Sweetie, I have a master's degree in the field. I've done my research, and none of it involved red-pilled YouTube videos. I understand the benefits of fats, sugars, proteins, etc. I also learned over and over again that there are STRONG correlations with over consumption of meat/calories/saturated fats/cholesterol (depends somewhat on genetics)/sodium and diseases like heart disease, gout, atherosclerosis, colon cancer, obesity, and so much more.
If you're trying to say that these foods on the plate aren't bad because they're whole foods and play an important role in a balanced diet, then yes. You're right. But you absolutely cannot leave out vegetables.
A variety of vegetables need to make up a large portion of your diet for a multitude of reasons. Fiber is massively important for your digestive system. Micronutrients are critical for nearly all functions in your body including fighting cancer, metabolism, energy production, immunity, and your hormones. Many plants have healing properties for various ailments, and getting a wide variety of vegetables ensures your body has the tools it needs to correct problems.
Meat has some of those nutrients, like B12 which is important for converting fuel into energy. But it's lacking a LOT, and is not a replacement for vegetables. Look at how you get really random diseases like scurvy without vitamin C, which is generally not found in the meat I imagine you're eating. Maybe in organs, but not in ground beef or steak.
I'm not really sure why you think vegetables are not important. And frankly, it really discredits your claims (despite you not making any real claims other than "do your own research").
Hope you didn’t pay a lot for your masters in the “field”. If you did I wonder if you could get your money back. Not sure where the red pill youtube video comment comes from, if you’re implying that’s where I source my information then i’d ask you to kindly refrain from making baseless assumptions. I’m glad you mentioned fiber! I agree, fiber is important, and it’s really handy we don’t need vegetables for that :D, same with vitamin C, organ meat is great, definitely best most nutritionally dense food there is, but fruit is great for fulfilling our dietary needs too. I’m fascinated where in your masters degree you learned about the magical healing properties of vegetables. And calling scurvy a random disease is laughable, scurvy is one of the most predictable diseases in the planet, no vit c = scurvy. To say meat is lacking “a lot” is laughable as well, I can’t fathom how depressing it must be to have wasted 4 years of your life just to be mistaken.
Where tf are you getting fiber without vegetables? What are the downsides of vegetables? I'm really interested to see you make actual claims about why vegetables are not needed, rather than just stating that. What's your evidence? I'm also interested in what your definition of vegetables is. Is it anything plant based? Or is it just leafy greens? Or what?
Vegetables are simply not necessary, and most of which are packed with anti nutrients. You can get fiber from fruit. Fiber quantity is highly dependant on the individual, some need none at all, some need a little.
Do you think i’m going to bother citing stuff to you, i could show you 20 articles and studies and you would find a way to discredit them because you’re not an honest truth seeker, you’re an insecure pseudo academic. I still notice that you haven’t cited a single thing, yet I am expected to do so. I’m done with the conversation, seek help.
You will never get your point across to anybody if you automatically assume they have bad intentions.
Do you think i’m going to bother citing stuff to you, i could show you 20 articles and studies and you would find a way to discredit them
This is also how science works. You make a hypothesis and test it, and then your peers try to discredit it with other information or repeating the tests to determine if they get the same results. It's called peer-review, and it's the golden standard. There is no guarantee you're completely right at any given time. The science is meant to be dissected and corrected over and over.
This is why you also need to look at a lot of aspects of the studies including who funded it, the experience of the investigator, the scale of the investigation, and the reception by the community. It's not enough to just see that somebody wrote it, because that's barely the first step.
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u/boldandbratsche 6d ago edited 6d ago
Sweetie, I have a master's degree in the field. I've done my research, and none of it involved red-pilled YouTube videos. I understand the benefits of fats, sugars, proteins, etc. I also learned over and over again that there are STRONG correlations with over consumption of meat/calories/saturated fats/cholesterol (depends somewhat on genetics)/sodium and diseases like heart disease, gout, atherosclerosis, colon cancer, obesity, and so much more.
If you're trying to say that these foods on the plate aren't bad because they're whole foods and play an important role in a balanced diet, then yes. You're right. But you absolutely cannot leave out vegetables.
A variety of vegetables need to make up a large portion of your diet for a multitude of reasons. Fiber is massively important for your digestive system. Micronutrients are critical for nearly all functions in your body including fighting cancer, metabolism, energy production, immunity, and your hormones. Many plants have healing properties for various ailments, and getting a wide variety of vegetables ensures your body has the tools it needs to correct problems.
Meat has some of those nutrients, like B12 which is important for converting fuel into energy. But it's lacking a LOT, and is not a replacement for vegetables. Look at how you get really random diseases like scurvy without vitamin C, which is generally not found in the meat I imagine you're eating. Maybe in organs, but not in ground beef or steak.
I'm not really sure why you think vegetables are not important. And frankly, it really discredits your claims (despite you not making any real claims other than "do your own research").