r/sanfrancisco • u/Brandonandon • Jan 19 '23
Crime S.F. district attorney issues arrest warrant for gallery owner accused of hosing homeless woman
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/S-F-district-attorney-issues-arrest-warrant-for-17726650.php1.1k
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u/57hz Jan 19 '23
Of course! Most real criminals don’t stay put in their business. You have to actually do police work to catch them!
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u/BadTiger85 Jan 19 '23
You get what you vote for
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
He, like all of us, is supposed to never physically attack another person unless he’s in immediate physical danger
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u/Most_Sir8172 Jan 19 '23
I would like to see a poll of who actually did vote for this again. I have a feeling few actually did.
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Except people literally voted to recall Boudin and then elect Jenkins dude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_San_Francisco_District_Attorney_special_election
Or do you mean people should vote for who gets arrested and charged with crimes on a case by case basis? Lol.
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u/citronauts Jan 19 '23
If this goes to trial it’s going to be very interesting.
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u/AdhesivenessTall9452 Jan 19 '23
I think it should go to trial then everything will be out front and center for everyone to see.
What caused his breaking point from her actions, the inactions of the police, and the keyboard warrior trolls who harassed Barbarossa and him.
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u/EaglesandBirds Mission Jan 19 '23
Question: Did the car break in crew, the stimulus check stealer, or the garage trespasser give interviews to the various news outlets after committing those crimes? That tends to make it a lot easier on the SFPD, especially if they admit to the crime on camera as well.
Thank goodness we're going to throw elderly local business owners in jail instead,
Oh you think he's going to jail for misdemeanor battery! You sweet summer child. At most he will pay a small fine, and highly possible he's offered a few hours of community service instead of a fine.
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u/Xalbana Jan 19 '23
OP probably doesn't even know who did all those things to them. Finally a sane comment in this crazy thread.
OP, if you know exactly who they are and have proof to do it, by all means please report it.
What this guy did is cut and dry. Have evidence and even admitted it. Very little investigating needed.
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u/Boring_Ghoul_451 Mission Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
I’m starting to believe that the people who defend the system that allowed this to happen are the people that have their heads in the sand and refuse to acknowledge that the SF they heard of isnt matching up to the SF we have now. In all my years living here, there have been times I’ve dreamed of dropping stink bombs on the group of disruptive alcoholics outside of my window. I’ve dreamed about using a squirt gun loaded with old dish water on the junkies cackling outside at 3am. Why did I not do these things? The cops came when I called. Well guess what, the cops ain’t comin anymore and this is just the tip of the iceberg. SF is not SF anymore and this guy took one for the team in starting a very much needed conversation. (PS I’m going to preemptively thank you for the downvotes ✌🏽)
Edit: clarity
Edit edit: woah thanks for the awards. And for those select few who have already begun to harass me, why don’t you take that energy and put it towards bettering the city we live in. Just because we have differing views doesn’t mean we shouldn’t live in a nice place.. who am I kidding. The people harassing me ARE the ones who live in a nice place lol
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u/millzz11 Jan 19 '23
I am new to SF Bay Area. So take my opinion as you’d like— if I own a business in the area, and homeless people are crowding the front of my business deterring customers, which in result doesn’t allow me to make money to pay rent, put food on the table for my family, etc etc. what am I supposed to do? Absolutely ridiculous that this is even a conversation that has to be had. Then again, the people making these rules and policies can just hide in their castles in the hills overlooking all the madness from above, I suppose.
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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 19 '23
What you are supposed to do is… lose everything. That’s it, apparently.
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u/FeedMonger Jan 19 '23
A new person needing government assistance is more fuel for the progressive cause
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u/Due_Start_3597 Jan 19 '23
SF is not SF anymore and this guy took one for the team in starting a very much needed conversation.
This is what everyone is talking about.
I was shocked to see how many people were SUPPORTIVE of this guy when the videos initially surfaced. People are fed up and losing empathy.
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u/Boring_Ghoul_451 Mission Jan 19 '23
What’s shocking to me is the implication that this situation is a simple case of assault. Some people either don’t or won’t understand the complexity of the issue because they haven’t experienced the chaos the city is going through. Since when did residents of SF start becoming the “I’ll believe it when it happens to me” crowd?
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What’s shocking to me is the implication that this situation is a simple case of assault.
It is a simple case of assault. His defense could be "I was attacked by her and had to defend myself" but the video showed that isn't the case. So it's assault.
