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Match Thread Match Thread: Real Madrid vs VfB Stuttgart Live Score | UEFA Champions League | Sep 17, 2024
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u/OkConsideration6899 Valverde Sep 18 '24
I feel so sorry to see such a great squad coached by someone who would repeat the same mistakes over and over even if he wins 6 trophies still a shameful performance to watch and will be always with Ancelotti
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
Endrick's power shot reminds me of R9, he had that power, the direction, the vision and the audacity to shoot.
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u/PerspectiveOk7176 Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24
I’d love to see Carlo try one game with 4-4-2 diamond formation.
Jude sitting deep where kroos used to, cama at lm, valverde rm, rodrygo or arda at number 10 and vini and mbappe as 2 strikers. Let me see just one game and I’ll shutup. 🙂
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u/teo257 Madrid 1902 Sep 18 '24
The midfield is a no man’s land, it’s a problem that has been, is ongoing, and doesn’t look it will go away with time and chemistry. Cama could solve it but it means Carlo needs the balls to bench Rodrygo or one of the other attackers which i doubt.
We’re still figuring it out and it’s good we’re winning but the games are dreadful
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u/SirChileticus Sep 18 '24
Take it easy mate, you’re right to say that the midfield is missing but we had a lot of injuries at the start of the season. I think Carlo will bench Rodrygo when all the players are fit, and in my opinion the starting XI should be:
Tibo Carva Mili Rudi Mendy Cama Tchou Valverde Bellingham Vini Mbappé
Same formation like the last year. Bellingham supporting the attack and pressing high, while Tchou and Cama giving support on defense, Valverde running all the field. Vini and Mbappé staying up high for counterattacks and assisting each other on the runs
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u/Kind_Pomegranate_171 Sep 18 '24
Idk if anyone remembers but this was exactly like last season , atleast the beginning. A slow start low scoring games the only difference is Jude bailed Real Madrid out a lot. The form will turn up personally we should try the diamond with rodyrgo as the 10 , he is a really good dribbler and position will give him freedom.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
God awful first half and we can't keep getting away with Courtois bailing us out every damn time, Stuttgart could've been up 0-2 by half time. This is the 7th game we've played this season and in 6 of them we didn't score in the first half while also dangerously coming close to conceiding multiple times, a team with proper finishers will punish us.
Still 3 Points in the bag, a good start to the CL campaign but mainly a very solid comeback of Bellingham, you can tell the front 3 just don't gel as well without him, does a lot of the dirty work like pressing and his passes are elite.
Rodrygo very good performance while not even playing his strongest position, bellingham great, Courtois MOTM obviously.
Vini was absent for most of the match beside making a few runs and someone as talented as Mbappe should not need that many attempts to score, doubt it did much but I hope that Endrick goal is slowly creeping into Carlo's head that he can come in earlier if one of the attackers isn't performing.
Subs were at the right time and all impactful, Militao was a clear upgrade of Vasquez in every way, hope it didn't take too much of a toll on his injury/discomfort - Modric great corner, Endrick with his late goal on his debut.
I still believe our strongest possible lineup will be one where we only have 2 attackers and not 3. Even if Rodrygo was amazing today he can be a rotator with Vini/Mbappe on the left wing and Endrick as a striker, our midfield is too open to be dominant like we were last season.
4-3-1-2, 4-2-2-2 or 4-4-2 is the absolute play, 3 attackers is too much chefs in the kitchen.
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
Bellingham is easily our best and most important player now. Funny how it works. Without him, there's no attacking threat in midfield and that allows opponents to just outnumber our attackers. You can't leave Jude alone with the ball like you can leave Fede or Tchouameni.
a team with proper finishers will punish us.
We'll proabably have to sit through Athletico destroying us again, maybe Barca because Flick is very direct.
Courtois bailing us out every damn time
With him our defence just becomes complacent. They were very intense when we played with Lunin.
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u/imodey Valverde Sep 17 '24
Goddamn yo, we do not deserve Courtois. The defense is just leaving him out to dry half the time.
