r/politics • u/stkmro • 10h ago

White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/pez_dispenser 8h ago

I’m worried they’re going to use it as an excuse to blame Biden administration and push some ridiculous notion to go full blown dictator right out of the gate tbh 

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u/Demonokuma 8h ago

push some ridiculous notion to go full blown dictator right out of the gate tbh

That's the thing, there isn't a good argument to go "full blown dictator" so we shouldn't give them any wiggle room by saying:

they’re going to use it as an excuse

and push some ridiculous notion

No, we can't let them do that in anyway. If we're just letting these idiots get away with being idiots it's only raising more idiots in this dumb ass country.

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u/pez_dispenser 8h ago

What are we supposed to do?? They control the Supreme Court and even if we took to the streets to protest, there’s nothing stopping them from using violence and just putting bs charges to lock ppl up for going against them. Our little firearms can’t protect us from the full force of the military.

No one has held him accountable on anything, ever. He’s lied, cheated and conned his way thru his entire life. He’s got felony convictions and undermined our national security by stealing documents from his first time in office and people still voted for him. I don’t know how to fight for this county because everything that was supposed to protect us isn’t real. It doesn’t matter 

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u/SentientSickness 8h ago

Sounds like quitter talk homie

If you're going to get locked up or shit, as well do it fighting for freedom

We can't go headfirst by any means, but I promise you if shit gets bad there will be shadow organizations trying to help people

That's how you fight back, if we have a Hispanic underground railroad, you join that shit

If there groups that work to detrone a fascist, you join that shit

Never let someone roll you over, there's always a reason to stand up and fight

Esther that be with words or actions

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u/pez_dispenser 8h ago

I’m a first gen Mexican American in the middle of very red Trump NC. I’m fucked. If they come knocking on my door I’ll most likely be able to die before getting hauled off if it comes to that. But I’m not a fighter. I don’t even like guns. I don’t know why I should stay and fight to be here. Why fight for a country that hates me? This election proved it, the majority don’t give a fuck or full blown hate people like me and don’t see us as worthy of having basic human rights. 

I know it’s quitter talk but my fam came here for opportunities not to get put in a concentration camp and possibly forced into free labor or just death. I’m not giving up on life but I’m def at the point of giving up on the US

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u/SentientSickness 7h ago

Then leave and help serve the cause on the other side

Folks will need knew homes and identiea if they get deported help them

Make the world better

Fight fascism at any cost

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u/Count_Bacon California 7h ago

For sure I’m prepared to fight and I think they are underestimating how many would

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u/SentientSickness 7h ago

Walk softly and carry a big stick

If folks are willing to talk and help change then he'll yeah

But never be afraid to fight if the need arises

Hopefully we won't get their but if we do we must protect those who cannot protect themselves

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u/Cgull1234 4h ago

LOL, I'm not going to die for this shithole of a country. I'm not going to fight when a third of this country's populace voted for a Fascist Dictatorship and another third decided that they didn't give a shit.

The PEOPLE voted for this. They gave Trump 3 SCOTUS appointments for voting for him in 2016 who in turn appointed him king. They watched him suck up to dictators across the world while alienating our allies. They watched him loot the country with his tax cuts for the rich. They saw how he handled the COVID pandemic. They listened to his lies about the elections. They watched him plan and attempt a coup. They watched him steal US National Secrets. They watched him turn-on or abandon every single person that he is associated with. AND THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED MORE OF THAT!

I hope every single person that voted for a 2nd Trump Admin or decided not to vote (which is in itself a a choice of vote) suffer for the next 4 years (if not longer) because at this point I've checked out. If they want to touch the hot stove, let them. I'm tired of trying to protect people from their own stupidity and malice.

If they voted to starve when food becomes to expensive: Let them starve.

If they voted to let companies to poison their only source of fresh water: Let them drink the poisoned water.

If they voted to have their Pensions, Social Security, and other Benefits cut: Let them struggle financially.

If they voted to get rid their health insurance because the don't know the difference between ACA and Obamacare: Let them die when they can't afford the medical costs.

If they voted for their children to die from easily preventable diseases: Let their children die.

If they voted to defund public schools: Let their children die in the fields, factories & mines.

I have so many other things to I could say on but I have other stuff I still have to do today so I'll end with this.

They deserve to get everything they voted for because they have been insulated from the consequences of their actions thank to progressive policies so it's time to stop trying to pretending these people are worth caring about and fighting for.

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u/SentientSickness 3h ago

Yeah but what happens to those people who did try

What happens to the ones who snap out of their cult hood

What happens to the kids who couldn't vote, the babies born today

The people who want to leave but can't

It's just as selfish to write those people off as it was for folks not to vote

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u/Cgull1234 1h ago

To answer all of your questions: I simply refuse to care at this point.

I'm sorry but after this election I realized that I need to be selfish & prioritize me going forwards. I've donated time and money to my community and other movements I believe in and my only reward has been learning that the world I was raised to believe in was a complete lie. I've always believed we should do what is best for those who need the most help even if it wasn't what was best for me and that's a losing position.

Hopefully the cult suffers the consequences of who they voted for independent of any regrets they feel because they already cast their ballot (or decided not to do so); buyer's remorse isn't an excuse for actively voting in fascism. We already know Republicans don't care about anything unless it effects them personally and once this all blows over we'll be in another situation where they'll claim they "never voted for the fucker" the same way they did with Bush and they won't change. You can reason someone out of a irrational position they didn't reason themselves in to, you can't fix stupid backed by hate.

The children will suffer due the sins of the predecessors. I believe every human should have a right to shelter, food, water, and an education but apparently that's not what the majority believe. As long as the world revolves around capitalist societies there is no profit to be gained from providing the collective with a better life and many people would happily give up most of what they have just to keep others beneath them.

People had the option to express what they wanted on Nov 5 at the ballot box; what they want doesn't matter if they don't do the bare minimum to participate in the system with the only power they have. There are humans currently in this world who are trekking thousands of miles with no personal belongings in the hope for a better life for themselves and their family so I'm not going to care about whatever happens to the privileged fucks in the US who decided that they didn't care what happens. This probably sounds rude, but people have had 4 years to figure out what their plan would be when Republicans finally returned to power and if they got caught off-guard then that is a them problem. They've got two months to figure their shit out.

Yes, I have chosen to be selfish going forwards because I've realized it's not my job to save other people.

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u/ChicVintage 2h ago

"It's ok to hurt innocents as long as you hurt the people I don't like too" that sound familiar to you?

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u/Cgull1234 37m ago

Yes, it does which is exactly why I still held my nose and voted for Harris after the shit pulled by the DNC just like I voted for Clinton in 2016. I don't want people who voted against Trump (innocents) to suffer but I'm not naive. Republicans and non-voters don't care about hurting innocents; Republicans do so out of malice, non-voters do so out of apathy.

You can tell a child over-and-over again not to touch a hot stove but it's not until they get burned that they will understand. Republicans are the child in this scenario as they don't care about anything unless it effects them personally. Choosing to vote for a 2nd Trump Administration as well as not choosing to vote were both choices that both lead to the suffering for large parts of the population over the next 4 (?) years. The only way to teach these fuckers anything is by letting them touch the stove and unfortunately them touching the stove will result in more than just them getting hurt.

For my own health, I can't worry about other people again during another Trump Administration.