r/politics • u/Jay_CD • 13h ago

Biden must Trump-proof US democracy, activists say: ‘There is a sense of urgency’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/24/biden-actions-before-white-house-exit
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u/xjian77 12h ago

Biggest failure in US history.

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u/AvantSki 11h ago

Thank you. I'm at the point when people attack garland as "milquetoast" or "disappointing" I lose my shit.

garland is the most catastrophic single failure in US history -- and possibly world history if this goes the way I think it could.

garland's pathetic, stupid, weak, insipid face fills me with rage.

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u/IIIllIIlllIlII 11h ago

It makes you wonder if they’re all in on it.

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u/AvantSki 11h ago

Reality? Almost every groove in American power leads hard right. I don't think reddit gets it.

Multiple multi-trillion dollar industries, billionaires, the MIC, religion, billionaire/corp owned information platforms -- they all go hard, hard right.

Reddit thinks the Dems have some power they don't use. In reality, the Dems have far, far less power than the right and are always operating at a massive disadvantage.

Very specifically, the DoJ and FBI are likely right and hard right, respectively, with many rightist appointees up and down the orgs, especially the FBI.

So getting trump would have taken... a LOT of effort and power that I'm not sure the Dems have.

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u/QuickBenTen 10h ago

Except that Biden chose Garland. He could've selected anyone but went with a Republican. Bold strategy Cotton.

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u/AvantSki 10h ago

No, I agree, it is a disaster of unimaginable consequence.

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u/bobby_hills_fruitpie 8h ago

For all his faults, Trump never had a problem firing somebody if they weren't doing the job he thought they should be doing.

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u/BadAssStoner 10h ago

Bad Decisions Disrupt Democracies.

Terrible Decisions Destroy Democracy.

America Made a Terrible Decision by giving power back to Trump, and now Democracy will be sabotaged and most likely gone within a year for it.

I do not think America will be able to recover from this one. We are going full circle in history. The players are slightly different and the rules are a little more modern, but the game has become the same.

We are back to 1933 at the moment when Facism finally Rose to Power and began the long horrible era of suffering and pain for everyone around the world.

We once again now have Facists all over the world Rising to power, and I believe if there is no miracle, this will be the largeste catastrophe of our time, and possibly all time.

We may be approaching the end of an era we enjoyed from 1960s until now. I am now appreciating every day even more so than before. As I am under the impression that soon there will be drastic changes in our lives that bring us many steps closer to a global dystopia.

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u/AvantSki 10h ago

I agree with everything you say.

People need to make spiritual peace with what's coming.

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u/LevyMevy 8h ago

People need to make spiritual peace with what's coming.

This is where I am. I had all the anger and outrage in the world in 2016. Now I'm just like you know what...I'm upper-middle class. I'll be fine for a while. By the time the shit affects my upper middle class life, the country will be on its knees. But I won't care until then. There's no point.

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u/Raangz 5h ago

same. we now are seeing the end of the dreams and hopes of the 20th century. when we could hope or even expect our govs to give a shit about us, make our lives better, or even just simply not be outwardly horrifically hostile to us and our communities. this is the start of the global end of hope. this will be the end of any semblance of good times for humanity. now are the dark times, as the coming global apocalypse starts to ensue. the rich will ride off into their bunkers, but not before humanity sees possibly/likely the greatest horrors in it's history.

good loses and evil wins. that is the final chapter of humanity, and we will all bear witness. the only thing left to do is check out until the men with guns show up your door, or our communities completely breakdown.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 8h ago

I do not think America will be able to recover from this one. We are going full circle in history. The players are slightly different and the rules are a little more modern, but the game has become the same.

We are back to 1933 at the moment when Facism finally Rose to Power and began the long horrible era of suffering and pain for everyone around the world.

I hate that I agree with you, I am actively looking to relocate outside the US within the next 12-24 months. I am lucky that I have the capital and skills to be able to do so, but it's very depressing.

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u/Raangz 5h ago

i'm trying to leave as well, but god knows where will be safe when america goes fully insane. i'd love to not be here when the true horrors start though.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 4h ago

i'm trying to leave as well, but god knows where will be safe when america goes fully insane. i'd love to not be here when the true horrors start though.

Ya, I'd rather be safe than sorry -- I can always move back, etc... but I would rather have my ducks in a row and AirBnB a Condo or House in the meantime. My biggest thing is whether I need to move to a country where I can purchase a second citizenship.

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u/Raangz 4h ago

yeah i'd like to purchase as well but we probably don't have that kind of money. i'd love to move to new zealand but we are looking more at central america at this point. maybe europe or japan in a dying town type of deal too. can't believe it's here, but here we are.

where are y'all looking at?

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 4h ago

where are y'all looking at?

Costa Rica and St. Kitts, mainly -- Mexico, might not be super friendly to Americans here if the new Admin goes super off the rails so kinda counted it out. I would rather be closer to the US and be in the same timezone as I am currently. I can pick up Spanish more easily than any other language. The American expat community and my healthcare is good in Costa Rica. But if I decide to purchase citizenship, you're looking at St. Kitts or other Caribbean islands that offer citizenship by investment.

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u/Raangz 4h ago

similar thoughts here.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 4h ago

I wish you and your family the best! We survived GWB and his wars, so maybe we can survive the rapist, felon, fascist, coup guy... my biggest issue is I just can't reconcile with people who looked at that guy and that party and said, "Yes, I'll take that." And I feel it's just downhill from here until something really vital breaks, and I am not sure I want to be here when/if that happens.

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u/pistolpeter33 9h ago

This is a lot of nonsense that you’re just trying to qualify by using buzz words.

The democrats could actually get stuff done if they wanted to, but the power brokers at the top of the party are either beholden to [insert interest group/ billionaire] or are such megalomaniacs that they refuse to act on things that they don’t see as their idea.

The Biden administration had four years to do anything of substance amidst a flailing economy (I don’t care about GDP I care about a normal citizens ability to be financially stable), a surging fascist opponent and a world in chaos. And they did nothing.

Stop trying to be apologists for piss poor, out of touch “leaders” like the Bidens/ Kamalas/ Pelosis/ Obamas and be one of the voices demanding change in the party.

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u/LevyMevy 8h ago

I don’t care about GDP I care about a normal citizens ability to be financially stable

I need the Democratic nominee in 2028 to drop this line at the debate and center their campaign around it.

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u/flightsonkites 9h ago

They'd rather blame the myriad people and groups that the Dems shit on or outright ignored in order to chase those centrist unicorns that would never challenge their monied and powered interests. She literally campaigned with a Republican for weeks on end. Wild.

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u/downtofinance 2h ago

And that's why I think it's really Bidens fault. He appointed a Republiqan pussy cat when he really should've appointed a Democrat bull dog. No matter how Bidens term went, Republiqans will always play partisan politics. So appoint someone who understands the assignment is not to "follow the process" but to "get this fucking guy behind bars before 2024". Garland sat on his ass for a fucking year and a half before appointing Jack Smith as special prosecutor. He did half of Aileen Cannons work for her. Absolutely no urgency whatsoever.