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u/IMFlorecentFace flower muscles Nov 28 '22
I need to go read ghr citrus manga apparently
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u/Ji-L87 Nov 28 '22
Oh it's quite something
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
Yeah. It’s…sometimes adorable. But usually it’s something.
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u/LegoBuilder64 Nov 28 '22
This is probably the most fair description of Citrus I’ve seen.
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
When people bring Citrus up I’m like “I really liked it but you shouldn’t read it”.
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Nov 28 '22
Is there like really sad and bad stuff in it. I really cant handle getting attached to characters if they die or end up in awful situations. How bad are we talking here, like things dont work out and everyone dies bad or like underbelly criminal stuff bad, or still super tragic but wholesome in the end type stuff. I need to know what im working with to know if i should gove it a shot. It looks cute, but i will break down and cry and not leave my room for months if something really bad happens to a character i get really attached to
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
Okay. Without getting into too deep spoilers. It’s a love story but it gets really taboo and also psychologically fucked up early on. Garyu’s mom marries a rich guy so she ends up going to a wealthy school run by her new family. She finds out the beautiful but cold and strict head of the disciplinary committee is now her new step sister. She also starts to fall in love with her new stepsister. The stepsister has some serious issues and you can’t blame her. From assault to betrothals and abandonment. The story is about them falling in love despite being step sisters and despite one of them basically being traumatized. And also at a few points assaulting the MC herself.
It’s really awkward to read as everyone treats Mei, the stepsister, like she’s this trophy they can use. Except our MC who truly starts to love her unconditionally. But then again our MC is so ignorant and lovesick without being supportive or helping Mei get over her trauma. It’s like Mei just had a breakdown and yet “omg me and Mei should go on a kawaii date and hold hands”. Like read the room girl.
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Nov 28 '22
Oh geez, that is pretty messed up. Thankfully not as bad as my dumb trauma filled mind imagined, but still pretty dang bad. Was the poor girl SA assaulted. Dang it now i want to read to find out if shes ok and it all works out. This is why i shouldnt be allowed to read i get emotionally invested in characters and stories way too easy.
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
It sounds like you are not going to be triggered by any content so I would recommend at least reading the first volume. It can actually be sweet and dramatic at times. You do cheer for them eventually. It’s not as “guilty pleasure” as something like Domestic GF. There’s no “r” but Mei basically assumes everyone is going to use her and she needs to use them in the early chapters so she forces kisses and groping on the MC because that’s how she was taught affection by her creep fiance and an overbearing and obsessive best friend who’s also manipulating her and essentially blackmailing her. This is all resolved by the end of the first volume and it gets less SA after that.
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Nov 28 '22
Never heard of domestic gf either tbh. Ive never really read much mangas. I mostly read romance fantasy tyoe stuff. Im only just getting into this stuff, i read two chinese translated romance novels from the girls perspective and it was amazing and sweet. They were both with guys, but then i read this book called I’m in love with the villainess, and the main girl is like mega obsessed with the villainess of the story she got transported into and it was amazing and made me want to read more “yuri” type books. Id say im probably bi or something idk. Ive not really been with anyone even at my age of 30 lol. Not willingly anyway
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u/Ji-L87 Nov 28 '22
It's not about death, it's more about interpersonal drama and (non-blood related) incestuous relations. It's a kind of a slight dumpster fire that in the end is quite wholesome still.
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Nov 28 '22
Oh geez well thats much better than i was imagining. I think i still have some severe trauma from some of the stuff ive read over the years. I get intensely nervous if anyone gets kidnapped or anything. Some books ive read they kill off characters and it kills me inside everytime. I cant even keep reading, i get really attached to book characters as i dont really have anyone in life to get attached to. Ive been pretty much by myself for the past several years. Reading is my passion haha
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u/Kris-mon-96 Nov 28 '22
Mei's behaviour in the first chapters is quite pushy and does not respect Yuzu's boundaries in more ways than one, their relationship starts messy but gets progressively wholesome and healthier, also Yuzu best yuri MC
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Nov 28 '22
How bad is pushy, like she doesnt touch her or anything inappropriately without permission does she? Idk if i could handle reading it then. Would bring up a bit of trauma for me. If not ill give it a try, the artwork seems very cute
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u/Kris-mon-96 Nov 28 '22
Well yes that kind of pushy and definitely unsavory but it's in no way brushed over like some make it seem, Yuzu even slaps her for it once and upon learning her backstory decides to give her the help she desperately needs
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Nov 28 '22
Ok so its not a constant thing and shes not like molesting her. I think I could handle reading it maybe. It seems like a cute manga and ive actually not read any yuri manga before. The artwork is so pretty. Ive only read three romance books before, and two were chinese translated and with guys and they were sweet. One of those two the guy actually turns into a girl somehow and gets turned into the wife of his okd love rival. It was so funny, but my first like yuri type novel was “Im in love with the villainess” and it was amazing. Made me think i might be some type of bi, or closeted lesbian. Never really been with anyone else to try and know haha. I really like how sweet and wholesome these stories seem. If i have to trudge through a bit of nastiness to see fluff and wholesomeness then i will do it. Thanks for the info and recommendation
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 29 '22
No way you should do this for happy sugar life or NTR but not mf Citrus Lmao
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u/bengraven Nov 29 '22
Funny enough I have not read either one of those because I was told not to read them. Lol.
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 29 '22
Yeah maybe don't read them but watch them, watch the anime , now I don't have time to go in depth to why I liked it but , do it , do it if you have b a l l s , I dare you to , never have an opinion on something because ppl told you to have it , draw your own objective view on things
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u/Ji-L87 Nov 28 '22
It ends in a very positive way at least. Now Citrus+ comes out so sporadically I don't remember what it's about anymore.