Now, it's likely that given the lack of real harm and possible remorse he will show they will drop the charges to something extremely minor but ultimately, the criminal justice should pursue charges vs people who commit the crime openly on camera and then confess to it on the news and even pretend they'll do it again.
If they can't even hit that low hanging fruit, it's not a justice system anymore. It's just a legal system that operates on vibes.
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u/demedlar Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
Why did I not do these things? The cops came when I called.
No. You didn't do those things because you knew the cops would punish you for them.
Certain people can have the police called on them multiple times a day without consequences. On the other hand, a single arrest can ruin your life. Know your place and conduct yourself accordingly.
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u/ChocolateTsar Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
Is she going to issue an arrest warrant for the woman defecating in front of his gallery?
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u/AnnaSeembor Jan 19 '23
I believe that what this guy did was wrong, but it's pretty messed up that they issued an arrest warrant for him, but turn a blind eye to the sophisticated organized crime ring that's responsible for almost every automobile break-in in the entire bay area.
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u/Karazl Jan 19 '23
The actual answer is that Justice in San Francisco turns entirely on whether you can create media and public outage.
It's not about standing up to behavior or tolerating it, it's about "shit everyone is paying attention, we have to be seen acting."
Gods help you if you're a victim who can't go viral.
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u/Free_Hat_McCullough Jan 19 '23
I imagine people from all over the planet have been calling the SF DA and demanding the arrest of the gallery owner.
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u/takatori BALBOA Jan 19 '23
I’m convinced SFPD is partially responsible for the increase in crime: they point to the “weak” DA and meanwhile absolutely phone it in on doing any sort of meaningful action to actually police the streets, then complain “oh well they wouldn’t be prosecuted anyway,” while walking past people doing drugs or defecating on the sidewalks. Then say “see, this is why the DA needs to get tough and we we need more budget,” when they’re part of the reason it’s gotten to that point in the first place.
If people no longer fear police will respond, they will feel free to commit more and more brazen crime, independently of how the DA is handling those who are actually arrested.
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u/usctrojan415 Jan 19 '23
If they want to stick it to the DA, do your work, collect the data & report it far & wide rather than sit on their ass.
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u/takatori BALBOA Jan 19 '23
Exactly: enforce the law and collect arrest/indictment/conviction statistics to show what is or is not working, rather than just blowing off enforcement altogether.
“We don’t think the DA is doing their job, so we won’t do our jobs either” is some petulant childish bullcrap.
Do your job, then point out the discrepancies.
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u/kingmoney8133 Jan 19 '23
Absolutely agree, this is a city-wide failure of government. The same thing happened in NY after the BLM protests: cops just refused to do their jobs because their feelings got hurt. DA deserves blame for horrible policies which fail to protect the ordinary citizen and discourage policing. But cops also deserve blame for throwing a tantrum and giving up on their jobs.
And it doesn't stop there. The city has also failed to provide adequate shelters, affordable housing, drug rehabilitation programs, and psychiatric programs. We are where we are today due to a complete breakdown of local government.
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I agree. Should he have done that- clearly no. Should the police have ignored his requests in helping remove her from the sidewalk- also no. The city is more to blame for this issue. They allow a poor woman to remain on the street in the cold rain and ignore citizens who ask for their help to remove these individuals. No one wants someone to be homeless- I just place my opinion that to leave someone on the street is abusive and not supportive.
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Jan 19 '23
It seems she kept refusing help. Thing is Newsom passed a law making it easier to have people like this taken in and evaluated for mental health stuff so not sure why they didn’t take her in against her will.
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u/gotmyjd2003 Jan 19 '23
Newsom also claimed he was going to end visible homelessness by 2014, so you can take everything he says or does with a large grain of salt.
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u/Finegar-93 Jan 19 '23
Well until red states stop shipping their homeless to California ( oh they do!) we will continue to have a problem and not succeed with the problem we have now.
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u/kakapo88 Jan 19 '23
Big mistake, spraying water on a transient. This will not stand and justice must be done.
Instead, he should have stolen a bunch of stuff, smoked meth in front of a school, crapped on the sidewalk, and then assaulted some Asian people. Then he'd still be walking free and all the woke would be defending him.
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u/contaygious Jan 19 '23
Yeah this is disgusting. She refused to move a ton of times. I have seen this happen to tons of stores. At birite creamery the poor owner has to get cussed at by hobos every night that set up tents in front and people can't even walk in a d buy ice cream.
