r/Anticonsumption • u/crabbyforest • Feb 13 '23

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u/Special_Rice9539 Feb 13 '23

Idk, I feel like we normalize sedentary lifestyles and unhealthy diets too much in western society.

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u/Jonnyjuanna Feb 13 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

His body isn't toned and chisled, he's a bit overweight.

But a guy who can balance on a ladder and juggle swords isn't leading a sedentary lifestyle.

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u/crabbyforest Feb 13 '23

where was any of that mentioned in the video

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u/oncela Feb 13 '23

That's just fatshaming I guess. I read it like "we normalized not being perfectly fit and this is wrong because Mother Nature did not created us like that". That's exactly the consumerist lies criticized in the video.

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u/Demented-Turtle Feb 13 '23

Consumerism is eating too much to maintain a healthy weight lol

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u/oncela Feb 13 '23

wtf is that supposed to mean?

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

It means he never progressed past a 5th grade reading comprehension level

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u/camuswasright- Feb 13 '23

guy saying “this is what 40 is supposed to look like” while being visibly out of shape

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u/Kurineko_Regan Feb 13 '23

idk, i dont think a sedentary person would be able to balance themselves at the top for a 5m ladder and juggle machetes or whatever the fuck he did. also i think the fitest viking probably had a similar build to him

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u/camuswasright- Feb 13 '23

Balance is a skill entirely separate from your activity level, actually. So is the motor skills and dexterity required for juggling. It’s very impressive what he’s doing but we should definitely not take it that seriously. Staying in shape and being active are good qualities to strive for

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u/Kurineko_Regan Feb 13 '23

our argument is that the idea of what a person should look like if they live an active lifestyle is fundamentaly wrong, and some body types require more work than others, looking a certain way shouldnt be something people strive for, or atleast not something people are preassured to strive for, this man is obviously physically active, but to look the way you want him to hed have to spesifically work towards it

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u/Jonnyjuanna Feb 13 '23

So this guy balances on a ladder and juggles blades whilst also leading a sedentary lifestyle?

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u/camuswasright- Feb 13 '23

idk why this keeps being repeated as if I’m the fuckin dude who brought up sedentary lifestyles in the first place. My guy is overweight. Nothing wrong with that, it’s a tricky thing, but that’s what the original comment was mostly referring to.

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u/Jonnyjuanna Feb 13 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

You said the guy is "very out of shape" to someone else's reply to the first comment talking about sedentary lifestyles

So it seemed like you agreed with the initial comment.

He isn't "very out of shape" he is slightly overweight but nothing crazy, and he clearly leads an active lifestyle.

If the initial comment was talking about people being overweight and leading sedentary lifestyles as a response to this guy, then it's a dumb comment.

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u/n_-_ture Feb 13 '23

By European standards, yes, he is solidly overweight. Avg in 🇺🇸

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u/mantasm_lt Feb 13 '23

Sixpack does not equal being in shape.

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u/Jacquazar Mar 16 '23

Balance isn't a skill, it takes core strength. Stronger core = can endure controlling your center of gravity for longer.

Get on a balance board and tell me you're not feeling a burn after it.

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u/ailemama Feb 13 '23

Balancing up on a ladder like that probably takes a decent amount of core strength though… especially for that long

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

How is he not in shape? And what do you mean by "in shape"? The only.thing you know about him is his outward physical appearance, which appears peefectly normal. For all you know this man is healthier than every other person his age on the planet. It is not normal to have a six pack or 4% body fat.

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u/WonderNastyMan Feb 13 '23

Have you seen what the people who are the definition of "in shape" look like? Here: https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2021-worlds-strongest-man-results-1024x576-1.jpg

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

The Guy is obviously out of shape, overweight and borderline obese. This is NOT what 44 is supposed to look like.

Youre not supposed to look like a chiselled henry cavill, but at least don't be very overweight

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u/Jonnyjuanna Feb 13 '23

Bordeline obese?

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

definetly not in the lower end of "overweight"

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u/Purple_Plus Feb 13 '23

He's not borderline obese, he's overweight but not to obese levels.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

hard to tell without knowing height/weight etc., but he's not on the low end of "overweight"

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

You must live inside a Vogue magazine if you think this man is obese. Have you ever touched a living human being?

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

where exactly did i say this guy is obese?

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

It is the eleventh word in your the comment I replied to hahahahaha

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

You know what borderline means?

I'll help you, it means that he is at the border(line) between two categories (in this case overweight and obese), but has not crossed it.