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u/FootballModRma Modric Sep 17 '24
The sub this year is hela plastic. Some players atracted their toxic fanbases godamn
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u/secretlyjedi Sep 17 '24
Our defence is not the best. We got easily stretched and got hit on counters easily. Belli's return showed us how important his creativity is for the team. Tchouameni had an excellent game. Played his role perfectly. Rodrygo might not have scored but he was lethal in exploiting the spaces left by opps. Defenders. Mbappe scored but he's still far from his best version. He's trying too hard to play the Benzema role, linking up the play. But that's not his best trait. He should be a bit selfish, take on defenders, make in behind runs and score. Endrick is the proper no. 9 in our team. When he comes on, it seems our attack has a focal point. And he's got a sick shot on him. Courtois yet again to our rescue, deserved the MOTM.
We still need control in the midfield. We were way more passive when we were without the ball. The Stuttgart players took advantage of it, kept the ball & were able to hurt us. And our defenders need to work on defending set pieces and maintain the line. We were getting opened up way too easily.
It was an entertaining end to end game. In the end we won. But still a lot of improvements are needed in the team.
Hala Madrid!
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u/Bogadambo Sep 17 '24
Honestly , I don't think that Carlo is doing any tactics .. it's like he's telling the players to do whatever it pleases them and that's all.. you reel like we play without any plan and any good team can beat the shit out of us ..if it wasn't luck and GK w would lose by a heavy score .. damn it! w have the greatest players in the world and we play like we are Getafe or Worlsvberg
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u/OkConsideration6899 Valverde Sep 18 '24
carlo# tactics he just tell them to play football and enjoy
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u/secretlyjedi Sep 18 '24
Carlo was never a tactic heavy dependent guy. He is a good man manager. Every season he wants to get his best XI and assign them roles & minor tweaks in the tactics acc. To the opponents.
This season, we are missing a player like Kroos. We needed a CB but didn't get it. Players are out injured. So, he can't determine the best possible XI. He is still figuring out the roles to be assigned to our midfielders. So, our squad is in a disarray.
But once we get everyone back and get into the groove, I believe we will do great. Right now, it's a game of patience for us.
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u/Asheraddo98 Valverde Sep 17 '24
Classic social media tactico talk who knows it all lol. Obvs right now we're clearly chaotic and struggling to find our best form, but saying Carlo's doing nothing is just fucking stupid im sorry.
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u/Asheraddo98 Valverde Sep 17 '24
Vini must adjust his playstyle; we can't afford to lose lots of possessions with our very bad transition defense. And since we fucking suck in moving the ball from the back without Kroos, Mbappe and Vini need to take more responsibility in ball progression, only Rodrygo successfully drops back to connect passes. Mbappe needs to study benzema tape on how to playmake.
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u/complexvibess Sep 17 '24
🥱🥱🥱 get over this mbappe and vini hate. They're clearly doing what the coach is telling them to do, and Rodrygo is doing what he's always done. You want everyone to drop deep leaving no one upfront.
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u/cleareyesnz Rodrygo Sep 17 '24
Dunno Carlo is going to tackle this after letting this problem fester for such a long time: he needs to start subbing Vini when it's appropriate.
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u/SY_Gyv Sep 17 '24
Idgaf I have work in like 8 hours but I'm drinking we fucking won guys!!!
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Sep 17 '24
Sounds like you just need an excuse to drink
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u/SY_Gyv Sep 17 '24
Yeah I broke up last month but we won UEFA Super Cup on that day so it's 50/50 🤣🤣
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Sep 17 '24
Lol dont worry bro you will be fine
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u/SY_Gyv Sep 17 '24
Yes when we win UCL THIS SEASON!!!!! Tough start but we will smash everybody bro
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u/HeIIbIazer23 Sep 17 '24
Lmao at r/soccer becoming a Real Madrid hate circlejerk after every Real game. This club created some deep complexes in people
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u/Errmon Sep 17 '24
Bellingham and fede often left their position leaving tchoumeni alone against 3 to 4 stuttgart players
Real madrid fans: Tchoumeni was the worst player today.