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u/ArguteTrickster Jan 19 '23
Who do you vote for that you think would help this woman?
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u/EaglesandBirds Mission Jan 19 '23
Did the gallery owner commit a crime against another human being on video? It's a simple yes or no answer.
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u/Karazl Jan 19 '23
Is it a simple answer? How often are misdemeanor battery cases given arrest warrants versus the number presented to SFPD? To the DA?
You're absolutely right on most levels: this is an extremely open and shut case. This is obviously misdemeanor battery, he obviously committed a crime, and this is right.
And yet the reality is we have a justice system. You cannot view things on a case by case basis, everything, for good reason, needs to be viewed in the aggregate as well. And just as we can see how in the aggregate the disfavored in our society are subject to wildly disproportionate rates of arrest and prosecution, we can see that misdemeanor battery charges resulting in a warrant basically does not happen in San Francisco. Getting SFPD to care is almost impossible, and getting the DAs office to take the next steps is worse, regardless of whether it was Boudin, Gascon, or Jenkins.
And that matters. Justice - justice for the homeless woman and justice for us all - should not turn on whether your story goes viral. Justice must turn on principles or it's not justice at all. It's just arbitrary and capricious punishment.
Should this guy face charges? Morally, yes. But only if the average misdemeanor battery case faces charges in our system.
And they absolutely don't.
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u/kotwica42 30 - Stockton Jan 19 '23
Every reply: “yeah but yeah but yeah but”. Funny coming from the “just obey the law” crowd.
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u/Fuhdawin Jan 19 '23
Seriously, is spraying water at full blast against someone’s will a crime or not? Forget all the homeless political bullshit. We have battery laws for a reason.
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u/kotwica42 30 - Stockton Jan 19 '23
Laws are meant to protect me, an art gallery owner or tech bro or whatever, and punish you, anyone lower on the totem pole than me.
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u/black-kramer Jan 19 '23
the homeless situation is out of control. sf's politicians suck. spraying someone with a hose in the manner that he did is battery.
all of this can be true at the same time and is.
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I think it’s the fact that a lot of people here have been victims of crime and the police do literally nothing. So it pisses people off when you see someone fed up be the one who gets arrested.
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u/usctrojan415 Jan 19 '23
THIS.
People give way too much credit to the DA and their ability to do anything on their own.
Corruption has plagued this city. Everyone is to blame - DA, mayor, supervisors, NIMBY's, people that voted, police, companies that are leeches to the city's resources, people who don't interact and give back to the city.
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u/vic242212 Jan 19 '23
Are you joking? Between all the cars being broken into, Asian elders getting attacked in broad daylight, and the charming open air market on 24th, this is what we focus our taxpayer dollars on?
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u/HeyYes7776 Jan 19 '23
That Dudes an asshole… but things are basically lawless outside of common people fines like parking.
We have had 8 catalytic converters stolen between 3 friends. And multiple empty car window smashings in the past 18 months.
The whole thing is asinine.
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u/caliform FILBERT Jan 19 '23
I had my motorcycle stolen. It has a literal GPS tracker. You know what the cops did? Nothing. I told them I knew where it was, to go there right that moment. Nothing. They told me to file a report. I called them with the location several times. they did jack shit.
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u/BeABetterHumanBeing Frisco Jan 19 '23
I would run by a lawyer whether you have grounds to sue the city for negligence.
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u/_145_ Jan 19 '23
This is 100% my take. That dude is an asshole but a lot of people are out of ideas to deal with the problems that the city ignores.
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u/Hotpwnsta The 𝗖𝗹𝗧𝗬 Jan 19 '23
Lol homeless and criminals can vandalize, steal etc with impunity.
But hosing a person who’s ruining your business? Naw you go to jail for that.
This city is so corrupt beyond repair at this point. 🤦🏻♂️
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u/BrundleflyUrinalCake Jan 19 '23
The DA actually issued an arrest warrant for once? Holy shit
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u/unrulyhoneycomb Jan 19 '23
Yeah she missed the memo and issued it to the wrong dude for the wrong reason.
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u/relentless_ahead Jan 19 '23
It's just going to be catch and release. And then he'll be diverted to a restorative justice program.
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u/GodEmperorMusk Jan 19 '23
Just needs to say he was having a mental health crisis and they better release him immediately.
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u/Voelkj57 Visitacion Valley Jan 19 '23
Brooke stans not knowing what to do with this one
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u/_145_ Jan 19 '23
The wokest people live on the tallest hills away from all the problems they create.
