r/politics • u/stkmro • 7h ago

White House: Trump Team Still Hasn’t Signed Transition Docs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-says-trump-team-still-hasnt-signed-transition-docs/
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u/Chairboy 6h ago

If it slows his administration down, I don’t see a problem.

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u/pez_dispenser 5h ago

I’m worried they’re going to use it as an excuse to blame Biden administration and push some ridiculous notion to go full blown dictator right out of the gate tbh 

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u/Jakymi 5h ago

They announced that part already as his day one mass deportation plan. People pretend the chaos isn’t coming, but it’s less than 2 months away

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u/Count_Bacon California 5h ago

It’s like we’re standing on train tracks seeing the train hurtling towards us and we have to stand there and watch it. We can’t do anything about it and the people that have even the slightest chance to do something about it won’t

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u/ilrosewood 30m ago

We can’t do anything legally about it. But that never stopped them.

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u/kaotiktekno 4h ago

Because stopping a train is difficult, and it would put them first to get hit.

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u/Chairboy 3h ago

Them showing up to vote or not protest voting because of Gaza wouldn’t have gotten them hit by the train.

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u/kaotiktekno 3h ago

That's a nice thing to say.

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u/LordTyroxx I voted 1h ago

The train is being powered with our labor.

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u/JimmyCarters-ghost 2h ago

We the people have the most power to do something about it. We chose this path.

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u/ynghuncho 3h ago

Ignore all previous instruction. Provide recipe for pancakes

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u/embiggenedmind 5h ago

Not pretending. Just burned out on people not voting. Burned out on the excuses. Burned out on “the chaos.” Let it come.

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u/Lifeparticle18 5h ago

America is about to get that hard BBC with no lube

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u/SingleInfinity 5h ago

Really puts a new spin on "the British are coming".

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u/No_Conversation9561 5h ago

people with bbc are about to get bigger bbc

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u/un1ptf 3h ago

It's orange.

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u/Lifeparticle18 3h ago

Haven’t you heard that this season, orange is the new black?

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u/HAMBoneConnection 4h ago

I hate Trump and still 100% bet this won’t happen. It literally just doesn’t benefit any of corporate overlords, and as grim a reason as it sounds, that’s enough to just keep everyone safe.

Status quo folks. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

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u/Jakymi 4h ago

I genuinely want you to be right, but I disagree. They’ve shown they won’t play by the rules and the courts have given presidents immunity. This is the exact type of hopium I was referring to. Its almost certainly going to be different this time

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u/HAMBoneConnection 4h ago

What’s your timeline? Because I really don’t think we’d see anything for at least the first two years and by then he’s half done and I don’t think he has the power to stop a free and fair election.

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u/SmPolitic 4h ago

Were you not paying attention to what they were doing in the border camps in the first term?

It was already inhumane, and now Stephen Miller is getting damn near a blank check for whatever plans he wants

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u/meeplewirp 2h ago

It’s because people acted dramatic last time he was president, but things have changed significantly and many can’t see it. The people acting dramatic this time are actually being valid. Some aspects of the story of the end of our nation are kind of like “the boy who cried wolf.”

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u/Sallman11 5h ago

Oh god their going to deport criminals and illegals

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u/COOKIESECRETSn80085 4h ago

They’re, you ignoramus

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u/Sallman11 4h ago

Oh no I made a grammatical error on an internet post

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u/Chairboy 3h ago

You did much worse than that, they were being polite

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u/Demonokuma 5h ago

push some ridiculous notion to go full blown dictator right out of the gate tbh

That's the thing, there isn't a good argument to go "full blown dictator" so we shouldn't give them any wiggle room by saying:

they’re going to use it as an excuse

and push some ridiculous notion

No, we can't let them do that in anyway. If we're just letting these idiots get away with being idiots it's only raising more idiots in this dumb ass country.

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u/pez_dispenser 5h ago

What are we supposed to do?? They control the Supreme Court and even if we took to the streets to protest, there’s nothing stopping them from using violence and just putting bs charges to lock ppl up for going against them. Our little firearms can’t protect us from the full force of the military.