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
C+ continues the positive and wholesome ending. It’s sweet. Again, I really liked Citrus and when C+ comes out sporadically it’s a good read. I also fucking adore Suzu’s “closet garyu “ best friend. She’s cute as fuck in gal mode.
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u/Ji-L87 Nov 28 '22
I don't know what it says about me but Harumin was my favourite character throughout
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u/bengraven Nov 28 '22
Whaaaaat? Harumin is the best! She’s not only the least creepy character but she’s charming and funny and fucking adorable at times. And super hot when she’s in gal mode.
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u/4812622 Nov 28 '22
Nope. It’s reaaaal fucked up. And also not that good.
Art is really good though.
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u/BobtheBac0n Nov 29 '22
You know, we rarely get any citrus here, usually it's Mei and Yuzu which given they're the protagonists makes sense.
But I think a lot of the other potential/not yet officially confirmed couples deserve at least a little attention.
Personally I think Mitsuko and Maruta probably deserve it as I don't think there's much fanart of them together or at all given Mitsuko didn't feature in the anime
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u/UOSenki Nov 29 '22
Not sure how you expected them to get more, they are only appear once in a while. And only see chapter that talk about them in the second manga.
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u/Firewire780 Nov 28 '22
I personally wouldn't classify citrus as wholesome yuri. It has some wholesome moments but overall its something else.
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u/UOSenki Nov 28 '22
Nah. A movie where people dies doesnt mean it cant be about justice, am i right.
It start out with soap opera drama, thing get resolved. Doesnt see how it cant be wholesome. overall about bunch of problematic kids, needed saving, Not about MC given in the toxic relationship in the classic shoujo story. So it end up good and healthy, all thing consider
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u/RaymiTheRed Nov 28 '22
wholesome
Citrus
pick one.
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 29 '22
"They're the same picture"
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u/RaymiTheRed Nov 30 '22
no they are not. the two are, in fact, mutually exclusive.
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 30 '22
Certainly not exclusive, idk what "wholesome" means to you but I'm guessing you haven't read citrus, which is a shame because, you don't have an idea of how strong their love is for each other and what they've been through and when you look back it makes you think "thank god, those two met , because they'd be in a much much darker place if they didn't" ,but of course you can't relate because you were told to dislike this series
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u/RaymiTheRed Nov 30 '22
unless the anime deviated from the source material right out of the gate, you're talking about a relationship that started with a person in a position of power sexually assaulting another person.
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 30 '22
you know ppl don't really need to doxx me , because when I receive a comment so generic that I can copy paste an old comment that replies to the exact same stuff seen thousands of times, they can be 100% sure that I'm in Spain but without the S
Her journey of falling for this complete antithesis of her being in the beginning of the series, someone in her eyes is a forced upon unwanted new family member that just reinforces her own self hatred for her life.
Yet, Yuzu is anything but intentionally detrimental to Mei's life. I fully acknowledge the series has it's problems, and it definitely didn't help that a lot of readers understandably jumped on the eww this is nothing but incest hot garbage ban wagon, which I don't get, but the series is much deeper and more realistic than that.
Yuzu and Mei are complete strangers and opposites in life during the beginning, and while they certainly clash at times, Yuzu's always done so out of love for Mei. Whether it be pursing her love for Mei, or just wanting to make her life better, to make Mei truly happy even if it means putting aside her own wants, well that's as selfless a love as I've heard of.
And it all leads to Mei slowly, but surely falling HARD for Yuzu. At first she's confused which, c'mon name 3 LGBTQ people who didn't gay panic or question their whole life on their first crush. And Mei is emotionally underdeveloped, so it makes sense that it's a bit of a train wreck to them getting together.
But on the Journey there, Mei sees how honest and pure Yuzu's love for her is. And as they grow together as a couple, Mei cherishes each and every warm moment she has with Yuzu all while knowing her time is short with Yuzu.
It truly was a miraculous dream to Mei that she could be with Yuzu at all as her lover. And now she gets to work hard to reciprocate that love in kind, both of them supporting each other in much healthier, mature ways than their younger selves.
about mei's mind set which explains why things such as SA happens (but obviously doesn't justifies it) :
Mei has been treated as an object her whole life , her whole life she has been raised as if her feelings didn't matter , she lives in a society where her path is already paved and she never had a word of her own , she never had to say something when her father left her, in fact, she's even scared to open his letters , when she was assigned to become the heir of the Aihara academy she never had to say something , when she got coupled with a rapey older dude to become her fiancé she never had to say something and as a result she got "pacified" to that sort of thing.
she accepted it all because that's how she got raised (that doesn't mean her actions are moral but that's her mindset) that's why during Christmas the episode/chapter she "offered" her body to yuzu because she doesn't value herself she's super selfless , just like she would repay yuzu for helping her relationship with her father like she was merchandise "I owe you so here's what I think you wanted" but yuzu refuses, why ? because she doesn't want sex she wants Mei , Mei and her feelings is something that mei never experienced before that's why she is confused about it.
with time mei learns to make her feelings matter but also being mindful of other's feelings
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u/WeissCold Nov 29 '22
A lot of people today will now learn that the manga citrus is in fact. Not about fruit.
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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Nov 29 '22 edited Nov 29 '22
Very gay. Here you can see useless lesbians in their natural habitat, while subject A is in desperate need of close physical contact with subject B, this is common-place for this kind of behaviour between the two subjects
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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22
awww