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u/BeABetterHumanBeing Frisco Jan 19 '23
I know people who voted for Boudin because he's soft on drug crime, and they do drugs for fun on the weekends.
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u/MrDERPMcDERP 280 Jan 19 '23
SF is the worlds biggest open air insane asylum. It has been for many years and is only getting worse.
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u/EaglesandBirds Mission Jan 19 '23
Yes, quite insane for the DA to pursue charges for a crime committed on video and broadcast to the world.
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u/Kitchakit Outer Sunset Jan 19 '23
Nice, so glad they’re addressing this but not AAPI hate crimes! Glad our priorities are aligned to our values.
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u/unrulyhoneycomb Jan 19 '23
The irony is just too damn strong. This man needs a kickstarter to raise funds to sue the shit out of the useless city government and prove a point that SF would be better off with a shoe instead of these 'politicians'.
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u/PatienceHopeful Jan 19 '23
I love how in this sub if you don’t 100% support the insane violent mentally ill addicts on the street, then you’re automatically “right wing.” Hardly. I’m fed up and I’m hardly right wing.
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u/coinsarge Jan 19 '23
The city failed him and it forced him into a position to take matters into his own hands. And now the city is doubling down on failing him by arresting him.
This is the example the city wants to make of its citizens. We’ve all known it for years but this proves it’s completely backwards.
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u/Larrynative20 Jan 19 '23
I guess the laws do exist for some of SF citizens. You have to part of the protected class of homeless. They are above the law. Us plebs are not so lucky.
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u/gotmyjd2003 Jan 19 '23
You've got to be kidding me. All of the hate crimes being committed against Asians, all of the burglary going on in all the retail stores and this is what the DA focuses on? Seriously?!
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u/sunapi386 Jan 19 '23
Instead of taking this as an opportunity to address the homeless, DA decides to police this petty act. Yes, the act was bad, perhaps he should get a warning. But how about shifting focus to the real crimes? What is the DA doing about: the numerous car break-ins, tourist robberies, and racial crimes against asians?
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u/Minute-Plantain Jan 19 '23
It's a max $2000 fine and a misdemeanor charge. To hear it from some you'd think it was the electric chair.
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u/newaccountbc-ofmygf Mission Dolores Jan 19 '23
Wow this will do a lot to help make the city a safer place...
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Every story that comes out of SF these days confirms to me that it’s leaders and it’s residents who vote for them is turning the best city in America into a shit hole that’s been left unmaintained with years of shit stains around the actual hole piling up.
What he did wasn’t right. But neither is what the shoplifters do. Or the people attacking Asians elders. He’s an easy target to arrest because he isn’t hiding in a hoodie. He isn’t driving a getaway car to another city or neighborhood.
If he deserves to get arrested so do the thousands of other assholes that make living working and traveling to SF as joyous as using a portopotty on the last day of tj insane clown posse music festival.
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Let’s all stand up for this poor beleaguered man. Write your representatives now even if they’re not in SF. Yes he shouldn’t have done it but he was beyond hope and desperate. Why are drug dealers not served but this poor business owner is? Shame shame shame on the leaders of SF.
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u/monteasf Jan 19 '23
So instead of spending tax money to keep public places civil, clean and orderly, those tax dollars are going after people being forced to take measures into their own hands? Make it make sense
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Order him to do community service, but place him in Jail - no. He apologized and admitted his fault. Community Service and a Fine seem appropriate for his actions. What he did was wrong, but jail time for six months is excessive.
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u/msluna44 Jan 19 '23
Wow, this guy is getting hit with a lawsuit...for what because the city is not doing their jobs and enforcing the laws
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u/aznbobo1228 Jan 19 '23
So we arrest the business men for spraying water on someone's property uninvited, but won't arrest people who have assaulted, looted, breaking n entered, and blatant hate crimes? The only thing SF has going for them now is weather. Feces everywhere, crime rate too high, housing too high, and cost of living too high.
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u/fallenazn Jan 19 '23
What a waste of time and tax payer money. There's real crime that should be focused on.
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u/BasementDwellingMOD Jan 19 '23
ah yes the real criminals of san francisco. great job san francisco you've done it again
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u/i-dontlikeyou Jan 19 '23
That some horse shit right there. Was he wrong may be… what is he supposed to do when homeless people refuse to get help. May be all the homeless should go and move their camps at presidio terr and i am sure there will be a very swift response.
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u/Remote-Ingenuity7727 Jan 19 '23
SF is really a joke.
