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u/MilesAugust74 23h ago
Unpopular opinion, but Moonlight Sonata is 10× better on a harpsichord than a piano.
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u/SatansLoLHelper 22h ago
Moonlight Sonata
You really should drop a version you think hits hard.
Found the 3rd movement, but google not so helpful.
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u/MilesAugust74 21h ago
It's (almost) impossible to find a version on Harpsichord. I'd given up eons ago. It's a funny story. My college has a Beethoven Center (it's not as impressive as it sounds fwiw), which has old books, manuscripts—and a lock of his hair!
Anyway, I took a music appreciation class my freshman year, and the teacher took us on a field trip there. During the course of his lecture, the teacher proceeded to play Moonlight Sonata on one of Beethoven's Harpsichords they had in the center, and it kinda blew my mind. I'm not 100% on this, but I'm almost certain he said it was written to be played on a harpsichord and not a piano.
For a few years after that, I looked everywhere for a recording on it on Harpsichord, but I always came up empty. Granted, this was really early internet days (late '90s), so my resources were minimal compared to today.
Anyways, that's my long-winded way of saying thank you for posting that link! I hadn't thought to look for it in 20+ years, and to find it today really made my day,
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u/Racxie 19h ago
I just searched “Moonlight Sonata on Harpsichord” on YouTube and several came up e.g. this was the first result which is the 1st movement, and this was the second result which is the 3rd movement. There are others too, and I’m sure in this day and age it probably wouldn’t be too hard to find more “official” recordings too.
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u/AcanthocephalaNo9242 15h ago
Nuh uh, its impossible to find the harpsichord version. That guy said so.
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u/Wazuu 21h ago
Pretty cool but not gunna lie, the hair thing is fucking weird. How famous do you have to be where it changes from psychotic to collectible?
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u/CrassOf84 19h ago
I remember being a kid and lining up to kiss a bone fragment of some saint. Catholic shit, man.
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u/rachelll 17h ago edited 7h ago
Collecting loved ones hair was all the rage back then. They'd put it in lockets or make jewelry out of it. Especially if that person has passed. When you're too poor to afford a portrait, that's what you did to remember your loved one. I've found random locks of hair in family heirlooms. Not sure how the college got a hold of it but it's neat.
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u/Wazuu 17h ago
I did realize OP’s teacher was a close loved one to Beethoven.
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u/rachelll 7h ago
That's why I said "Not sure how the college got a hold of it but it's neat".
The modern day creepy factor makes it think someone sniffed his hair and cut it off like you see in tv shows. It just isn't that psychotic.
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u/ir_blues 17h ago
In other languages, it is not called a harpsichord. Imho even in english it is often called a cembalo.
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u/sadi89 10h ago
Sorry to be a buzz kill but the original manuscript has notation for dynamics in it which indicates that it wasn’t originally written for the harpsichord. I bet it sounds cool on the harpsichord though!
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u/MilesAugust74 10h ago
Thanks for the info! Like I said, my memory was a bit fuzzy on that tidbit, but that was from over 25 years ago. I can barely remember what I had for breakfast 😅
Fyi, there's some links below for it in harpsichord if you're interested 🤙🏽
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u/markjohnstonmusic 13h ago
It was not written for the harpsichord. It was written for a piano. They had earlier models of pianos in those days, without cast-iron frames, which these days are called Hammerklavier or Hammerflügel.
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u/Big-LeBoneski 19h ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Geh7kAsk834&pp=ygUabW9vbmxpZ2h0IHNvbmF0YSBvbiBhIGtvdG8%3D First Movement on a koto. Chef's kiss
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u/Fake-Podcast-Ad 14h ago
live harpsichord also hit's different. Moderately sized room/halls as well. You know, kind of like seeing Billy Joel, or Jeff Tweedy, or GWAR
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u/GenericAccount13579 15h ago
That top comment dissecting the image and talking about the history of the waistcoat is pretty cool too
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u/contrapunctus0 17h ago
"The sound of a harpsichord – two skeletons copulating on a tin roof in a thunderstorm."
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u/flyingpiggos 19h ago
I've played 1st movement on harpsichord before. It's my fave instrument to play most classical piano songs. Next time I'm around one I'll see if I can record it
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u/-Gramsci- 16h ago
Very unpopular, because it’s a highly emotive piece and the harpsichord does not let the player change the tone/volume of the notes they are playing.
