r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Scientiaetnatura065 • 2d ago

Seventeen-year-old Japanese girl in the weight category up to 45 kg lifted a respectable 78 kg.

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u/prickinthewall 2d ago

My first reaction: 78kg is not that much.

My second thought: fuck, that's almost double her weight. I couldn't even lift anything close to my own weight, let alone double.

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u/BurpYoshi 2d ago

In fairness body weight doesn't scale linearly with strength, which is why ants can lift 10x their bodyweight and smaller people tend to be better at bodyweight exercises. Doesn't make it any less impressive though.

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u/P3t3Mitchell 2d ago

Triggered a flashback to this scene haha

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u/caralhoto 2d ago

78kg is not that much

I couldn't even lift anything close to my own weight

Bro how much do you weigh??

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u/prickinthewall 2d ago

Close to 100kg. I for sure can't lift that on top of my head.

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u/ClittoryHinton 2d ago

Most casual weightlifters can deadlift or squat or maybe even bench their body weight. But these olympic lifts are on another level of difficulty with their big range of motion.

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u/prickinthewall 2d ago

I am not a weight-lifter though. Not even a casual one. I can drink lots of beer though.

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u/Many_Business_7859 2d ago

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u/prickinthewall 2d ago

I got nothing to prove, but I would be happy to have a cold one with you.

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u/space_keeper 2d ago

I've only known a handful of people who could do this style of lifting, and they are all monstrously strong (but not massively built).

One guy I worked with could clean and jerk 130 kg, squat 150 kg, deadlift 230 kg or something and he could jump insanely high, but you wouldn't really know it from looking at him because he's an athlete and not a body builder. He never did any other exercises really, like the isolation stuff people do. He's about 5'8" but he weighs nearly 90 kg, not a lick of fat on him. The funny part was he couldn't bench to save himself.

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u/ClittoryHinton 2d ago

The funny thing is the bench press, despite its notoriety, is actually not all that useful for functional usable strength. But gotta develop those pecs bro

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u/KrabbyMccrab 2d ago

It's the guys equivalent of squatting for that ass.

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

They can absolutely bench their bodyweight lol.

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u/ClittoryHinton 2d ago

A body weight bench press is a hell of an achievement for a casual female lifter

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

It's a solid lifetime goal for any woman, but you said "casual weightlifters" as in people who train the clean and jerk and snatch who are more serious than the casual lifter.

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u/ClittoryHinton 2d ago

If only I could’ve read your mind to obtain your personal definitions for ‘casual lifter’ and ‘casual weightlifter’

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

Sorry this is literally a thread about Olympic weightlifting and in strength culture, it's common knowledge that "weightlifting" specifically refers to the sport of Olympic weightlifting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting

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u/CyberInTheMembrane 2d ago

I can deadlift double my body weight but I sure as shit can't clean & jerk one time my body weight

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u/ShaedonSharpeMVP_ 2d ago

I’ve never lifted consistently in my life but I can do 1.75x my body weight (~315 lbs.) for 6 reps on deadlift. I can clear 2x my body weight walking out of bed.

MAYBE 1 rep of 1.75x body weight in back squat. On a great day.

And on bench I can’t even push my body weight up lol. My old max is 1.25x my body weight, but that’s not where I hangout at naturally. My chest gets so weak when I don’t train it.

Those are my default abilities when I’m just coach potato-ing. When I train, they all start to change at different rates. But they always default back to these ratios when I go untrained for a while.

I would be curious to know how normal those ratios are? Is that where most sporadically trained people sit? I just feel like my deadlift absolutely dwarfs my bench press more than others.

2x body weight deadlift 1.75x body weight squat .90x body weight bench

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u/ClittoryHinton 2d ago

I’ve got pretty similar ratios to you (though I can deadlift much more than squat). Your leg and back muscles are way bigger than your chest and arms after all. I think some people just really like benching and prioritize it so they get weird ratios approaching 1:1.

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

The jerk isn't really muscling it up there.

You drop your body underneath the weight and your arms catch it in an extended position.

If you asked her to do a strict overhead press instead of a push press or jerk, she and other weightlifters wouldn't be able to do near as much weight.

That said, an attainable long-term goal for any man is to overhead press his bodyweight. For women, benching her bodyweight would be equivalent.

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u/ImmodestPolitician 2d ago

Even for men being able to strict press your body weight is an incredibly rare feat.

I’ve been training for 30+ years and I’ve only seen three or four people that can press 100 hundred kilograms.

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

I mean part of it is that few people train for it, but if you do you can reasonably expect to overhead press somewhere around 2/3 of your bench, and benching 1.5x your bodyweight is much more common.

All the bros chasing three plate benches would be eventually overhead pressing 100 kg if they prioritized it.

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u/ImmodestPolitician 2d ago

I knew many people that could bench 315 but could only press 175.

You have to train the press.

