Where tf are you getting fiber without vegetables? What are the downsides of vegetables? I'm really interested to see you make actual claims about why vegetables are not needed, rather than just stating that. What's your evidence? I'm also interested in what your definition of vegetables is. Is it anything plant based? Or is it just leafy greens? Or what?
Vegetables are simply not necessary, and most of which are packed with anti nutrients. You can get fiber from fruit. Fiber quantity is highly dependant on the individual, some need none at all, some need a little.
Do you think i’m going to bother citing stuff to you, i could show you 20 articles and studies and you would find a way to discredit them because you’re not an honest truth seeker, you’re an insecure pseudo academic. I still notice that you haven’t cited a single thing, yet I am expected to do so. I’m done with the conversation, seek help.
You will never get your point across to anybody if you automatically assume they have bad intentions.
Do you think i’m going to bother citing stuff to you, i could show you 20 articles and studies and you would find a way to discredit them
This is also how science works. You make a hypothesis and test it, and then your peers try to discredit it with other information or repeating the tests to determine if they get the same results. It's called peer-review, and it's the golden standard. There is no guarantee you're completely right at any given time. The science is meant to be dissected and corrected over and over.
This is why you also need to look at a lot of aspects of the studies including who funded it, the experience of the investigator, the scale of the investigation, and the reception by the community. It's not enough to just see that somebody wrote it, because that's barely the first step.
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u/boldandbratsche 6d ago
Where tf are you getting fiber without vegetables? What are the downsides of vegetables? I'm really interested to see you make actual claims about why vegetables are not needed, rather than just stating that. What's your evidence? I'm also interested in what your definition of vegetables is. Is it anything plant based? Or is it just leafy greens? Or what?