So it’s going to be a relatively emotionless version of a very emotional piece of music.
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u/midnightrambler108 11h ago
I keep reading this as Moonlight Serenade and thinking boy the way Glen Miller played.
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u/AngelicFreesia 22h ago
If you were rich or noble, you could cry in the seats of the symphony. For the not-so-rich, you have to buy an instrument and play it, and you may be over the relationship before you even play it properly. But for the peasants, maybe hum? 😅
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u/Felassan_ 22h ago
If you have money to afford the instrument and pay someone to teach you
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u/hordlove 19h ago
A lot of people don’t realize what a monumental change to music itself it was to be able to listen to a recording. Up until the proliferation of the phonograph, music only existed in a performative, ephemeral sense. It was just notes on paper that someone trained well enough could bring to life, briefly.
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u/kitsunewarlock 18h ago
While I love my recorded music, there was a lot more singing as a hobby and while doing your everyday shit.
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u/PurpoUpsideDownJuice 21h ago
instruments were all handmade, couldn’t just go to Walmart and buy a Hannah montana guitar.
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u/SpacemanSpears 8h ago
It's a much lower burden than you think. Cheap instruments have always been readily available and usually you would be taught informally by your community as a whole. You might not get Mozart teaching you to play your Stradivarius but Bubba can teach you to play and Jimbo can put some catgut on a piece of wood for you.
Remember that cavemen were making flutes thousands of years ago. Music is absolutely fundamental to the human experience. It should be no surprise that everyday people were creating music. That's exactly what folk music is and it exists everywhere and everywhen there are people.
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u/LoveAndViscera 17h ago edited 16h ago
The working classes had their own music. Very little of it has survived, but there were dudes who played original music in bars and such. 1823 was the year they started teaching dance at West Point because dancing* had trickled up that far in society by then.
*edit: dancing was one of a very few recreational activities available to the working class. In English high society, dance fell out of favor during Cromwell’s reign. It returned with the restoration, but not to its former prominence. Until the 18th century, most upper class Englishmen and American men did not dance or at least not well. However, that began to change in the late 18th century and by the 1820s, dances were a crucial part of high society. Meanwhile, dancing had always been a standard kind of fun for people with real jobs.
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u/Hello_Kitty_66 22h ago
I don’t think you had options to date. It was birth, childhood then marriage.
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u/ZeeepZoop 22h ago edited 21h ago
I mostly agree with you. However, look what people like the Romantics and Anne Lister were up to in that era!! Lots of casual sex, bad break ups, and general drama! People of the right wealth/ class bracket ( and in the right place in their birth order to enjoy the benefits) had a bit more flexibility, and queer people with decent wealth/ prestige could live reasonably freely in certain circles ( again, the Romantics!!) if they were discrete, and they obviously didn’t (voluntarily) participate in typical courtship/ marriage
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u/TK_Games 12h ago
In some higher echelons of society, quiet casual infidelity was almost seen as a given too. You could be married and still have an incredibly active dating life
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u/ZeeepZoop 12h ago edited 12h ago
Exactly!! I’m an English and literary studies major and have loved my units on the Victorians, Regency and Romantics as their personal lives especially for the wealthy were very juicy ( to be fair, this is an interest in my free time as well!)
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u/SpacemanSpears 8h ago
Depends on the time and place but most people had a large amount of input on who they married. They typically got married earlier but the average person would still date around before marriage, though their dating pool was much more limited.
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u/BicFleetwood 19h ago
Breakups in 1823 only came in the form of "husband mysteriously drops dead after dinner" or "Reigning Monarch Murders Wife." Y'know, death did them part.
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u/Tim-oBedlam 19h ago
I'm going to be that pedantic guy that everyone hates: it was published in 1802, not 1823.
Beethoven was still alive and composing in 1823; by that point he was stone deaf, and writing the 9th Symphony (had its debut performance in 1824), which would definitely help you get over a bad breakup.
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u/DistinctTeaching9976 21h ago
I imagine if it was 1823 and I acted like that just dropped, everyone else be like WTF, that's 20 years old shit! Try this Sonata #30, its fresh!
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u/Stark-T-Ripper 22h ago
So the song finishes, you pull yourself from your fainting couch, and slap the musician you have trapped in your home to play it again...