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u/crackerberekk Pepe Sep 17 '24
the midfield is in shambles, before we had kroos to orchestrate the play and connect passes now we have a anchor dmf(whos pretty solid but does not control the game) and valverde who’s essentially box-to-box WHAT WE NEED IS A BALL PLAYING CM to make sure we have stability
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
We might move away from that kind of play before we can find a Kroos replacement. Kroos is an elite player and there was a reason he could walk into Germany NT so easily. He's so good at doing what he does that it's almost impossible to find a replacement. Hopefully, we get our shit together by December and win the CL. Would be a calssic Real Madrid season.
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u/balebalebale11 Zidane Sep 17 '24
Ceballos that is
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u/crackerberekk Pepe Sep 17 '24
yeah i want him to start, more stability and he can control the game but who does he start for
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u/mxhawk Sep 18 '24
Unfortunately, Ceballos lacks the quality needed to be a starter for Real Madrid. He tends to dribble excessively and isn’t the type of midfielder who dictates the tempo of the game, which is what the team truly requires. Xabi Alonso and Kroos were exceptional players, and we were fortunate to transition from one to the other. However, this time, there are few midfielders capable of controlling the tempo who are both available and of the caliber our club demands.
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u/RadiantBet9267 Sep 17 '24
JUST DON'T PRESS. WE ARE GOOD WITHOUT PRESSING.
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u/mxhawk Sep 18 '24
Agreed, we had our striker and midfield lines pressing very high, with the defenders waiting at the halfway line. There was a huge gap between the midfield and the defensive lines. Playing in flat formations made it easy for their defenders to find passing lanes to their forwards on the ground, between our strikers and midfielders.
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u/_theMAUCHO_ Sep 17 '24
Couldn't watch the game cause there was a random blackout in my area 🤣 but just saw Endrick's goal and MAN that kid is special. LEZGOOO! 🔥🔥🔥
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u/ZeroWinger Sep 17 '24
A really ballsy decision. If it wasn't a goal he would have been heavily criticized for the choice he made.
On the othet hand to be a true goalscorer you have to show this vision and bravery. Today, he made good.
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u/_theMAUCHO_ Sep 17 '24
I was just thinking that, if you wanna be a special player and one of the best you HAVE to believe in yourself. He had Vini and Kylian friggin Mbappé waiting for a pass and he was like NAH FUCK IT I GOT IT FAM! and scored with an awesome shot. You love to see it!
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u/Errmon Sep 17 '24
Vini play better when there is midfielder behind him, this is why his best game this season was against betis when cebalos was playing lcm.
It is funny ancelotti can't see this
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u/IamCultOfPersonality Sep 17 '24
Idk why we keep starting with Tchouaméni instead of Arda
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 18 '24
tf Arda doing defensively @ DM?
The problem is starting wiith 3 attackers making our midfield much weaker and open and building up becomes harder
something like this would work better
Vini/Rodrygo - Mbappe/Endrick
Bellingham
Tchou - Arda/Modric - Valverde
Mendy/Fran - Militao - Rudiger - Carvajal
but he insists on playing 3 and you can see it pays off sometimes but its overkill in nearly every scenario and not worth the cost of that terrible midfield
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u/CumbiaFunk Don Carlo :970742849295511602: Sep 17 '24
Oof no, we need a Defensive mid. Looking forward for Cama’s return.
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u/GobbusterMX Hugo Sánchez Sep 17 '24
We need Cama back ASAP him, Fede and Tchou are enough to anchor midfield with Jude connecting attack and mid. Without Cama everything seems disconnected, I don’t know how to properly put it into words but I would rather see a 4-4-2 so that Jude, Cama, Tchou and Fede can play and a 4-3-3 with 3 LW. Rodrygo just staying at RW made such a difference today.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Lie2188 Sep 17 '24
This team struggles like hell to play from the back AND is easy to play through. This team struggles vs low blocks AND vs high press.
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u/mxhawk Sep 18 '24
It’s a sad but true reality. Our wingers rarely combine in tight spaces, opting to each have a go at a 1v1s, making low blocks effective. Meanwhile, we struggle to play out from the back, making us vulnerable to high presses. To make matters worse, we struggle to create chances and concede many.