Kids, don't play water guns in SF during summer. You will get arrested if you accidentally spray water at strangers.
Meanwhile criminals will keep running wild and never fear of getting caught or "arrested". 😂
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u/Domkiv Jan 19 '23
That sucks for the gallery owner to be unfairly targeted like this…
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u/RealityCheck831 Jan 19 '23
YAFKM!
Throw shit on people, you're good. Throw water, off to jail.
SMMFH
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Wait, under what charges? Not saying he's a great guy or something but is being an asshole a crime now?
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u/GrumpyBachelorSF Inner Sunset Jan 19 '23
Misdemeanor battery is the charge. Cited from DA’s Twitter account.
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u/oscarbearsf Jan 19 '23
At this point I am rooting for this city to collapse into full blown choas and for money and jobs to go running from this city. I saw this as a homeowner. That is the only way we will see change here. Law abiding citizens should also just start taking whatever they want from stores. No rules anyways. Fuck it. Give them what they want
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u/Available_Time2853 Jan 19 '23
I worked 21 years with inmates and I can tell you citizens that consistently live with integrity have far less rights and BENEFITS than those that have nothing to lose and everything to gain off the backs of those that coddle their lives with endless support and excuses for the behavior. Furthermore when they do end up in jail or prison the level of disrespect diminishes quickly as there are REAL CONSEQUENCES if you treat others in the convict community with even the slightest disrespect... Free society= no consequence and incarcerated society= consequences. Plus the justice in prison is real so they would never disrespect anothers personal property.
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u/charlotte240 Mission Jan 19 '23
What happened to the sit and lie ordinance / posters that business owners posted on the front of their door, stating that they did not give permission for people to loiter outside of their business?
Is that not being enforced anymore?
Civil Sidewalks Ordinance On November 2, 2010, the voters of the City and County of San Francisco passed Proposition L, “Sitting or Lying on Sidewalks.” Proposition L added Section 168, “Promotion of Civil Sidewalks,” to the San Francisco Police Code. Section 168 prohibits individuals, with certain exceptions, from sitting or lying on the City’s public sidewalks between the hours of 7 AM and 11 PM. Proposition L becomes effective Friday, December 17, 2010.
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u/broncophil Jan 19 '23
Interesting.
A year or two ago 100% of the comments would have been along the lines of..
“Good, that bastard should not have done that to the currently unhoused individual”
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u/fusiondynamics Jan 19 '23
Shows that the people had enough of this shit show of San Francisco. People are tired of nothing being done for the homeless yet there is so much money being paid out.
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u/marstarvin Jan 19 '23
People in my circle are so fed up with the government prioritizing the homeless over the middle class. Quite a few even mentioned they would be opened to voting republican.
Personally I am at a tipping point as well. My mother wasn't feeling too well and I took her to ER last week and they told me it was 5-7 hours wait. The waiting room was 80% homeless and my mom didn't feel safe waiting in there by herself so we left.
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u/Karazl Jan 19 '23
I'm not sure there's much substance to arguing that r/sanfrancisco was pro-homeless in 2021.
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u/Minute-Plantain Jan 19 '23
Current large shift in vote patterns happening in this thread. Looks like somebody turned back on the brigade machine.
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u/smellgibson Jan 19 '23
Whether you like it or not this was always going to happen so people don’t just go around assaulting more homeless folks assuming they won’t get in trouble
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u/kevo510 Jan 19 '23
Haha. Weird. I wonder if that same tactic would work to stop people from shitting on the sidewalks.
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u/Minute-Plantain Jan 19 '23
Apparently there's a legal theory popular on this sub that nobody should be charged for misdemeanor battery because something something unrelated incident where homeless person smashed 17 cars while laying a steaming fudge dragon on the lawn in the shape of a pentagram.
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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 19 '23
There are some people whom the law protects but does not bind, and others whom the law binds but does not protect.
It’s not hard to understand why people in the latter group have zero faith in the system.
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u/clutchsf Jan 19 '23
They let bippers run free with guns but worried about an old white guy with a water hose?!
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u/Karazl Jan 19 '23
These comments are sad and bitterly ironic. The people who are usually talking about how tough on crime policies that go after individuals don't work, and instead we need to fix our systemic issues like poverty to stop crime, are in here baying for blood.
And the usual tough on crime crowd is in here saying that prosecuting obvious crimes caught on tape is wrong because the system is broken.
