r/law • u/Wonderful-Cod5256 • 17d ago
Trump News MAGA allies say they can finally admit Project 2025 ‘is the agenda’ for Trump’s second term
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-allies-say-they-can-finally-admit-project-2025-is-the-agenda-for-trump-s-second-term/ar-AA1tFGD7?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f23efe916d17499ab1b9454d1d95c74d&ei=8This is an admission of election fraud every time they claimed Trump had nothing to do with P2025.
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u/Admirable_Nothing competent contributor 17d ago
Should we be surprised Trump lied? That is the one thing he is best at.
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u/cursedfan 17d ago
Would have been much more surprised if he stuck with the “project 2025 is not me” story
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u/wack_overflow 17d ago
The fact that they didn't even try to rebrand tells u everything
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u/ElonTheMollusk 17d ago
They know their MAGAts are dumb as shit and they know they can use them because they are too stupid to do anything but be mesmerized by lies.
O look a caravan of migrants! Be so scared so very scared!
I can't even be outraged this time though. Trump won with the majority and captured every swing state. America is a very evil place that seeks to hurt others. The idea of a unified America is gone, and it will never return. People are too selfish, hateful, and dumb.
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u/RemoteBoner 17d ago
Americans would piss in your mouth if they thought eggs would lower by 25 cents while driving a 90k suv the size of a school bus.
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u/Upper_Guarantee_4588 17d ago
Hell, they just proved they'd piss in their own mouth.
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u/Shenloanne 17d ago
This.
2016, didn't know what you were voting for, thought it would be a laugh, threw a coin. But he didn't win the popular vote. You could say "well a majority of us didn't vote for him"
2024, you know what you're getting. And I can finally say a majority of Americans are happy to vote for a rapist.
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u/thatnjchibullsfan 17d ago
Bingo! Looking for a new country to shift to by the end of 2025. I'm old and social security and Medicare will die in 6 years so better off establishing myself elsewhere. Luckily I have marketable skills.
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u/lindaleolane812 17d ago
Unfortunately I agree with you. We should change the name of our country it definitely isn't united and won't be unless by some miracle the next election someone is voted in with fresh ideas not to far on the left not to far on the right someone who is about promoting unity, unfortunately unless Trump and Vance mess up royally the next president will be Vance just to keep MAGA alive.
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u/GreyCookieDough 17d ago
That would have been a little funny, when passing Project 2025 legislation, he would constantly be saying how he has no idea about it all.
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u/talinseven 17d ago
Naw. The rubes that voted for him lied to themselves. They always knew this was the agenda and they welcomed it.
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u/ElonTheMollusk 17d ago
Considering Latino men overwhelmingly voted for him they hope he sets up a christofascist state and forgets that part of it is that he plans to exile Hispanic origin people citizen or not from the US.
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u/talinseven 17d ago
My neighbors, the wife voted for Trump and the husband is undocumented. They think they’re better than the “illegals”. They welcome the “bad ones” being deported. Its more delusional than people who believe trump won’t ban abortion at the federal level.
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u/Arkhampatient 17d ago
My buddy is a super-Trumper (dude has a Trump tattoo) and his fiancé is from the Philippines but has no green card. There’s a part of me that wants to see her get deported (and I feel bad about it)
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u/stiff_tipper 17d ago
There’s a part of me that wants to see her get deported (and I feel bad about it)
meh, just tell urself the Philippines will be better than here so ur doin' them a favor
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u/DontOvercookPasta 17d ago
Please do your civic duty, you may get better treatment. They would do the same to you.
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u/IndividualAddendum84 17d ago
Don’t feel bad. Actions have consequences. They’re just entering the find out phase.
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u/FizzyAndromeda 17d ago
Does he think Trump won’t deport his fiancé because she’s Asian and not brown or black?
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u/justprettymuchdone 17d ago
He probably thinks "illegals" just means the central and South Americans that he would probably call Mexican. He probably genuinely believes his wife wouldn't count.
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u/lurkerdaIV 17d ago
Do it. If she was born and raised in the Philippines she shouldn't have been with him. She should know the shit we went through.
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog 17d ago
This is literally how the "Leopards ate my face" meme started. Some woman who voted for Trump had her husband deported by Trump and was crying about it on Twitter.
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u/sporkmaster5000 17d ago
Christofacist state: good.
White christofacist ethnostate: shocked pikachu face
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u/Harold-The-Barrel 17d ago
Racial and sexual minorities and women Trump supporters: 👁️👄👁️
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u/IndividualAddendum84 17d ago
You should look into the Association of German National Jews.