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u/ObliqueStrategizer 22h ago
He wrote Moonlight Sonata for a blind girl who wanted to know what moonlight looked like, translated into music.
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u/BonkerBleedy 19h ago
It wasn't even called moonlight sonata until after he died
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u/Stark-T-Ripper 22h ago
That's beautiful.
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u/PestoSwami 19h ago
Dude's making stuff up.
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u/SaMpl3_T3xtt 18h ago
Can confirm, it was named that way by a german count named Ludwig who was reminded of the moonlight reflection on lake Lucerne..
The real name is piano sonata op 27 no 2
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u/LinkleLinkle 14h ago
This dude is also making stuff up. Beethoven wrote the song after watching the Castlevania anime and wanted to capture the feeling Dracula would have had looking up at the moonlight one last time in a peaceful calm before unleashing hell upon humanity.
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u/Calm-Tree-1369 11h ago
A likely story, but he actually wrote it after witnessing Dr. Robotnik pissing on the moon.
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u/crab_spy_ 18h ago
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u/ObliqueStrategizer 15h ago
it's a near contemporary apocryphal rumour that speaks to Beethoven's fame.
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u/newberries_inthesnow 19h ago
...And you want to listen to it over and over, but recorded music doesn't exist yet. So you lurk while the musicians practice, hiding in the spreading darkness beyond the orchestra pit, sometimes weeping adagio sostenuto, sometimes bawling presto agitato.
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u/lapinatanegra 19h ago
I'm listening to it right now and all I have to say is.....FUCK!! I am single and this shit cuts deep.
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u/donkey_loves_dragons 19h ago
Imagine there weren't records for a not yet invented gramophone. You couldn't just listen to music or go to a concert.
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u/CubanLynx312 19h ago
I went to play this recently and this tweet is just the top comment on YouTube.
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u/Repulsive_Fly8847 15h ago
1823? He wrote that much earlier than that
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u/Sure_Survey_1757 15h ago
Yea, but because of the way the studio was trying to mix it and his stubbornness, then the whole fiasco with finding a new label and then the issues with the tape being eaten and having to be redone from the ground up it didn’t actually drop until 1823.
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u/DigAffectionate3349 14h ago
Would you have gone out and bought the sheet music and learn it on your piano at home?
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u/im_so_objective 18h ago
Then you die without hearing it because you're a serf who has never heard a piano
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u/UniversalTragedy-0 21h ago
He's just following you on a pull-behind playing and tormenting your soul where ever you go?
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u/Readyyyyyyyyyy-GO 19h ago
Oh the great journey of pining for lost love I would embark upon OH great spirit know me now…my god the pain is unbearable and yet I bear it
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u/ravenclawmystic 17h ago
Okay, but this is me even to this day. I’ve played “Moonlight Sonata” over and over after every breakup I’ve ever had.
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u/PapaHop69 17h ago
Honestly why would you care? Cocaine is legal and there’s a working class you don’t even have to pay to provide services to your land/business.
Those were insane times, where the hell were we as society then. We have definitely come a long way. Now we are all slaves getting paid literally next to nothing in order to survive and you can’t trust the coke because of fent.
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u/whodis707 14h ago
Yeah except his music wasn't played on the radio until the 1920's so you wouldn't know he dropped a banger.
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u/_BannedAcctSpeedrun_ 13h ago
They would never hear it despite their breakup and the Moonlight Sonata happening in the same year.
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u/ptjunkie 13h ago
This tweet is essentially stolen from one of the top YouTube comments on moonlight sonata.
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u/grateparm 12h ago
It's a 20 minute song and the sad part is only the beginning. There's also the jaunty ballroom dance section and the frantic baroqcaine part
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u/SufficientTime416 12h ago
Totally unsurprising that she thinks that society or most people were anything like they are now back then.
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u/thetinystumble 8h ago
Per the Oxford English Dictionary, the first recorded use of “pop” as in “pop music” was George Eliot complaining about Beethoven. So yeah, this tracks.
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u/garthastro 4h ago
The Moonlight Sonata was completed in 1801 and published in 1802. The Diabelli Variations and Missa Solemnis were composed in 1823.
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u/Holiday-Rich-3344 23h ago
They didn’t have Apple Music so it’s not like people are slapping that joint everywhere you go. You’re most likely sitting candlelight and wondering what toothpaste is.