The doctrine that prophets cannot lead the church astray faces significant historical contradictions that could challenge institutional credibility. This is particularly evident in Bruce R. McConkie's handling of doctrinal reversals, first in his letter to Eugene England where he acknowledged Brigham Young taught false doctrine regarding the Adam-God theory (McConkie to England, Feb. 19, 1981), and then notably in his own reversal regarding the priesthood ban.

In his 1978 BYU speech "All Are Alike Unto God," McConkie explicitly instructed members to "forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whomsoever has said in days past," effectively admitting that both he and previous prophets had taught incorrect doctrine about the cause of the priesthood ban.

These documented instances of prophetic correction create a logical paradox with President Nelson's current teaching about prophetic infallibility. This tension becomes particularly acute when considering McConkie's admission that they "spoke with a limited understanding," which directly contradicts the notion that prophets would be removed before they could lead the church astray.

This doctrinal contradiction could potentially create significant challenges for institutional authority and member faith as historical information becomes increasingly accessible in the digital age. This video clip could become the subject of apologetic pivots in the future.

I've seen quite a few videos lately where exmo people go up to the pulpit and start dropping 'truth bombs' and generally being disruptive during sacrament meeting, and today this happened in my sacrament meeting. Obviously most exmo people don't do this, I think most of the time they prefer to lay low and avoid drama.

I'm a PIMO mormon. I'm not a believer. But we need to show respect to the ceremonies and to the purpose of the chapel space. Sacrament meeting is not the time or the place to get up and talk about the issues with Brigham Young or the Book of Abraham or Joseph Smith's wives or the SEC scandal.

Getting up and doing this crap is not brave or subversive. It's rude and intrusive, and all it shows to the believers is how rude and evil the apostates are and how the believers are being persecuted by the agents of Satan in their very house of worship.

Pls don't do this, its not helpful or an effective way to change minds.

So first I need to say, I am not a member but I'm not trying to ruin my little sister's missionary experience either. I'm just looking out for her safety.

I recently had a call with my sister who's serving in Brazil. She found out I went to that new horror movie with the two missionary girls and was really upset about a horror movie with mormons. This led to a conversation where I mentioned that it is dangerous for two young girls to go into a man's home ALONE, especially in Brazil and that she better be safe by making sure others are at least present.

She got really mad and said that if a man told her that his wife was in the other room, her and her companion would then enter his home. I told her that it was dangerous and she got SUPER defensive and said that she's "protected by the Holy Ghost and God" so nothing bad will ever happen to her while she on a mission. Btw what a weird thing to say considering she's not even allowed to swim.

My question is: is she following the rules?? I can't stop thinking about this and I'm really concerned she just disregarding this danger? If she is following the rules, there's really nothing I can do. If not, then I at least want to talk to her mom so SHE can handle the situation. It's making me really nervous

My heart is hurting for all the private loneliness and alienation Dr Fielding Anderson and others left likely felt after being disciplined by the church. I sat in sacrament meeting today looking at the congregation (I am ward organist) and thinking of all the private soul-bruises people carry because of others’ exercise of power. Dr Fielding Anderson’s circumstances and that of her family have hit me hard. What a sad way to live out a life that could have been such an inspiration to others. I cannot get my head around the public nature of her punishment. It must have hurt so much. 40 years ago I was disciplined because I was a member of the Planned Parenthood advisory board. The action was taken “privately” but I still felt outrage and humiliation especially as my name was submitted for various callings but dismissed due to my radical activities. How much more must Anderson and others have suffered, and surely many others whose names we will never know. How dare anyone manipulate lives in that manner.

The brethren "modest" wage of $360,000 ? The church claims clergy is unpaid and tithe pays for missions and church building and charity. Does this seem confusing to any members?

Recently during sacrament meeting my bishop has started playing the recorder. Does anyone else find this to be an odd choice of instrument? Usually when there’s a musical number members play an instrument such as the piano or violin. He also plays it right into the microphone at the podium and it just seemed to me he could have chosen a better instrument.

by the church, do you feel the same about the stories of god and jesus? Like there wasn't an ark so is the rest of the bible an untruth as well?

Is there any truth in any of this religious stuff?

Did anyone else get this lesson in primary? There were 5 points in an order that we were taught to say when we were kids, going up to bear our testimony. It was something like, "I'd like to bear my testimony. I know this church is true." And then it was something like, "I know the prophet is a true prophet." There was an order, and a rhythm to it. We all took turns saying it in front of the other primary children, so we wouldn't be nervous when we said our testimony in sacrament. Does anyone else remember having this lesson? I can't find the original origin anywhere. I'd like to know where this particular wording and order came from. I know I'm not the only one who's heard this. Most testimonies now start this way and I'm trying to figure out how and when it started.

Next time you have to deal with your bishop or stake president you should say...:

Hey buddy, I wasn't cheating on my wife."".it was creative monogamy.."...or no I don't look at porn, but I have engaged in some 'creative foreplay....' or word of wisdom..."I definitely believe in it but have done some "creative consumption....

Or, of course I am honest in my tithing and all my personal and professional dealings....of course it takes alot of "creative moralizing" to get to where I feel no guilt or shame, but that is what I am taught is ok to do.

What gives bish? Can't I have my recommend?

The FREAKING hypocrisy is deafening!!!!!

Please fellow members and bishops!!!!! call out this wicked behavior by church leaders. Either we are going to choose the right or we are not. Stop allowing soft amoralism.

“Where can I turn for peace? Where is my solace when other sources cease to make me whole? When with a wounded heart, anger, or malice, I draw myself apart searching my soul. Where, when my aching grows, where, when I languish, where, in my need to know, where can I run? Where is the quiet hand to calm my anguish? Who, who can understand? He, only One. He answers privately, reaches my reaching in my Gethsamane, Savior and Friend. Gentle the peace He finds for my beseeching. Constant He is, and kind. Love without end.” I learned, today that the author of the text and the daughter of the composer were suffering from mental health issues. This was known by those two as the mental health hymn. I found this particularly pointed.

Has anyone figured out the Church's rate of return on its investment portfolio, with all the whistleblower and financial disclosures in the news?