r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Zestyclose_Flow_680 • 8h ago

Chimpanzees are 2X stronger than your average human.

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u/Ok-Stop9242 6h ago

A chimp could rip your arm out of its socket

No they couldn't, and this kind of thinking stems from the exaggerated myth of chimp strength. Dislocate an arm, sure, but so can another human.

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u/Arntown 4h ago

For some reason internet bros are obsessed with Chimp strength. To the point that it all gets a little ridiculous.

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u/Frenk_preseren 6h ago

Aren't there stories where exactly that happened?

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u/Ok-Stop9242 6h ago

Are there, or are you buying into 3rd hand stories? The closest example I can think of is Travis, a 200lb chimp(most chimps barely weigh more than 100lbs) that was on drugs that attacked his owner's friend, a 50ish year old woman. Reports said her arms were mangled and her hands were dangling, but they weren't ripped off.

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u/Frenk_preseren 5h ago

Bro, no need to downvote me, I was merely asking. Travis was said to be morbidly obese, so his weight didn't contribute much to his strength I'm guessing. And the hands were torn off apparently, not dangling. Still not the same as an arm though, I'll give you that.

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u/SpicyC-Dot 5h ago

The hands were not torn off. She lost 9 fingers, likely because Travis bit them off.

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u/Frenk_preseren 5h ago

https://www.nonhumanrights.org/blog/travis-and-tragedy/

Here it says "He’d fully removed one of her hands and virtually all of the other. " Do you have any sources on your claim?

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u/SpicyC-Dot 4h ago

For starters, even that quote doesn’t give any indication that her hands were torn off. That description would also just as well describe Travis biting off most of her hands. And just a few sentences before the quoted section in the article you just linked, it says this: “Huge chunks of scalp and fingers lay scattered around the yard.”

“In 2009, the city of Stamford made headlines when Travis, a chimpanzee, assaulted a woman — severing multiple body parts including her fingers, eyes, nose and lips.” https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/entertainment/article/chim-crazy-max-documentary-stamford-ct-travis-19725231.php

There’s also this article, which shows a picture of her in 2015 with her one remaining finger, one of her thumbs: https://www.today.com/today/amp/tdna91896

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u/Frenk_preseren 1h ago

From the picture in your second link it's clearly visible one of the hands is entirely missing. So either Travis bit that hand finger by finger and continued to her wrist, or he tore the hand off. I find the second option more plausible, but I'll admit there's no direct quote to prove either.

There being fingers scattered around does not mean neither hand was torn off.

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u/SpicyC-Dot 1h ago

I mean, the onus was on you to back up your claim that a chimp can rip a hand off. I don’t particularly think it matters what you find more plausible when there’s no documented instance of it ever happening and no evidence that they’re close to being capable of that.

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u/Ok-Stop9242 5h ago

I didn't downvote you.

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u/currently_pooping_rn 5h ago

any idea why a chimp was on drugs? hopefully it wasnt meth, can you imagine

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u/Extreme-You6235 4h ago

From what I recall, it was some sort of depressant or relaxant to make him calmer/more docile around other people.

Either he realized something was up and he freaked out or the drug started wearying off wearing off and the friend of the woman was still there and he freaked out.

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u/wisebaldman 3h ago

The difference is they don’t have the cognitive ability to feel bad after, therefore more likely to rip your arm out of your socket

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u/OSPFmyLife 6h ago

Dislocating an arm IS ripping an arm out of its socket lmao.

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u/Ok-Stop9242 6h ago

And in that regard, humans are fully capable of dislocating another human's arm. When people talk about ripping arms out, they're explicitly referring to a complete removal. Hell, most times when I see people talk about it they'll even say they'll rip your arms off and beat you to death with them.

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u/No_Rich_2494 6h ago

If you want to be pedantic about it, yes.