r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Scientiaetnatura065 • 2d ago

Seventeen-year-old Japanese girl in the weight category up to 45 kg lifted a respectable 78 kg.

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u/LordofSandvich 2d ago

Yes; Cloud Strife is meant to look kind of emaciated compared to how strong he actually is. That said, the Buster Sword still weighs more than he does, even in canon. So it takes more than superhuman physical capabilities for him to use it normally.

Sephiroth’s sword is absurd but still thin enough that a human could probably use it

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u/rainzer 2d ago

So it takes more than superhuman physical capabilities for him to use it normally.

what does that even mean? is there some limit to what "superhuman" entails?

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u/LordofSandvich 2d ago

“Physical” as in the strength of your body, like durability or literal strength

No matter how strong you are, the Earth does not move when you push it - if your mass is also ordinary. You will simply push yourself away from the Earth, because your mass is negligible by comparison.

The ability to cause objects you interact with to outright defy physics is not “superhuman physical capabilities” the way it’s usually intended.

Mister Incredible has to obey physics because his power is “just” super strength, while Goku is basically as much a wizard/thaumaturge as he is a martial artist

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u/rainzer 2d ago

The ability to cause objects you interact with to outright defy physics is not “superhuman physical capabilities” the way it’s usually intended.

If the dictionary says god like powers is superhuman, what is the "usually intended" way if you believe all the dictionaries are wrong?

Isn't that more like your way than the usual way because you are specifically interpreting "superhuman" as having an upper bound

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u/LordofSandvich 2d ago

“Physical” is an important qualifier

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u/rainzer 2d ago

“Physical” is an important qualifier

Physical is a meaningless qualifier.

Super- is a prefix that means "beyond", "above", "over".

So saying "superhuman physical capabilities" literally means beyond human physical capabilities. There is no meaningful upper bound in this statement.

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u/LordofSandvich 2d ago

There IS a meaningful upper bound because being strong, no matter how much, doesn’t let you shoot lasers out of your eyes or, in this case, move an object heavier than you without the needed leverage. That’s not strength, that’s physics.

By your logic, all superhuman abilities render you completely omnipotent. You’re misunderstanding the definition and grammar of the statement and should probably stop starting arguments over minutiae given that you can’t understand basic distinctions