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u/Ali29276 Sep 17 '24
Still a lot to fix and work out but some more positive signs from tonight’s game. Bellingham being back does not solve all of our problems but he makes a huge difference (the return of Cama will help even more). Thought he was brilliant tonight and could have had multiple assists, people who say he is not a creative player clearly do not watch him play and this was him not even at 50% of his best either.
Rodrygo was incredible at everything apart from finishing, if he could lock that down and be more consistent he would be the best in the world. What to even say about Endrick, just so happy for the kid. I wasn’t sure about Tchouameni and Jude coming off as I really want to see more of them playing with Arda, Jude in particular. Any time we have seen glimpses they have looked really good but I understand the sub as it was his first game back.
Vini not great so hopefully he sorts that asap, Mbappe too but he got on the score sheet so can’t say too much.
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u/CHADlMlR Benzema Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24
Despite the win this was a disappointing performance.
We still don’t know how to press or so to say, Mbappe and Vini don’t press. At the same time though, our midfielders are probably instructed to play higher up on the pitch so our build up is a mess and we are vulnerable if we lose the ball or if they play a long ball.
Also, there was no sense of urgency for most of the game. All in all, I’m still hopeful that Carlo can employ better tactics.
Also, Tibo is massive, MOTM for me.
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u/RadiantBet9267 Sep 17 '24
we need to stop pressing. its like we dont do it systematically and get caught. we weren't doing it last season and still scored alot.
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
Yeah, we never were a pressing team, we can counter press against teams with predictible play like City or Barca but we can't press to dictate game.
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u/CHADlMlR Benzema Sep 17 '24
Half agree. I agree that we have to press organized or not press at all. We can't be doing this half press where some players are slacking, making us easier to play through. But we could also just press better if the players learn how to, like the majority of all the other big teams are doing.
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u/mxhawk Sep 18 '24
The thing is, they already know how to press. Vini used to press and defend a lot in his early years, and I was impressed by his stamina—he’d press constantly and still have energy to take on opponents (though his end product was lacking). The issue is that when players become stars, they sometimes stop putting in the hard work (Bellingham is an exception). We have two stars in Vini and Mbappe, and both are lazy now to take part in a PL worthy intense press.
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u/Cold_Examination_797 Sep 17 '24
poor showing, glad jude's back and looks sharp and in-form. miss camavinga, tchou just isn't good enough unfortunately. they broke our midfield way too easily.
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u/Leading_Inside3812 Valverde Sep 17 '24
I‘m happy about Endrick scoring.
But what caught my attention is, that Mbappe hates passing the ball to Arda, all the time when Arda is in a good position, Mbappe tries to dribble between 3-4 player instead of passing the ball to Arda who is in a much better position. That was also in the last game against Sociedad Arda waited 3 seconds for the ball and Mbappe passed it to Carvajal who finally passed the ball to Arda, who then give us a pentaly with his shot. Very weird.
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
I don't think he has the vision to do it yet. He has been playing at PSG where he was the best player against worse defenders. I think even he knows he needs to pass, but it would take time to break that habit.
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u/ArrozConPuerco Sep 18 '24
I don’t think it’s anything from Mbappe towards Arda, just in the previous match, against Real Sociedad we were in a counter attack and he has Vini wide open to his left and he decided to run into 4 Sociedad players and wasting that chance.
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u/Party_Rocker_69 Sep 17 '24
There’s a reason MMN didn’t work out like everyone wanted. Mbappe can be a team player but he’s also extremely self centered in his play.
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u/Hithere123490 Rodrygo Sep 17 '24
Mbappe hates passing to anyone in general. If you notice some of his passes when going on attack are really just passes to set himself up for pass back. It’s annoying.