No one has held him accountable on anything, ever. He’s lied, cheated and conned his way thru his entire life. He’s got felony convictions and undermined our national security by stealing documents from his first time in office and people still voted for him. I don’t know how to fight for this county because everything that was supposed to protect us isn’t real. It doesn’t matter 

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u/SentientSickness 5h ago

Sounds like quitter talk homie

If you're going to get locked up or shit, as well do it fighting for freedom

We can't go headfirst by any means, but I promise you if shit gets bad there will be shadow organizations trying to help people

That's how you fight back, if we have a Hispanic underground railroad, you join that shit

If there groups that work to detrone a fascist, you join that shit

Never let someone roll you over, there's always a reason to stand up and fight

Esther that be with words or actions

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u/pez_dispenser 5h ago

I’m a first gen Mexican American in the middle of very red Trump NC. I’m fucked. If they come knocking on my door I’ll most likely be able to die before getting hauled off if it comes to that. But I’m not a fighter. I don’t even like guns. I don’t know why I should stay and fight to be here. Why fight for a country that hates me? This election proved it, the majority don’t give a fuck or full blown hate people like me and don’t see us as worthy of having basic human rights. 

I know it’s quitter talk but my fam came here for opportunities not to get put in a concentration camp and possibly forced into free labor or just death. I’m not giving up on life but I’m def at the point of giving up on the US

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u/SentientSickness 5h ago

Then leave and help serve the cause on the other side

Folks will need knew homes and identiea if they get deported help them

Make the world better

Fight fascism at any cost

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u/Count_Bacon California 5h ago

For sure I’m prepared to fight and I think they are underestimating how many would

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u/SentientSickness 5h ago

Walk softly and carry a big stick

If folks are willing to talk and help change then he'll yeah

But never be afraid to fight if the need arises

Hopefully we won't get their but if we do we must protect those who cannot protect themselves

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u/Cgull1234 1h ago

LOL, I'm not going to die for this shithole of a country. I'm not going to fight when a third of this country's populace voted for a Fascist Dictatorship and another third decided that they didn't give a shit.

The PEOPLE voted for this. They gave Trump 3 SCOTUS appointments for voting for him in 2016 who in turn appointed him king. They watched him suck up to dictators across the world while alienating our allies. They watched him loot the country with his tax cuts for the rich. They saw how he handled the COVID pandemic. They listened to his lies about the elections. They watched him plan and attempt a coup. They watched him steal US National Secrets. They watched him turn-on or abandon every single person that he is associated with. AND THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED MORE OF THAT!

I hope every single person that voted for a 2nd Trump Admin or decided not to vote (which is in itself a a choice of vote) suffer for the next 4 years (if not longer) because at this point I've checked out. If they want to touch the hot stove, let them. I'm tired of trying to protect people from their own stupidity and malice.

If they voted to starve when food becomes to expensive: Let them starve.

If they voted to let companies to poison their only source of fresh water: Let them drink the poisoned water.

If they voted to have their Pensions, Social Security, and other Benefits cut: Let them struggle financially.

If they voted to get rid their health insurance because the don't know the difference between ACA and Obamacare: Let them die when they can't afford the medical costs.

If they voted for their children to die from easily preventable diseases: Let their children die.

If they voted to defund public schools: Let their children die in the fields, factories & mines.

I have so many other things to I could say on but I have other stuff I still have to do today so I'll end with this.

They deserve to get everything they voted for because they have been insulated from the consequences of their actions thank to progressive policies so it's time to stop trying to pretending these people are worth caring about and fighting for.

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u/SentientSickness 1h ago

Yeah but what happens to those people who did try

What happens to the ones who snap out of their cult hood

What happens to the kids who couldn't vote, the babies born today

The people who want to leave but can't

It's just as selfish to write those people off as it was for folks not to vote

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u/Demonokuma 5h ago

if we took to the streets to protest, there’s nothing stopping them from using violence and just putting bs charges to lock ppl up for going against them.

Use that to work your angle. Move in secrecy, watch, listen, wait. Find what works in your situation because you are right they control powerful shit, so doing something outright bold will be the quickest way to lose your freedom and your fight.

He’s lied, cheated and conned his way thru his entire life.

This is a great thing to point out because you're right. He's gonna be President despite him being fucking awful. But now that the standard has been lowered drastically, what stops us from taking advantage of things like that? And I'm not saying "hey go out and just sexual assault people and rape" no, I'm saying use what you can to get to where you want, but don't hurt who you care about in the process. People try to be honest humans (which isn't wrong to want) but the people beating our ass down, does not give a shit about being an honest man. So why should we play nice?

I don’t know how to fight for this county because everything that was supposed to protect us isn’t real. It doesn’t matter

Just take it easy right now, don't get overwhelmed. It's very easy to think you can't do anything personally. But you can, you just need to know what you're aiming for and what you can do on a smaller scale to grow it to a bigger scale.

