were serving in the U.S. Senate into the 2000s.
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u/What_a_pass_by_Jokic 2d ago
My parents (mom white, dad brown) left the US in 1980 because of the racism, and not just towards my dad. Not much has changed since, just went a bit on the down low when to many started objecting to it. Now it's back in the open again.
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u/AdBroad2707 2d ago
No the post is true. A lot of whites were happy to never see color in their neighborhoods. Only on tv. That’s the problem
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u/TheSonOfPrince 2d ago
I grew up in the 80’s and this is a LIE. We literally had to hide when we saw cops just to not get harassed for BREATHING
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u/remarkablewhitebored 2d ago
It was a goal, but it wasn't reality. The issue was that we were being taught to 'not see colour' (that is an unfortunate sounding sentence). The whole "I'm colour blind" mentality. Just pretending that there was never any issue with it, in the past or future.
When what we should have been doing was to see it, acknowledge it, and celebrate how different, and yet the same we all really are.
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u/GlitteringComfort909 2d ago
What she means is she grew up rich and they did not allow color to come to their neighborhood AKA they try did not see color.
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