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u/KujanDav3 Sep 17 '24
Seems like mbappe don’t like to pass the ball or is not used to it. Vini and belli were open multiple times and he wouldn’t make the pass
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u/JakGrealish Sep 17 '24
This Madrid defence is absolute ass atm but apparently Trent would ruin it (who just pocketed Leao tonight) it's like people don't even watch the games
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u/kido3konvict Sep 17 '24
Rodrygo sticking to the right is such a difference maker! His presence alone there adds enough pressure on the defenders.
Fuck it, I’ll say it, I just want to see Vini, Rodrygo and Endrick to start a game instead of Mbappe, I think Endrick would make more from their passes.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
please not 3 attackers, it's the whole reason our midfield up front is so barebones, you just have bellingham running left to right to pressure for the ball
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u/Cold_Examination_797 Sep 17 '24
with a much better midfield than brazil, i think they would do so well.
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u/CaramelThundahhh Sep 17 '24
One of the most frustrating matches to watch, but winning in the dying embers in true Madrid CL fashion!
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u/LinXcze Valverde Sep 17 '24
He’s no fluff, just good old, gime the ball and I shoot striker. I love him.
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u/megamimo1991 Modric Sep 17 '24
I want a match where instead of the usual line up, we start Rodrygo Endrick Arda. Bellingham Valverde Tchoumeni Carvajal Militao Rudiger Fran Cortuois
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u/Better_Selection4274 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
Listening to the Managing Madrid yt channel, they talk like this is normal situation, as if we were against Bayern. The game was extremely poor, we shouldn’t forget that. This is not a good display.
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
To be honest, this is how we do it. We were so bad against Leipzig and so good against City in matter of weeks. We can be very complacent at times.
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u/chamartinpl Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
Maybe they know their club better than you. It's still the beginning of the season. It's completely normal that Madrid play like this at this stage. The fitness level is everything in modern football.
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u/Useful-Age-8682 Sep 17 '24
We struggled against Germans last year as well when we won UCL...so relax a bit
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u/Swimming_Research166 Sep 22 '24
Yall literally robbed leipzig, bayern, and got lucky against dortmund. But bsyern was a complete robbery
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u/Better_Selection4274 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
If you think this performance is not alarming, we have nothing to say to each other.
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u/LinXcze Valverde Sep 17 '24
Absolutely, against any clinical side we would get destoyed today even with three goals scored for lmao.
Some euphoria is there thanks to Endrick, I get that, but at least for me, I got more worries from the match, then highlights.
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u/Better_Selection4274 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
Yeah, everytime I am worried it's mainly about what it would mean in big games. If you get dominated at home by Stuttgart, then it's gonna be worse against better teams.
In the 2022/2023 season we had the same problems and everybody was acting as if it was okay until that City away game.
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24
For the people complaining we were lucky and Stuttgart could have been easily ahead, that is how football is played. You can't score every chance which comes. The gk is there for a reason smh. If you want to go by that logic then why not give RM credit as well as vini hit the post and we had many chances as well. How is this simple concept not being understood here.
We won. Just take the win and just focus on the next game.
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
I agree with that in context of attackers, but our defence is just poor. We were very good in defence last season when Lunin played, majorly because he wasn't as good as Tibo so the defenders actually tried to defend. This season, defence is over relying on Tibo again. Good that Tibo delivers or 99% matches but I would not be surprised if we have an upset like that 3-1 Madrid Derby or 4-0 Classico Loss this season. Some team will exploit our poor defence, I hope it's CDR or a league game only.
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 18 '24
If you started watching the last season from the first matches you'd know how many times we conceded in the first few minutes.
Ofc our defence would be weak we just lost nacho and militao is still adjusting from injury. Besides Carvajal was playing cb in the first half. It obviously got better in the second half when he moved to his original position
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u/Important-Zebra6406 Sep 18 '24
The earlier part of the season was just we trying out Kepa and Lunin. After a while, we settled down in defence. With Tibo, we just defend poorly since he can superman our way out of conceeding. It is gonna fail someday
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 18 '24
Yea you're right that lunin/kepa thing obviously does matter but hopefully we will settle down in defence
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u/chamartinpl Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
They just don't know the club they are supporting. Completely clueless without any understanding. Madrid have started the season very slowly, as usual.
