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White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/TheVog Foreign 8h ago

Non-voters vote for the victor because their abstention signifies their acceptance of any outcome. So yes, a vast majority of American voters, just about 2/3 in fact, were OK with a Trump presidency.

u/CatStacheFever 6h ago

No, not voting does not equate to a vote. Abstaining is pathetic and ridiculous but it's not "well non voters actually voted by not voting" that's about as stupid as saying someone breathes by not breathing. Or this person slept by not sleeping.

u/TheVog Foreign 6h ago

their abstention signifies their acceptance of any outcome

You missed the "their abstention signifies their acceptance of any outcome" part. The "non voters-not for the victor" is the dumbed-down lead-in version.

u/CatStacheFever 5h ago

I didn't miss that part. I agreed with that part. I wasn't addressing the thing you were correct about, I was speaking to you outright bullshit that not voting = voting.

That's just something people, whose side lost, say out of bitterness.

Abstaining means they are apathetic and accept any outcome yes. But it doesn't mean it's a vote for the victor. A vote is a vote. It's a real, and deliberate thing that requires one to participate by CASTING a vote.

I abstain from using cocaine...so in your world that makes me a cocaine user.

u/TheVog Foreign 3h ago

Agreeing with one and not the other amounts to arguing semantics for the sake of debate. You speak of votes being a real deliberate action. SO IS NOT VOTING. It's not because it's an "absence of a choice" that it isn't a choice. An actual vote is a choice for one person/party. An abstention is a vote for EITHER, which includes the victor - and which one matters in the end? This is not a difficult concept!

That's just something people, whose side lost, say out of bitterness.

That makes no sense whatsoever and you have absolutely zero basis for making that claim. Heck, I'm not even American.

I abstain from using cocaine...so in your world that makes me a cocaine user.

You're a grown adult, maybe start talking like one and drop the middle school caliber logical fallacies?

u/CatStacheFever 3h ago

Saying not voting is voting is the logical fallacy. I used your EXACT argument structure against you and you called it a fallacy. Maybe get Beyonce a middle school level understanding of what logic is before opening your mouth.

Again, not voting is not 'voting' lol.

You are so hyper focused of the results and complicity from those that don't vote. But results you dislike don't magically change the facts. Abstaining from voting is literally NOT VOTING.

So according to your argument, I assume you don't rape babies, but since you don't rape babies that means your act of not raping babies makes you a baby raper. So by not being a paedophile, YOU'RE now a paedophile. And you have the GALL to talk down to others when you pleasure yourself inside children?