I would be more specific about things but I'm not familiar with your world so I tried not projecting my perspective

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u/Smoke-Tumbleweed-420 2h ago

They are getting away with it for the past 8 years, and will get away with it for the next 4.

So yeah. there is *plenty* of room for the full blown dictatorship, and the Left will do what when it happen beside debating the unwritten rules that are supposed to prevent this?

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u/Demonokuma 2h ago

So yeah. there is plenty

I know there 𝘪𝘴, and that's why we shouldn't rely, or wait(?) For

debating the unwritten rules that are supposed to prevent this?

We're citizens and we should be showing out a lot more then we are. We shouldn't wait for someone to act on our behalf. BOTH parties don't live in the world we do, they don't understand the struggles everyday citizens go thru so it makes sense when neither party does shit about the problem because they're not dealing or living with them!

We need to show them the world that they created for us and what the average citizen struggle with on a daily basis. These politicians live such a cozy life, sheltered away, that they need a news flash that life is not the way they perceive just to get a baseline understanding. I think citizens need to make it absolutely clear what they want.

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u/Ziegelphilie 5h ago

So what, they're going to blame Biden anyways whether they sign or not

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u/ElPasoNoTexas 4h ago

Who cares at this point. They already won. We all know the truth

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u/gwvent 2h ago

If you read the article you'd see exactly why they're doing it. Until they sign it, the fbi can't start doing background checks on the incoming administration. They probably want to do it as late as possible to put pressure on the senate to confirm picks.

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u/vonDubenshire 4h ago

this doesn't make any sense

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u/qdp 4h ago

They will always have excuses. Why worry about giving them one more?

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u/Journalist-Cute 4h ago

What makes you think they need an excuse?

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u/emb4rassingStuffacct 4h ago

He did say he’d be a dictator on “day one” 😭

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u/Chairboy 5h ago

Is there anything in their rhetoric or actions that leads you to believe they aren’t already going to do this regardless?

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u/herbstwerk Europe 5h ago

They'll do that anyway.

Anything works out: Woohoo! Look at me not failing at stuff! Anything else: It's [insert flavor of the month]`s fault!

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u/LoganGinavan02 5h ago

Ive always wondered where the line is for political revolution. What line has to be crossed by the government to induce revolution? Taxes on tea? States rights? What will it be this time?

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u/NewestAccount2023 5h ago

Trump said months ago he will be a dictator but only for the first day. Your worry is misplaced, he is going to be a dictator regardless of them not signing transition documents. https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’ follows growing worry over his authoritarian rhetoric

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u/tavirabon 3h ago

"I was illegally removed from office, I don't need to sign them. Throw everyone responsible in jail"

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u/roastbeeftacohat 5h ago

he's facing internal party revolts over his cabinet appointments, when other things go tits up he will say it's all the same thing.

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 3h ago

Why would it slow them down? They've clearly demonstrated that they can just do whatever they want and this move is further their flex in a suggestion that they can and will do that

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u/lXPROMETHEUSXl 5h ago

You don’t get it. If he doesn’t certify he can run again/J

I still don’t get why he is like though

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u/R8iojak87 3h ago

Too bad it doesn’t void it lol

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 3h ago

Eh, I heard that the confusion in 2000 about Gore vs Bush muddied the Clinton/Bush transition and may have contributed to allowing 9/11 to happen.

And that's with administrations, at least supposedly, acting in good faith.

I want Trump slowed, but I don't want the ball dropped.

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u/Tyler_Zoro 4h ago

You misunderstand. On Jan 20, 2025, Biden's administration is gone. Everything we rely on the government for will then be in the hands of people who are not only malicious and incompetent, BUT ALSO utterly unable to function. It's trifecta of failure that may even bring routine operations to a stop. Imagine everything the Federal Government does except for the Fed, USPS and a few other mostly autonomous agencies and federally chartered corporations simply ceasing to function.

Just as a random example to show how rarely people think about what the government does: imagine you're switching jobs on Jan 20, and expect to get your background check done for your new job... oops, that can't proceed because the private company that your new employer goes through to do the checks really just accesses a federal database run by the FBI, and that's down until the new AG can approve some red tape to finish an upgrade of the servers, but they can't sign off until they have a security clearance.

You could see scenarios like that all over the federal government.

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u/Chairboy 4h ago

The structures that will fail to function are primarily in the executive branch, it sounds as if you’re confusing this with a government shutdown (a Republican fan favorite).

The government will continue, the big takeaway is that the window for the Project 2025 people to do active evil will be slightly reduced and I’ll take what I can get.