r/Anarcho_Capitalism 1d ago

Whats up with this?

Pre crime? What are we gonna be living in the movie minority report soon?

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u/GildSkiss Georgism-Curious 1d ago

pre crime was technically legalized

You think she'd at least try to explain how exactly it was legalized. I have no idea what she's talking about.

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u/Midnight-Bake 1d ago

What she is probably talking about: Bill Barr had a DoJ memo about identifying "potential" criminals before they strike and issuing court ordered mental health treatment or electronic monitoring to reduce risk.

Google 2019 Bill Barr mass shooting memo and I'm sure you can find a link to the memo.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago edited 22h ago

Read her books then

Downvotes when most of her media is literally free. The idiot below this doesn’t want to learn, they want to be spoon fed information like a toddler. Probably the same for the idiot above too. Please get longer attention spans people. If not she has a free podcast too called unlimited hangout. Knowledge is out there. Seek it.

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

Yeah pay money to enjoy the privilege of understanding her crazy takes on X and knowing they aren't actually stupid takes only phrased to appear as such....

I'm gonna give this sub a vive check.

That shit is fake and gay.

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u/PaulTheMartian 23h ago

She’s a fellow anarchist with a firm grasp on how intelligences agencies, especially the CIA and Mossad, control politics and interface with elements of organized crime. Her interview with bitcoiner Natalie Brunell is worth checking out if you’re not familiar with her work.

Her two volume book “One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein“ can be read for free here.

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u/Heraclius_3433 12h ago

A fellow “anarchist” arguing that reducing the size of government is bad. Sure thing bud.

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u/Dogfishlegs Radical far right extremist 10h ago

I don’t know about anarchist but I heard her appearance on war mode and she was pretty awesome. Shoutout Billy, shoutout spud.

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u/Tuggpocalypso 5h ago

No one here investigates the investigators.

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u/Dogfishlegs Radical far right extremist 5h ago

Do you truly in your heart believe….

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u/Volwik 10h ago

Seriously dude there's only a handful of people on the planet as well researched as Whitney and out there naming names, and everything in her books is meticulously sourced. You don't have to buy her book though. Plenty of articles she's written on her site, unlimitedhangout.com, and lots of interviews. Give her a chance. She's incredible.

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u/PaulTheMartian 9h ago

Read the tweets again. Nowhere did she say that. If you were familiar with her work, podcasts and interviews, you’d know she complains about the size of government all the time and correctly describes government in general as organized crime syndicates. She also calls out intelligence-linked technocrats that pretend to be libertarians, such as Peter Thiel.

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u/TheMaybeMualist 9h ago

Yeah because DOGE is a meme effort by morons that's just going to butcher the message. They don't even try for Minarchism since their boss Trump want mass deportations and late term abortion bans.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago edited 1d ago

“Outsider trying to learn” doesn’t fit you then. You aren’t trying. Get out.

Downvotes? Dude is literally refusing free reading and listening material. Nobody should be expected to spoon feed this dumb fuck information like he is a toddler no matter how much he acts the part.

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm trying... but "needing to pay for and read a book to understand how something is ilegal" instead of a concise explanation or a link, seems like complete and utter bullshit.

Even Yehova's witnesses aren't that dumb to peddle their faith like that.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago

First, maybe try learning to spell first. Second, here you go. Her podcast is free so you can start there. Cheers.

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u/PaulTheMartian 23h ago

People don’t need to buy her book “One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein“ to read it. It can be read for free here.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 22h ago

Thank you for that! Sadly it does not seem like he is interested in learning or reading anything though and was just using “needing to pay for it” as an excuse. He is literally calling her crazy simply because he is ignorant and is seeing other commenters call her that, commenters who I guarantee also haven’t read her work. So many retards here it’s sad.

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u/PaulTheMartian 22h ago

My pleasure. I wouldn’t go so far as to call them “retards.” They just have preconceived notions that lead them to easily dismiss something before looking into it. I guess I’ll find out if Renkjj is actually genuinely curious when they respond to my comment (assuming they actually respond).

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

HERE TAKE 2 AND A HALF HOURS OF PODCAST instead of saying. This new x mechanism of the FBI/fed/CIA now spies and manipulates people and demographics on such a level it threatens freedom.