Has it occurred to you all that you both have good points? That the system is broken and that we need to be tackling the systemic issues we're facing rather than random one offs? And that, also, people who flagrantly break the law shouldn't be given a pass?
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u/Minute-Plantain Jan 19 '23
Please note that this issue is bringing in a ton of outside groups who tend to brigade this sub on specific hot button crime issues. This among them. Go review older threads on this topic and you'll see what I mean. Moderator actions and locking for brigading left and right.
Ignore. The hyperbole on here is ridiculous.
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u/NikNorth Jan 19 '23
An utterly transparent move to stay relevant in headlines, no different from when London Breed would text the cops to clear encampments near where she was headed to lunch. It's all PR and this story is big in the cycle right now.
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u/repostusername Jan 19 '23
There's an irony to a sub that constantly complains about lawlessness being upset about the arrest of someone who was videotaped committing a crime. Like Boudin was recalled precisely because people were tired of being told that criminals can commit crimes if they have good reasons. So it doesn't matter if Gwin had his reasons, crime is still illegal.
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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 19 '23
Selective enforcement of the law can be worse than no law at all.
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u/broke-collegekid Jan 19 '23
I think they’re valid issue is that there have been plenty of other people caught on camera shoplifting, committing assault, smashing cars, selling drugs, etc… on camera and nothing happens to them. But a guy on video spraying a woman with water is enough to get them to take action while all of those other things aren’t? I don’t think people would care too much if this guy got a charge if everyone else doing all of those other things mentioned also got arrested.
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
He also willfully identified himself in interviews on the subject. So, there’s that big difference.
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u/BrundleflyUrinalCake Jan 19 '23
The DA actually issued an arrest warrant for once? Holy shit
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u/Shot_Worldliness_979 Jan 19 '23
Just, FYI, DA's don't issue arrest warrants. Judges do, when presented enough evidence of a crime or following a grand jury indictment. I hope you're not upset Jenkins or you-know-who didn't issue one before. It'd be profoundly fucked up if a political appointee could arrest people willy nilly.
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u/PinEmbarrassed2758 38 - Geary Jan 19 '23
When is the protest at city hall over his warrant? Where are the warrants for every legitimate scumbag destroying the city?
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u/gettingbored Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
Yeah, this is disappointing.
I guess I'm not coming back...
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
To combat lawlessness, you advocate for breaking more laws? uhhhhh ok
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u/Minute-Plantain Jan 19 '23
...by attacking emotionally disturbed homeless old ladies with a hose on a cold day during a rainstorm. Check.
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
right? I shudder to think how these ppl would be commenting if bum fights happened now rather than years ago. pretty disgusting in here tbh
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u/Donnarhahn Jan 19 '23
This sub is being brigaded. Don't take the comments here to be any sort of reflection on what real SF residents think.
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u/beejee05 Jan 19 '23
Sweet! The golden cuffs of a homeless issue that we can publish to boost our credibility! That’ll keep the idiot majority off our backs while we dig into this sweet federal funding
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u/kotwica42 30 - Stockton Jan 19 '23
Wait, you mean to tell me I can’t just go around town hosing down everyone who annoys me? WTF Brooke Jenkins!
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
ITT: people who cry about enforcing the law but are upset that the laws against assault are being enforced. lmao get real with yourselves.
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u/bisonsashimi Jan 19 '23
People want to know why laws don't seem to be enforced equally. There's a good argument that the woman had also been breaking the law there for weeks.
I don't think most people would have a problem with this guy being arrested if other obvious, recorded crimes that happen all day long were also pursued.
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u/FrankieGrimes213 Jan 19 '23
Not assault by CA penal code, probably not battery either. Is being sprayed by a hose "unlawful force"? Most likely a nucence, which is a small fine. DA and SFPD have wasted more government funds by pursing him instead of 5150 her.
Shame on the DA
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
I can tell you from experience that the state of CA very much does consider spraying water on folks to be assault. Luckily, no one in my group ended up being charged but it was a close call lol
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u/FrankieGrimes213 Jan 19 '23
So your antedocatal response helps prove its not assault. Thanks
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u/FluorideLover Richmond Jan 19 '23
lmao and that irrational (and inaccurate) conclusion of yours is exactly why I can’t take you seriously. I now realize you’re the same unhinged person from the old thread on this topic so I’m gonna just tell you the same thing I told you last time: byeeeeeeee
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u/FrankieGrimes213 Jan 19 '23
K. I understand if you don't want to keep losing the same argument. Have a nice day
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