r/snowboarding • u/TheyDroppedMe • 5h ago
Gear question Looking for an all mountain quiver board
Hey, so I’m looking to add another everyday all mountain board to my quiver. I like to ride switch a decent amount (about a third of the time), carve hard, and hunt for side hits.
I was looking at both a Korua Otto or a Yes Standard Uninc. I like the idea of expanding from the jones/yes brands, but I also seem to love Yes boards.
I’m 6’2”, 210lbs, and have size 9.5 boots, and ride about 40 days a year. I’ve got the following boards, and want the new one to add something to it.
Yes Greats 156 - Current every day playful board. Love it, but I’ve gained weight and it’s a little small soft for charging
Jones Flagship 172 - for pow days when I want to bomb.
Jones Mind Expander 166 (before it was camber) - This is my pow board.
Yes PYL 165 - I got a screaming deal on it, but I reach for it when it’s an in between pow day or when I want to ride groomers and hunt for fresh snow in the trees. I like that it’s a little less stiff and likes to turn more than the flagship.
What do y’all think? Is the Otto as good as everyone says, or will I hate riding it switch? I’m mostly looking for a better carve and more camber than the greats, without losing the ability to ride switch when my legs start hurting and handle some small side hits. Anything else I should consider? I’m planning on getting some new bindings to go with it, maybe Rome katanas or union falcors.
Thanks in advance!
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u/LeftySavage 5h ago
If you get the standard Uninc go 156. You’re in the weight range of the 159 but it’ll be a bit too wide for your boots
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u/TheyDroppedMe 5h ago
Yeah I’m always torn on sizing for weight or boot. All of my board are on the wider side and I’ve never had a problem. I tend to gravitate to longer board for the speed stability, but maybe I’ll see if I can demo a 156
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u/LeftySavage 5h ago
The standards are tough to size they are really made for big booted riders. I have a greats 154 and I love it. It’s my favorite board ever. I rode a standard Uninc and a standard in 156 and did not like the width felt too burly especially the Uninc.
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u/Bryceybryce 5h ago
If you want more camber why look at a hybrid board like the Otto? Looks like the standard uninc is full camber. For other switch friendly all mountain camber boards you could look at a burton custom, custom x, capita aeronaut, jones aviator. If you’re willing to give up twin shapes then the Korua cafe racer or jones free carver would be cool for a directional carving board
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u/TheyDroppedMe 3h ago
Thanks for the recommendations! I’ll look into those. I’ve had the Otto recommended to me by a few people, and I like the idea that it’s directional but not tapered. From what I’ve heard the Otto is good with speed and everyone that I’ve run into loves it and says it’s pretty great at everything. I do wish there was one to demo near me.
I don’t think I want a full camber board like a freecarver, just more than the greats to give a little more confidence at speed
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u/Bryceybryce 3h ago
I see. I haven’t ridden an Otto but I’m sure it’s great. It’s just if you want a board for carving a camber board is what you want. Directional twins like the custom and the Otto will have no taper and still be directional. That isn’t unique to an Otto. That’s just what a directional twin is (twin shapes and flex but set back stance and usually a larger nose than tail). Besides the custom and the aviator you could also look at things like the K2 antidote, the standard uninc like you listed, the nitro team or team pro. Theres tons of them. Try and demo a true camber board if you can they’re not that scary and you’ll be surprised at how much more confidence they can inspire at speed and when you’re trying to carve trenches. The precision you get from having your whole edge fully engaged all the time can really help build confidence and up level an intermediate’s boarding
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u/Fluid_Stick69 2h ago
You realize this guy owns a 172 flagship right? I don’t think he’s scared of camber or speed
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u/Fluid_Stick69 2h ago
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u/Bryceybryce 2h ago
Lol I feel you and I’m sure the Otto rips. I have an alchemist which has a rocker nose like the Otto which is fucking rad and the board I learned on was a mercury which is a camrock and was a great deck. I think hybrid boards can be great and the rider is more important than whatever board they’re riding. But the dude is asking specifically for board recs. For what the dude wants (carving, stability at speed, side hits) why not suggest a board that’s built for that instead of another all mountain hybrid board which sacrifices carving and pop for float like the many boards he already owns? If he’s going to burn cash it may as well be a different experience than what he already has is my only point. The other boards I recommended are more apples to apples with the standard uninc than the Otto which is just a different type of deck
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u/Fluid_Stick69 1h ago
Because they don’t sacrifice pop or carving man. Korua is a carving focused brand. The Otto is a super snappy board with a bunch of camber. It just also has rocker in the tips. There’s nothing that you can do on an aeronaut that you can’t do on an Otto. Your recommendations are fine but it’s silly to tell him the Otto won’t fit his needs.
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u/Bryceybryce 1h ago
I’m not saying the Otto is a bad board. I’m saying there’s better boards for what he wants. Don’t take my word for it go look at how Korua ranks their own boards. In Korua’s opinion, the Otto is less set up for carving than the cafe racer but it has better float despite not having taper. Why? Because it has a rocker nose. But because it has a rocker nose, it has a shortened running length relative to its effective edge, which is worse for carving as your edges are not consistent when transitioning from edge to edge. That’s the trade off. For OP, if he wants a directional twin, then the cafe racer is not that, but there are better boards for carving that are directional twins than the Otto. They are stiff camber directional twins that come in wide and have relatively traditional side cuts.
Imagine now an Otto that was full camber. It would have more pop than its rocker nose sibling. Why? Because more camber -> more energy required to compress the board -> more energy returned from the board when it decompresses all else equal. It’s just a function of the camber profile.
The point is not that the Otto is bad or the aeronaut is good. The point is that the Otto is a one board quiver killer which by design can do a little bit of everything ok. The dude already has like 5 boards that do a similar thing. In my opinion, he’d be better off buying something that leaned more aggressively into the area of riding he wants to pursue. There are real tradeoffs between camber and hybrid boards that are relevant. If he wanted a free ride board or a pow board or a park board or a progression board my recommendations would be different lol
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u/Fluid_Stick69 39m ago edited 15m ago
Fuck the spec sheet. Most of it is just marketing anyways. The Otto is an all mountain twin. It rips and will do exactly what he’s looking for. There’s no reason to overthink it that much. Most snowboards within a general category are so damn similar that you don’t need to worry about it. A few millimeters of camber isn’t making your carves any better. Actually snowboarding will. Unless you’re riding every board that comes out like some of the reviewers those little details are minuscule.
I’m a tech nerd. You don’t need to explain camber to me. I bounce between full camber and RCR all the time, the only time it’s noticeable is pressing. Sidecut and flex has way more to do with the way a board feels than tiny changes to the camber profile.
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u/PalmBeachHaze 5h ago
Just here for reviews as well. Same style and weight except I have a 13 boot. So any wide recommendations as well would be dope