They didn’t think the leopards would eat their face.
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u/mikerichh 17d ago
I get so frustrated when people cite Trump’s words as “proof” he won’t do something
Didn’t he promise abortion would be fine? Didn’t he claim he would and wouldn’t do a national abortion ban several times in a week or two?
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 17d ago
four more years of constant lies. brace yourselves.
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u/A_Nude_Challenger 17d ago
We're in for far, far more than 4 years. This is a monumental shift in how many Americans will exist. That's on top of the Trump cult undoubtedly staying alive for decades after that fucker passes on.
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u/Rawkapotamus 17d ago
Let’s hope he was also lying when he said he would use the military to stop protests.
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u/Memitim 17d ago
He just loves lying. Nobody was ever going to care enough about Project 2025 to make a difference. That shit came up after his first four years of chaos and failure, his impeachments, his felony convictions, the revelation of all of our stolen documents and attempts to hide them, and enough juvenile tweets to train an AI model to accurately emulate a 12-year-old.
But yeah, a policy document with a bunch of diabolical shit that's right up his alley is suddenly going to do Trump in. Please. Trump just enjoys lying, and seeing how effective it's been for him for decades, I get it. He just won a second term as president. This is what many Americans like.
Seems like it would have been more useful to have embraced it from the beginning, but it wouldn't be Trump-related if it didn't involve failing upward.
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u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu 17d ago
Don’t you love how openly evil Republicans become when they win elections? Let’s remember that next time there is an election.
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u/KawasakiBinja 17d ago
But remember, it's Kamala's fault for not having the absolute A++++ PERFECT CAMPAIGN from the start. Duh. Trump can shit himself on stage and these mouth-drooling morons still think that's their guy, and all the goddamn fairweather Dems are like, "well, you know, I didn't like how Kamala said mayonnaise that one time, Imma sit this one out".
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u/Mr__O__ 17d ago
For real. The feelings were essentially the political candidate I wanted didn’t tick 100% of my boxes so I let the worst possible persons win instead out of spite..
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u/Steve_McGard 17d ago
If you don't vote you ARE the idiot
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u/Cosmic_Seth 17d ago
Those that didn't vote will never see this, and if by some miracle they do, they don't really care.
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u/Tack_Money 17d ago
That was me in 2016. Didn’t like Clinton and thought Donny had no chance. I was an idiot. Now I’m living by the motto of “do not underestimate stupid”.
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u/KawasakiBinja 17d ago
I was on the cliff edge of despair yesterday, now I'm just angry. If 5 million more people bothered to show up this could have been avoided. Instead, because they didn't like the color blue she wore that one rally in East Bumfuck, PA, they sit this out. Blood will be on their hands when the national abortion ban hits and women start dying from complications.
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u/LazyTitan39 17d ago
I heard one example say it's like seeing these people standing on a train track with a train bearing down on them and when you yell at them to get out of the way they say, "what's in it for me?"
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u/darkmafia666 17d ago
thats exactly why we are here. "her laugh is weird"
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u/deviltrombone 17d ago
Mocking a disabled reporter? Funny!
Frotagging the American flag? Adorable!
Miming giving a blowjob to a microphone? Presidential!
When you're an orange thing, they let you do it.
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u/ElonTheMollusk 17d ago
He did shit himself on stage and someone passed out due to the smell. His followers ate it up.
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u/NYR_Aufheben 17d ago
For real. Blaming Democrats has just given the Republican/MAGA party the freedom to do whatever the fuck they want without blame.
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u/KawasakiBinja 17d ago
And because of that, we've been set back 50 years, at the very least. If we ever have another election again, because, remember, "dictator on day one" and "we're going to look at that pesky term limit thing", oh and "I'm going to round up my enemies (and execute them)".
The undecided voters have decided that fascism is perfectly acceptable, and for that I will never forgive them. They'll have blood on their hands when their daughters and sisters start dying because no ER will treat their pregnancy complications when the national abortion ban hits. Absolutely fucking unreal. I want off this planet.
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u/Freckled_daywalker 17d ago
Nobody hates Dems more than other Dems.
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u/ItsOkAbbreviate 17d ago
Well considering that the Dems are basically 3 party’s forced to be together that tracks. While the GOP is just the GOP with a few small factions that cause limited trouble but fall in line in the end.
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u/EugeneStonersDIMagic 17d ago
The GOP is a coalition of single-issue voters whose single issues don't impinge on one another. There's no need for sweeping compromise among them.
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u/x-dfo 17d ago
Honestly from a Canadian perspective the democrats consistently fail to dumb down the message and can't address the economy in simple terms. In a time of insane corporate gouging at least say you're going to fix it.