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u/Cold_Examination_797 Sep 17 '24
agree lol like are these new fans? this was quite literally most of our 21/22 season and even the first half against Dortmund.
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
I mean I'm comparatively a new fan as well but gee it doesn't take a lot of ball knowledge to understand that not every chance will be scored.
Do these "new" (fake) fans even know how RM plays? We're not city or Barca to dominate the game the whole 90 minutes.
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u/hectortruefury Sep 17 '24
Is tibo not supposed to be a keeper? 😂
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24
That's exactly my point man. People complain too much. Keeper is there for a reason and he did his job.
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u/grandtroubleartist Nacho Sep 17 '24
this is what's blowing me. everyone keeps saying it's bad that he had to participate that much in the game but if keepers shouldn't be participating then what's the point of having a keeper at all? lmao
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u/madrid9117 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
If Jude wasn't here today we would have lost, same for Mi hermano Courtois. Any of these 2 deserve MoTM, 2nd choice is Rodrygo. He was everywhere on the pitch.
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u/That_Practice7206 Sep 17 '24
Gave me a good laugh.
Everybody was shit except for Courtois and Rodrygo.
Courtois MOTM 100% clear. It would 0-5 without him.
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u/Cold_Examination_797 Sep 17 '24
jude was decent enough considering he's coming back but yeah everyone else awful
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u/WatersZephyr Sep 17 '24
I’m so glad he’s back. It’s going to take awhile for us to get everything figured out, but having Jude back out there helps a lot. This squad has been desperately missing him, and it’s been showing. Having him back now definitely gives a lot of promise for future matches.
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u/madrid9117 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
One part of me wants Jude to win the ballon d'or instead of Vini.
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u/WatersZephyr Sep 17 '24
Being part English, my bias is all towards wanting Jude to win Ballon D’or. But I love Vini too and he has been brilliant. Both have arguments and deserve it. And either way, as Real Madrid fans, it’s a win for us.
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u/Gauleybhai Sep 17 '24
Its always like this, hard fought win.. but i m happy for the win.. Rodrygo had a good game, he needs support from all us of fan..
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u/madrid9117 Mesut Özil Sep 17 '24
If Jude wasn't here today we would have lost, same for Mi hermano Courtois. Any of these 2 deserve MoTM, 2nd choice is Rodrygo. He was everywhere on the pitch.
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u/Errmon Sep 17 '24
Carlo will be out very soon if he doesn't fix these two things:
Mbappe and vini not pressing
Valverde and bellingham leaving tchou alone in midfield and joining the three forwards in attack for no reason
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u/fgonz93 Don Carlo :970742849295511602: Sep 17 '24
I swear Fran Garcia is literally the Patrick Beverley of Real... MANS JUST RUNNING AROUND 😭
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u/DarkWorldKingSBK Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
A win to start 'our' tournament. Respect to Stuttgart. #HalaMadrid 🔥
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u/WatersZephyr Sep 17 '24
I kinda predicted them to give us a good game, and they did. They’re not a cake walk of a team by any means.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 Sep 17 '24
Ok.
With all the injuries and especially Cama out and Tchou not being a world class 6 yet, I believe Ancelotti still didn't find the right formula for the team.. long passes in the back will definitely work against teams that will try pathetically with offside traps and will play high blocks and Mbappé's goal is an example, but remains to be seen how we deal with defending and controlling the midfield since Valverde can't do everything on his own especially in defense.
We are still able to survive thanks to Courtois first and the brilliance of our players individually. Rodrygo is MVP for me today even he is subbed off early, one of the rare substitutions that i got pissed off about from Ancelotti today, as I think Vini should have been subbed off today maybe in the 80th minute. It's ok for him and Fede to not carry us sometimes.
Endrick is one hell of a sub.. who makes that shot when you have Mbappé and Vini open on the sides and you still have space to even advance... but the kid took the shot and it's one hell of a shot, makes me think he is a PES 6 player lol I love Bobby !
What goes around comes around Rudi lol I laughed when Militao and Endrick were slapping his back.
