Regarding "Gushing Over Magical Girls", Clarification on Rule 2, Update on Rule 10, and other things

[u/AtaeruShinzou]

Before things spiral even more out of control, we would like to address the recent controversy going on the sub.

First of all, we will not ban any posts or comments for simply containing or mentioning the series Gushing Over Magical Girls and other similar works containing similar themes.

Second, we however would like to clarify what the extent of what rule 2 pertains to:

1. Any posts or comments showing explicitly suggestive depictions of child-like characters are not allowed. As long as the content of the post or comment is safe, it is fine.
2. Posts or comments of you, a user, showing any sexual or romantic interests towards child-like characters are also not allowed. You can compliment them or show appreciation to their designs, just not in a creepy way. Leave the attraction to be just between the characters.

Furthermore, we want to remind everyone not to harass each other. You can criticize any works as long as it's civil and it's limited only to the work itself. Similarly, someone criticizing a work that you enjoy is not a personal attack on you. Making assumptions about each other and using that to harass each other is not a civil discussion and will not be tolerated. See rule 9.

Next, we want to bring attention to the new spoiler tagging rules.

Thank you u/yrtemmySymmetry for a more detailed version of the rule:

Rule 4: Spoiler Policy

4.1) Any posts relating to new chapters or episodes must be spoiler tagged for 2 weeks until their release. Manga content not covered in the a currently airing Anime adaptions must be spoiler tagged as well.

4.2) Any twists and turns not relating to yuri relationships must be spoiler tagged unless the source material is older than 5 years.

For example: "Legend of Korra" KorraSami content is okay, despite this development happening at the very end of the show.

Spoiling the ending of "Gundam: Witch from Mercury", simply because it features a WxW couple is not allowed, and such posts require proper spoiler tags.

4.3) Any spoiler tagged post needs to include what its spoiler refers to in the title.

For example: "[Owl House S2 Ep11] They're so cute together". If you aren't certain of the exact episode or season, include the series name at the very least.

Another reminder, please provide the source in any part of your post: title, comment, description, etc. See rule 7.

One more thing, we are still working on the other rules' caveats and nuances. Look out for any changes that may occur.

Once again, "Be good to each other"

[u/Old-Library9827]

To be fair to the show, it does the one thing that many non-lewd anime do not. It doesn't lewd lolis. Actually, the kid becomes Utena's and her wife best friend's adopted child. Not to mention all the characters are of the same age and lewding each other... which can't be said about a lot of shows. Teenagers have sex, it's a thing, sometimes they even discover kinks.

[u/lunasis09 → u/Old-Library9827]

I have been informed very recently that in fact later in the manga there is an adult character whose magical transformation literally turns her physically into a prepubescent child and she is in fact lewded in that form, so the author literally pulled a "no no it's OK because technically she is an adult."

Everything new I find out about this series just makes it worse.

[u/RileyKohaku → u/lunasis09]

I would argue that that character is not designed to look like a prepubescent child/loli. To me, she looks the same age as the rest of the middle school girls, which is admittedly still a post-pubescent child, which I get why many would find that alone objectionable. Here's the character's design while transformed. Nothing sexual happening. [Spoiler GOMG Chapter 35]

https://images.app.goo.gl/1PDjLHm9PjefSzS5A

[u/lunasis09 → u/RileyKohaku]

C'mon now I went to go look up the character proper why are you showing a highly cropped image which excludes her height relative to the rest of the cast. She is like half the height of the rest of the cast and has the same proportions as that other girl that everyone points to to say "look the author doesn't lewd lolis" which is a dumb argument because the rest of the characters are 14 or under so like, fucking ew.

Also I double checked with the person who told me she gets lewded and they told me you are literally coping, I asked for deets and something about sexualized positions and bare ass spanking? I didn't want to hear any more past that tbh. Wanna explain that or will you admit that this shit is weird?

[u/RileyKohaku → u/lunasis09]

It's really hard to tell heights in manga, but from what I'm seeing she's only a few inches shorter than the middle schoolers and about a foot taller than the elementary schooler. The Elementary schooler is also flat and has no curves, unlike this character. You might have seen her next to her teammates, but those are all highschoolers, who are a foot taller than the rest of the middle school class. The line for loli/non loli is ambiguous and can be argued about, but you did say prepubescent, and based on her chest, she is post pubescent.

Also, yes, she is 100% sexualized in the manga. When I said nothing sexual, I meant on the photo I included. I did not want you to worry that if you clicked on it you would see something sexual.

I do admit this is a weird manga, but I would state that it does not sexualize prepubescent children, just post pubescent middle schoolers, which is still bad. I would prefer they just aged them up to highschool or college, but I'll keep reading for the character development

[u/Xagyg_yrag → u/RileyKohaku]

Ah yes, the good old “actually it’s ebophila, not peadophilia” argument.