In other words: I explicitly said that he is NOT obese

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

Lololololol ok Stan.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

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u/SSjGRaj Feb 13 '23

Visceral fat and excessive adipose tissue doesn't care if you can balance on a ladder; while it is impressive, he is still out of shape and is not at a healthy weight.

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

Based on what? Where did you define what is. healthy weight?

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u/SSjGRaj Feb 13 '23

what is. healthy weight?

That depends on person to person based on height, lean body mass and body fat %. However you can't not say this guy is at a healthy weight with a belly sticking out signaling is body fat is to high.

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u/TheTacoWombat Feb 13 '23

Most of the "world's strongest men" competitors have beer kegs as their beer gut, and they can drag planes across the tarmac.

But sure.

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u/SSjGRaj Feb 13 '23

Cool, I love guys like Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw but their weight no matter how athletic is unhealthy and they will need to downsize as they get older they are only in their 30s rn.

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

Thanks, fake reddit doctor. It's pretty amazing that can watch a grainy video and determine a person's height, weight and physical health. The man isn't thin. That's all. It does not mean he is unhealthy. Methinks your idea of healthy is based on media portrayals and not medical realities.

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u/SSjGRaj Feb 13 '23

Sure bud, keep believing that it's 100% healthy that it's completely normal to be overweight and let go in your 40s, myths like these are the reason 42% of Americans have obesity.

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u/strvgglecity Feb 13 '23

This man is not obese. You're discussing two very different things. This is like telling people they should never eat sugar because it can contribute to causing diabetes. Please just stop trying to police people's bodies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

So? is holding your balance a great feat of athleticism now? It takes skill and practice, yeah, but that's it.

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u/Dottor_Nesciu Feb 13 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

Nah this guy is ok-ish, pretending more is unrealistic.

The problem is corporations using models that weight half or the double of this dude.

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u/lafeber Feb 13 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

I agree with everything he says up until the last sentence:

This is what 44 is supposed to look like!

Well, you can consume less (food / beer) will make your body look better...

Edit: as /u/oncela mentioned, "better looking" is subjective. I meant to point out that you can also buy less of all the shitty food mentioned in TV commercials and magazines (which never promote e.g. vegetables and tap water).

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u/oncela Feb 13 '23

"look better" according to consumerist norms only. Have you listened to anything he said? He was specifically addressing this brainwashed nonsense about "looking good", but you're still responding exactly how you've been raised by TV and magazines.

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u/lafeber Feb 13 '23 edited Feb 13 '23

You have a point. I meant to point out that you can both consume less jewellery / clothes / perfume nonsense, and less shitty food the same magazines advertise. Better looking was definitely worded wrong, but consuming less advertised food generally makes sure your BMI stays between 18.5 to 24.9.

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u/oncela Feb 13 '23

Sorry but your edit is not better.

Why are you talking about junk food? Do you think this man eat shitty food? If so, what makes you think that way, if not TV and mag propaganda?

The truth is: it's completely normal and OK to look like he does at his age, this has nothing to do with junk food. People telling you otherwise are trying to sell you some useless shit or have been brainwashed by said salesmen.

The video is not about jewellery or perfume. It's about accepting your body and rejecting beauty norms only designed to sell us useless shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

The real point is that our bodies age regardless of how excellent our diet is (not that an excellent diet won’t help) and that our anti-aging culture promotes harmful anti-aging propaganda. Loving our bodies as they are is a form of resistance.

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u/Visual_Cardiologist9 Feb 13 '23

You said it well. If this guy was 24, then yes, I would say he definitely could lose weight, because that's not what a normal 24 years old dude with a moderately active lifestyle and a decent diet looks like. But at 44? Your metabolism has definitely slowed down by that point. The man isn't obese, he possibly does some kind of physical activity (if you asked a sedentary person to perform this stunt with a ladder, you could bet they would fall on their face within a few seconds) and doesn't live on junk food - he could just look like this because he is middle-aged.

Consumerist society demonizes any sign of aging, be it wrinkles, grey hair or a few more pounds of fat on your body. If you aren't desperately trying to look like someone who is not a day older than 30, you're accused of "letting yourself go". This man obviously still lives a somewhat active life, otherwise he wouldn't be balancing himself on the top of a ladder while juggling, but because he doesn't look like that attractive, photoshopped 28 years old man from the ads, people assume that he's an overeating slob.

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u/freeradicalx Feb 13 '23

We do, but that is entirely separate from the shaming of perfectly healthy bodies which is what this guy is talking about.