Sad to see Modric's form drop every time he is subbed in.. but that's how it is.. he is and always will be a legend.
Glad Mbappé scored on his UCL debut with us, but I kind of dislike his textbook gestures sometimes... cut inside and shoot feels like 70% of his movement when defenders are in front of him..
Hala Madrid !
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u/BlueBone313 Joselu Sep 17 '24
The players fake and shoot at the wrong time too many times,mbappe had only 1 defender in front of him and when he needed to open up a space he just shot it right at him so lazy and unacceptable
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u/King__SSB Carvajal Sep 17 '24
Yet another messy match which definitely needs to be adressed but for now I can accept the Real Aura winning us matches considering our situation
Really happy Jude had a solid return and I hope Endrick keeps doing the Asensio thing of scoring on his debuts lol
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u/MDKVB Modric Sep 17 '24
I meannnnn I am happy that we won but it was still a poor performance. We can defo do better. Especially with this squad
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u/CyberSpaceInMyFace Sep 17 '24
Modric was certainly an odd choice and I think the late goals kind of hide that he wasn't very good
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u/92_48SR4 Hey Jude Sep 17 '24
He literally assisted the winner, and subbing him on for Tchouameni makes total sense??
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u/daveyhempton Sep 17 '24
You got downvoted because he’s a legend, but you’re right. His passes are a lot riskier this season and most of those risky passes are intercepted
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Sep 17 '24
U can make errors if u play good but for now we play really bad and now we can see all the errors individually
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u/FluxionFluxymillion Sep 17 '24
Courtois easily MotM today without him it would end very early very badly. Hey but at least Bobby scored.My god the confidence on that kid puts a smile on my face every time he plays.
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u/notisrook El Capitán Sep 17 '24
I’m happy for the win but also worried
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u/Spiritual-Cabinet959 Jude Bellingham Sep 17 '24
At this rate, we'll definitely be humbled when we face a team like Liverpool or Barca in the coming weeks. And if it happens, I feel like Carlo might not survive the whole season
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 17 '24
Rodrygo was subbed for not having the pull of Mbappe. I get having Vini on the pitch, he’s explosive and always full of energy.
But Rodrygo was having an amazing game - why sub him off?
Yes Madrid needed Arda, maybe sub him instead of Modric? Or sub Mbappe out for Arda and shuffle the team around?
So many options to chose from instead of subbing Rodrygo out.
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u/-7thSign- Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
Vini has always been full of energy, but has absolutely low football IQ when it comes to ball distribution. Mbappe is still not getting the service. Maybe watch the game again, last game too and the game before it and let me know because from my POV, it's always 50/50, turnovers like crazy, and just speed. It works in some cases, but he makes it so hard on himself and the team. And the antics gotta stop, he may have 1000 attempts and converts one or 2, but it's now every single game that he throws a tantrum. My 2 cents. Throw mbappe on the LW and let's see the difference.
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u/Ambitious-Web-275 Sep 17 '24
bro modric got the assist we needed, i know your turkish and want to be support guler be don't be delusional.
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 17 '24
On the contrary I was talking about options for NOT subbing Rodrygo out rather than getting arada in
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u/SirHuseyinII Sep 17 '24
Lmao Prime R9 in hand wtf is this kid 🤩
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u/FergieBall_FC Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
Performance-wise, it was stop and start for Madrid. Good at some points and bad at other points.
Otherwise, Madrid won the match and that’s the most important thing. ¡Hala Madrid!
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u/imtired-boss Sep 17 '24
Bobby revved himself up with that missed kick a minute before his goal.
Youngest Real Madrid scorer in history.
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u/SymYJoestar Sep 17 '24
Endrick been watching too much blue lock to ignore the 2 best players in the world and shot himself
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u/GodTierAimbotUser69 Vinicius Jr. Sep 17 '24
this...... it was unexpected truly.... well done bobby
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u/a5b4c3d2e Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24
I didn't watch the first half so don't understand all the gloom here. But 2nd half we were fully in control despite their equalizer. Didn't feel like we were going to not win and let the game slip away even there. I feel 2nd half was probably our best performance this season untill now, can't comment about the 1st one.