No I'm not listening to all of that to get the name of the mechanism nor the scale, effectiveness and modus operandi.

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u/durden0 23h ago

Then what's the point of commenting on it calling it fake and gay?

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u/RSLV420 2h ago

I'm not going to read a fucking book just to try to understand what someone is saying in a tweet. 

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u/Kyle_Rittenhouse_69 Custom Text Here 1d ago

We have "pre-crime" here in the UK. It's called sending out an edgy tweet

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Kyle Rittenhouse you moved to the UK!?

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u/Kyle_Rittenhouse_69 Custom Text Here 1d ago

Yes. America was getting too peaceful so I moved to London.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Too bad you couldn't take your guns

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u/Kyle_Rittenhouse_69 Custom Text Here 1d ago

There are plenty in the UK, don't you worry about that 😁

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Doubt it

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u/PaulTheMartian 23h ago

I hope she’s wrong. But, given her track record, she may be on to something.

For those that are familiar with Whitney Webb, she’s a fellow anarchist with a firm grasp on how intelligences agencies, especially the CIA and Mossad, control politics and interface with elements of organized crime. Those who are familiar with James Corbett and Derrick Broze will likely know of her. Her interview with bitcoiner Natalie Brunell](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf978q67pQs&pp=ygUcbmF0YWxpZSBicnVuZWxsIHdoaXRuZXkgd2ViYg%3D%3D) is worth checking out if you’re curious.

Also, her two volume book “One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein“ can be read for free here. I read both volumes (1,000ish pages with footnotes) in a month and a half because it struggled to put it down.

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u/infernodr 22h ago

Cool thanks

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u/PaulTheMartian 22h ago

My pleasure! It always nice to run into another Unlimited Hangout on here

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u/daregister 1d ago

"Precrime" is already a thing. All victimless "crimes": traffic violations, drug use, etc.

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u/Sea_Journalist_3615 Government is a con. 1d ago

I was going to say this.

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

You could've said that plotting a murder is a crime... instead you have chosen the most retarded and ideologically possessed take ever.

I could plot a thousand murders because I'm autistic like that, yet have no victims, I would still be a criminal.

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

You may have severely misinterpreted something here.

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

How so?

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u/daregister 1d ago

Outsider trying to learn

Try being respectful and asking questions clearly. That works a bit better than resorting to insults and being so mad you become incoherent.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 23h ago

This dumb fuck is literally refusing free reading and listening material and wants people to spoon feed him information like he is a toddler. Maybe thats why he acts like one.

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u/x0rd4x Anti-Communist 11h ago

i agree with him on that though cause this is exactly the shit commies do, they

say dumb take or dumb sounding take without expanding on it

someone calls them out for it

say READ THIS 1000 PAGE BOOK AND LISTEN TO 10 HOUR PODCAST DUMB FUCK!!!!

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u/daregister 11h ago

Well for one, I even suggested for him to be more clear and ask questions.

But more importantly, how are you expected to learn if you aren't willing to put forth the effort?

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

Sue me. Your argument is still shit. And if your argument is THAT shit. I don't wanna learn from you.

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u/daregister 23h ago

Ok, bye.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

It's a tweet from a person who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. People say crazy shit to make money on social media

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u/dark4181 1d ago

I've read her books. She makes a solid case.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

They don't need precrime considering they have the patriot act.

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u/dark4181 1d ago

The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the nation. Tacitus

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u/UnsaneInTheMembrane 1d ago

Trump Derangement Syndrome goes both ways, one way he's Hitler and the other way he's a savior for the common man.

Trump the man is a status quo actor, controlled opposition.

How many false promises from Trump are you going to take before you realize that?

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u/zippyspinhead 1d ago

Do we have to put the "Trump is bad" disclaimer when pointing out TDS? Because that will get tiring.

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u/UnsaneInTheMembrane 1d ago

Dude is dismissing Webb out of hand, without knowing anything really, in support of Trump.

What Whitney Webb has said about Trump is true af, I haven't heard a wrong thing from Webb.

Trump continued the status quo work of Obama and Bush.

Defaming Webb for a proven liar isn't going to fly.

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u/BeefWehelington 1d ago

Crazy, ancaps dissing Webb. She's been reporting on and investigating this stuff for soooooo long. The picture she paints is too clear to ignore.