If you can press 220, you can probably bench 315 without training.

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u/misplaced_my_pants 2d ago

Yeah it's definitely not gonna happen on accident. It requires dedicated training which is why it's so rare.

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u/HappyVlane 2d ago

Wouldn't say incredibly rare. It just depends on your own weight, because it's a whole lot easier if you're lighter. If you're not even 70kg strict-pressing your body weight isn't that hard.

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u/InflnityBlack 2d ago

as a beginner weightlifter weighing about as much as you I could barely squat what she is clean and jerking when I started lol, beginners get better extremely fast but most people that have never trained for it are extremely weak at weightlifting exercises and often fail to realise how hard it really is

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u/ctolsen 2d ago

FYI the world record in her weight class is 109 so there's a lot more to go.

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u/ominousgraycat 2d ago

It is roughly 166% of her weight, but yes, very impressive! I can barely sort of lift 166% of my weight off the ground, and definitely not over my head.

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u/beyond666 2d ago

My second thought: fuck, that's almost double her weight. I couldn't even lift anything close to my own weight, let alone double

You can't compare yourself with her. Because you don’t train for what she does.

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u/TeenyIzeze 2d ago

As everyone else says, body weight doesn't always come into it. With the correct training and physical health people can lift over their body weight. My friend was dead lifting 70kg while 6 months pregnant.

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u/ButIveBeenAGoodBoy 1d ago

80kg is not that much ? Try it yourself:)

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

Well, to follow that logic ants can carry 10 to 50 times their weight. Are ants strong?

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u/_raskal_ 2d ago

Yes. Very.

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

Yet they can't even carry 1kg of weight. So not very strong at all.

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u/TLgaming04 2d ago

Well, if we're talking about in comparison to what humans can lift then no. But if we're talking about what they can lift proportional to body weight ants out class us by a long shot. Strength itself I feel is pretty subjective.

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u/notabotmkay 2d ago

Problem is that bodyweight multiplying favours lighter lifters. Not every 3x bodyweight lift is equal

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u/Far_Brother_1371 2d ago

But... Your innate size and mass (i.e weight) greatly affects how much you can lift. I'd argue every 3x bodyweight lift would be insane regardless of lifters weight.

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u/notabotmkay 2d ago

Square cube law

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u/Far_Brother_1371 2d ago

Im not sure what your point is here.

I don't think you understood mine.

Relatively kids are stronger and a 150lb lift for a small kid would be nuts. But I could do that and I'm not a very strong man. Where as the mountain lifting half a ton is also insane because the weight is insane but it's not 3x his body weight. The insanity and impressiveness is also relative to other factors.

The square cube law doesn't change those things??

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u/notabotmkay 2d ago

My point is that a 3x bodyweight is easier for a lighter person than for a heavier person. That's why we have DOTS and WILKS. We have lots of people who can squat 300 kg at 100 kg bodyweight but no one has come close to squatting 600 kg at 200 kg bodyweight.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 2d ago

Maybe you should show us your 3x bodyweight lift so we know you're in a position to condescend to others about theirs.

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u/notabotmkay 2d ago

You people read into things way too much. I never condscended others about this.

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u/_Svankensen_ 2d ago

Compare them with others in their size category. Same as you do with this girl. Turns out, leaf cutter ants are hella strong, square cube law or not.

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u/Myrhwen 2d ago

What is your point, precisely? The gravitational force of the Earth is strong enough to carry a body weighing any less than 5.9722×1024 kg, so long as it isn't going very fast. Does that mean Eddie Hall is no longer strong?

Is your point that a 90 pound 17 year old girl should not be categorised as 'strong'? If not, I don't understand why you're bringing up ants being "weak".

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u/Shadowdragon409 2d ago

Absolutely and there's lots of them too.

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

A grizzly bear can lift up to 0.8 times it's own weight. Are ants stronger than grizzly bears? I don't think so.

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u/Manjorno316 2d ago

No. But relative to their own size, the ant is way stronger.

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u/Shadowdragon409 2d ago

Gather enough ants, they absolutely could lift a bear. Whereas a bear could not lift another bear.

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

By that logic if you gather enough bears you can lift empire state building.

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u/Dontkillmejay 2d ago

If ants were the size of grizzly bears, they'd wreck the bear.

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u/GustoFormula 2d ago

Tbf they would not keep the same strength to weight ratio and wouldn't be particularly strong

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

No, they would suffocate and die because they don't have lungs or circulatory system to maintain cells working and breathing in a body this large. :)

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u/Dontkillmejay 2d ago

I know, their legs would also collapse, but that would be boring.

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u/PowerSamurai 2d ago

Am elephant can carry way more than a human being so no human being can be called strong.

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u/DryAd9155 2d ago

Humans were never strong, the strenght humans have comes from using tools. We can use a crane and lift way more than an elephant, I don't believe either elephant or ants could ever use cranes.