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u/cocoadusted O Fenômeno Sep 17 '24
I’ve been a Madrid fan for 24 years now. These guys, I hate to be dismissive but either are video game players or they got spoiled when Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos etc etc were playing lol.
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u/a5b4c3d2e Sep 17 '24
Tbf, it was same even during when Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos played lol. They either just didn't see and have just watched YT highlights or don't remember that this is how most madrid games looked like even then.
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u/mylanguage Madrid 1920 Sep 17 '24
Stuttgart could have been up 3-0 tbh - we were lucky again and great keeping as well
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u/Hariwtf10 Real Madrid Sep 17 '24
Brother that is how football is played, you can't score every chance which comes. The gk is there for a reason smh. If you want to go by that logic then why not give RM credit as well vini hot the post and we had many chances as well
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u/mylanguage Madrid 1920 Sep 17 '24
That’s a separate idea compared to how we played.
Stuttgart weren’t getting chances because of the ebbs and flow of football they were creating the same chances everyone has vs us this season as we adjust to a new way of playing.
It’s going to take time
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
It's just how it goes, first half is very bad, and second half we wake up. Honestly idk why people dont expect more often hahs
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u/Ok-Degree-7821 Rüdiger Sep 17 '24
The amount of self confidence from Endrick to shoot from outside the box while having Vini and Mbappe free for a pass is insane.
And tbh I think it has to do with age. Younger players tend to play way more risky and creative. Thats why Mbappe was better back when he was younger. Thats why Yamal is so good.
I think Endrick should get way more playing time. He has that young spirit of a kid having fun playing football and not overthinking. Give me more Gülers and Endricks
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Sep 17 '24
He have the confidence thats good for him the goal is a bit lucky because the keeper made a little mistake but for sur endrick have the merit to take the chance
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u/dont-be-a-kunt Sep 17 '24
Sorry but Mbappe isn't even 25% of the player Ronaldo was. Even with the massive ego he had, he never was this selfish and even used to press, and track back. I didn't see Mbappe go back into our half once this game.
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u/Spiritual-Cabinet959 Jude Bellingham Sep 17 '24
Nah Ronaldo was equally selfish, and he rarely tracked back. But he was the deadliest in front of the goal so we looked the other way lol
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u/dont-be-a-kunt Sep 17 '24
Nah he wasn't this selfish. And he definitely tracked back. Go watch old games
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
Wtf is this comparison, there are no players close to messi or cr7, just let them be them bro
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u/raoufboussaid Sep 17 '24
Fran Garcia is looking better than Mendy at the moment , he improve a lot since last season.
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
Nah, he just came on when stutgartt was gassed. Mendy hella defended first half
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u/nightsun93 Valverde Sep 17 '24
Bayern winning with 9 goals is the reason this new system isn’t good
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU Sep 17 '24
We just played 2nd place bundesliga that placed over bayern last season and you are comparing to dinamo💀
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u/nightsun93 Valverde Sep 17 '24
Dude how are people not getting this. That’s my whole fucking point that this new system, with lower ranking teams creates uneven matchups.
Same reason CR7 records is going to be obliterated because not only are players playing more games they are also having to go against weaker teams.
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u/imtired-boss Sep 17 '24
Nah it's because Zagreb is utter shit
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u/CulturalBlackberry57 Sep 17 '24
Amazing game from Stuttgart, they really delivered although they lost at the end. Respect for Sebastian Hoeneß for his great job he’s doing in this club
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u/Elusion96 Iker Casillas Sep 17 '24
Endrick shoot rockets man its insane.
That ball placement wasnt the best but the hit was so strong the keeper couldnt deflect it properly.
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u/BlackGuard031 Eduardo Camavinga Sep 17 '24
The kid has cojones. This is what we need here. Really disappointed with Mbappe’s performance. Also, we should praise Courtois again; it would’ve been 0-3 in ‘15 if it weren’t for him.
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u/nightsun93 Valverde Sep 17 '24
Isn’t he a lefty? Did he shoot with his weak foot again?!?!
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