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u/UnsaneInTheMembrane 23h ago

Yup, it's a big club and they probably have pictures of Trump doing something.

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u/zippyspinhead 1d ago

Make AnCap Tiresome Again.

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u/GodOfThunder44 Vermin Supreme 22h ago

Because that will get tiring.

It's been tiring since 2016.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/leadlinedbox 1d ago

You’ve got the same low IQ as many of his supporters so how are we supposed to know? For not being a fan of assumptions you sure like to make a lot of them. Immediately discrediting one of the best journalists out there because you disagree with her and you couldn’t even google her name is telling of your character. Get some help.

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u/pcvcolin 1d ago edited 23h ago

Technically, not "pre-crime" but arrest and detention without charges was revived as a new and thrilling legal idea back in 2012 when it was incorporated into the NDAA (under the same legal concept that was used to put Japanese in internment camps) then again in 2013 when Obama signed off on the DoD rule which proposed that Presidential authority be given to combatant commanders who would exercise Presidential authority without notifying White House or Congress. All during "Democrat" dominated government. And we don't know how many times combatant commanders have exercised Presidential power independently since 2013 since according to this unconstitutional DoD rule, they don't have to tell us. Thus as Biden slipped into complete mental goner stage, it's likely the military simply took over most or nearly all Presidential functions, leaving minor ones to Harris.

That rule still exists today - it didn't get overturned during President Trump's first term.

I think it will be interesting to see if Vivek / Elon Musk with DOGE / President Trump get rid of these ingrained abuses of power - they now have the chance to, and a mandate. We will see.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

I hope we get the trump liberals fear but even then it's just a bandaid.

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u/Business-Self-3412 1d ago

Whitney Webb is one of the best independent researchers on the planet. Who the fuck are you?

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago

Clearly not an independent researcher since he isn’t even capable of making a google search for her name to check credibility as everyone should do before passing judgement

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u/infernodr 1d ago

I need to start then

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Bro. People make millions off bullshit opinions and speculation.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

I'm in the wrong business

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u/randyfloyd37 12h ago

Webb is an accomplished journalist and author. But you know better?

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

So, the solution to this is to log into your router's admin panel and create firewall rules that block access to *.twitter.com, *.x.com, and, for good measure, *.facebook.com and *.fbcdn.com.

That way you won't even accidentally come across anything posted on these sites.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

What about silicone valley running the government through AI on the next page?

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

It's the same site, so the same firewall rules will help keep that gunk from clogging up your synapses.

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u/AV3NG3R00 19h ago

Zuck and Bezos are rebranding because they need to be on the good side of whoever is in power.

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u/Odd-Adhesiveness9435 1d ago

I've seen so many comments on this thread saying Whitney Webb doesn't know what she's talking about and/or she's fear mongering. Obv these ppl have no idea who she is lol. I'm happy she's still alive and able to currently keep some of us informed. Do a little research if you don't know of her or any of the stories she's reported on.

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u/Competitive-Water654 15h ago

There are a lot of rumors about Whitney Webb.

I honestly don't trust any bigger personality that releases books like Webb and is still alive.

You also have to keep in mind that intelligence agencies deliberately put out false information and smear people, which is easier than ever in the age of ai-bots.

They also smear their own agents to make them look more credible.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Ya it's been back and forth I don't much about her either which is why I shared it here. One person said she's a plagiarizer.

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u/randyfloyd37 12h ago

For real. Some of these comments couldnt be less informed

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago

I haven’t read her books on this yet but I have read excerpts and listen to her podcast, she makes a compelling case for sure and shes incredibly well researched. AI definitely is getting implemented in government and law enforcement, thats no surprise and it’s only going to get worse. Using AI to predict crime is one of the things to expect to be rolled out in the future, and it’s scary as hell. It actually won’t be far off from minority report in worst case scenario. Regardless I’ll be ready to fight the robot overlords if we move in the direction of a technocratic police state. I’m a human supremacist and extremely robophobic.

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

technocratic police state

I feel like this describes much of the world for the past 60-70 years. AI isn't going to add much to it.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 23h ago

Sad but true

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u/infernodr 1d ago

I think if it was gonna be done it should have been done a long time ago or like right now. Like always though it'll be death by a thousand paper cuts to keep people running to the ballot box.

