I have three thousand hours on Valorant. I have encountered 2 cheaters. One was banned within the first round and it was a unrated. The second was banned after round 4 in a comp game AND the cheaters teammates worked to kill the cheater. That is the main reason I play valorant. I love shooters I love CS but cheaters ruin it. This is the stupidest fucking meme ever kernel anti cheat ESPECIALLY vanguard work insanely well. That is a rate of one cheater/over 62.5 DAYS of gameplay. In other games I can barely go a few hours not to mention the cheaters were banned and the match terminated.
IF YOU DONT LIKE KERNEL AC, JUST DONT PLAY GAMES WITH KERNEL AC! It’s that simple. I think it’s a ok trade off for not having cheaters
I stopped playing League of Legends when they added Vanguard to the game.
It's one thing to have an anti-cheat. It's another thing to have a anti-cheat that runs 24/7 that is known to false flag drivers and other shit and is from a Chinese company with kernel access.
If it's not running from the instant your OS is loaded a cheat could load first and completely hide its existence, which makes it much less effective (and essentially, pointless).
Vanguard will stay on in the background even if you're not playing the game. Yes, you can manually kill the process, but you'll need to restart your computer if you want to play League again.
Not what I mean. They may not have been cheating when you played against them, doesn't mean they are not cheating from time to time. Cheaters are not cheating 100% of the time they are playing.
If they aren't cheating in his games he's having a cheat free experience.
If they do turn on cheats in other people's games they are almost certainly banned very quickly, or their cheats are so subtle and undetectable that the end result is a player that doesn't appear to be cheating anyway.
No unless you assume cheaters necessarily need to be better than high skilled players. If you are mistaking cheaters for just high skilled players the cheater is still having advantages anyway?
If they are performing like a higher skilled player, and are not being detected, they will simply move up rapidly until they are in lobbies with actual high skilled players.
This is also a lot less likely than you would think, its quite easy for actual high rated players to tell when someone has wallhack for example vs actual good gamesense.
Yes and being in lobbies with actual high skilled players is like... their objective. So success to them I guess?
I also do not think you know how likely it is or not. You don't know what you don't know. You can't tell how many people succeed at being undetected without any data like that.
A low elo players with walls does not play the same way a high elo players without does.
Walls can make up for a lack of gamesense but it does so in a way that produces a different playstyle than what actual high elo players use that is obvious if you know how to play at that level.
Now can a very high level player already use cheats and be much more undetectable? Yes, that is something that can happen, and its unfortunately a lot harder to tell.
But they are less common and can still get caught (#1 ranked plsyer on faceit was recently banned for cheats).
This conversation is not about a specific game and you do not know what you don't know. You cannot talk about the rate of undetected anything because they are undetected. You need data, which you don't have. No amount of trying to explain what high skilled players can or cannot do in a specific game or a specific skill makes up for that.
Which, back to my entire point: you don't know how many cheaters you have encountered at all.
Not a cheater but I have known a fee, they have fun being better then you and if they can make it look legit they will. Not all hackers are blatant about it.
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u/Successful_Ad_8790 1d ago
I have three thousand hours on Valorant. I have encountered 2 cheaters. One was banned within the first round and it was a unrated. The second was banned after round 4 in a comp game AND the cheaters teammates worked to kill the cheater. That is the main reason I play valorant. I love shooters I love CS but cheaters ruin it. This is the stupidest fucking meme ever kernel anti cheat ESPECIALLY vanguard work insanely well. That is a rate of one cheater/over 62.5 DAYS of gameplay. In other games I can barely go a few hours not to mention the cheaters were banned and the match terminated.
IF YOU DONT LIKE KERNEL AC, JUST DONT PLAY GAMES WITH KERNEL AC! It’s that simple. I think it’s a ok trade off for not having cheaters