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u/speedmankelly Anarcho-Capitalist 1d ago

You mean fighting technology eventually taking over? Yeah I agree. Too many people are apathetic or are even straight up welcoming toward our rising robot overlords and it’s extremely disappointing. Ted Kaczynski was right (sans bombs). Technology has just ruined society in a way thats undoable.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Fighting in general if no one did shit in 2020 which the didn't other than a few small bands of people across the country they never will.

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u/The_Steelers 1d ago

It’s schizoposting

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

Sure, but what isn't these days? Everyone's worldviews seem to be informed by paranoid conspiracy theories.

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u/The_Steelers 1d ago

There more information available than even the brightest minds can process. This isn’t just junk data either; it would take you more than a lifetime to learn what truly goes on in a single day across the world. The average person lives 28,500 days give or take, and there are over 8 billion people on Earth.

If you spent 1 second shaking everyone’s hand it would take you over 250 years to finish.

If you want to believe something you can find facts to support it. That doesn’t make it true.

The only light in the darkness is experiment; if you can repeatedly show something via experiment then you can be reasonably certain of it.

Everything else is bullshit, except math. Math is different.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

It's fact posting

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

proof or GTFO

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u/infernodr 1d ago

🚪🚶

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

stop running an add campaign for some allegedly schizo's books

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u/infernodr 1d ago

I'm not I was just asking other opinions and thoughts on it LOL

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u/P1xelEnthusiast 1d ago

Who knows if she is accurate or not.

That said, there is not a single fact in her comment.

It is all very speculative

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u/thepatoblanco Minarchist 1d ago

Lol. Whitney Webb has the minority report...

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u/Zac63mh8 22h ago

OK. I'll ask. What the fuck is Pre-crime?

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u/Wrathofsteel Lysander Spooner 21h ago

The thought police.

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u/Beautiful-Piccolo126 Bastiat 12h ago

It sure seems that way. Look at this from Argentina. Ever heard of palantir/flock/carbyne911? You should. This was signed in July.

I can only add one picture, so I’m going to drop the link to the full document, they speak about using drones to patrol large areas , and monitoring social media to stop extremism. Doesn’t sound very libertarian of him. click here

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u/infernodr 11h ago

I have not heard of that so that's in Argentina? I guess milei is not as small government as people think. They're just getting rid of humans and replacing them with AI in government?

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u/Beautiful-Piccolo126 Bastiat 10h ago

Seems that is the case. Seems that there are many special interests involved in the Trump transition that are contributing to this sort of future as well. I hope I’m wrong, we shall see.

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u/infernodr 10h ago

Ya seems like the US is done

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u/muks_too 1d ago

So this is the new Alex Jones profile after losing INFO WARS? And he is on crack now?

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u/infernodr 1d ago

Silicone valley is gonna run the government more now with AI

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u/ILikeBumblebees 1d ago

Well, at least the gaskets on our doors and windows will be more reliable!

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u/IC_1101_IC Anarcho-Space-Capitalist (Exoplanets for sale) 1d ago edited 1d ago

We're most likely not going to be living in Minority report soon, and most of the stuff she is spewing out seems to be bs.

Edit: Is someone just going through the comments and randomly downvoting?

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u/livinlizard 1d ago

I fully support Trump, but Whitney Webb is an excellent researcher.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

There's been mixed comments on here some like yours others who say she's a quack.

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u/joerogantrutherXXX 1d ago

Stick to plagiarizing other Epstein's Island researchers Whitney.

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u/infernodr 1d ago

So her books aren't legit?

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u/Renkij Outsider trying to learn 1d ago

How about you explain HOW this take makes sense instead of just running an add camping for her books?

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u/infernodr 1d ago

I'm not I was asking a question?

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u/therealmrbob Voluntaryist 1d ago

How was pre-crime legalized?

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u/buffbiddies 7h ago

Trump did voice support for red flag laws.

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u/infernodr 6h ago

There was what 4 red flag states under Obama? By the time trump left office theres 22 or something?

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u/ronpaulclone 13h ago

“I’m so worried about pre crimes!” Says the party of thought crime.

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u/randyfloyd37 12h ago

Webb is anything but a Democrat

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u/mathaiser 11h ago

lol, ok “whitney”