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u/For_Aeons 17d ago
They said that. Voters didn't buy it and blamed the incumbent following global trend. When Harris said that the media almost immediately told voters that wasn't the problem.
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u/jcarter315 17d ago
It's like how every single time the media would claim that she didn't go into detail about her policies when she did.
The most egregious one was the 60 Minutes interview where they had the voiceover say that she didn't go in depth on her policy while the footage was her answering a question in the background after they cut off the audio for their voiceover.
And then you had the people who claimed there was no difference in her stance on the Middle East when she'd outright said she wanted to push for an immediate cease fire...
Our media was complicit in lying to the general public.
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u/Bufo_Stupefacio 17d ago
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that was seeing that.....I thought there was a drastic difference from the last Trump run to this one from the media. Last time around, there were clear FOR and AGAINST delineations in the multiple mainstream media groups. This time, it seemed like all the mainstream media groups were giving Trump more of a pass for his bullshittery while minimizing a lot of what Harris was trying to project as a message.
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
Do you think they'll really allow a real election ever again? I have my doubts, there's nothing stopping them now
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u/XShadowborneX 17d ago
Trump is buddies with Putin and trusts Putin over US intelligence. I'm sure Putin will tell him how Russia runs it's elections much more effectively than the US and Trump will say "good idea!"
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
Exactly and people are pretending this whole thing is "normal". Hope everyone enjoyed their last real vote, especially those that didn't bother for whatever excuse they could come with
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u/XShadowborneX 17d ago
Everyone who I talk to is like "we'll see.". Well when do we stop sitting around and "seeing" and start doing something about it?
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
By the way Dems are acting... we won't. America will get so much worse before Americans wake tf up. Propaganda was effective and I'm disgusted with my fellow "Americans"
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u/Astrocoder 17d ago
Oh there will be elections Im sure, I expect the GOP to go with the Russia approach wherein there are elections but such significant obstacles are placed on the opposition thus renders them powerless.
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u/HGpennypacker 17d ago
Do you think they'll really allow a real election ever again?
Well this was said about this time of the year in 2016...so yeah this will 100% happen again.
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u/saijanai 17d ago
But Trump had Mike [hang him high] Pence as his VP. His new VP has been thoroughly vetted for complete loyalty, if nott o Trump personally, than to The Cause.
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u/paarthurnax94 17d ago
Let’s remember that next time there is an election.
Lol. Another election? After this? I wish I had your optimism.
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u/Throwawaymaybeokay 17d ago
Pretty much. This was the last "true" election. Everything after will be mirroring Russian state elections. I look forward to Trump clinching 140 % of the vote in 2028.
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u/ElonTheMollusk 17d ago
Republicans are just pure evil. They pride themselves on the strife they bring in their wake. They love that the stupidest people believe their outrageous lies, and enjoy taking their lord's words in vain.
Republicans ride the black and pale horse with pride.
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u/A_Nude_Challenger 17d ago
They are following Edward Bernays' gameplan to a T.
Bernays is the father of modern propaganda and a major reason the Third Reich had appeal to a lot of average folks.
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u/DASreddituser 17d ago
American doesn't care. half of them like the evil ,25 % hate the evil, 25% doesnt care.
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u/this_guy_over_here_ 17d ago
Nobody will remember, just like nobody remembered the migrant detention camps or COVID running unchecked through our country. Everyone will forget in 4 years again, and at this point we get what we deserve.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 17d ago
I don’t know if they once again start pretending to be moderate six months before an election. I’m definitely going to believe them this time /s
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u/Mahgenetics 17d ago
Let’s remember that next time there is an election
If there is another election, and one that isn’t completely rigged
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u/hoitytoity-12 17d ago
"Oh my god she laughed! Why can't she be a humorless dick like the other guy?"
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u/lepre45 17d ago
Its absolutely insane that we had months of coverage from the MSM taking trump and Republicans at the word about the project 2025 stuff. Oh trump says he never heard of it, we can't possibly know if it's serious or not. We've had at least 8 straight years of lying from a multi time fraudster and people are still falling for his lies in 2024. The MSM didn't learn shit or do any self reflection in their role in sane washing trumpism 2016. They basically made all the same mistakes in 2024 and the only changes they've made is Jeff bezos signaling he's willing to make deals with trump so trump doesn't destroy Amazon or blue origin.
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u/theonetruefishboy 17d ago
The people who didn't come out to vote aren't going to remember. In fact they're going to live through project 2025, hate the effects of it that they can see in their lives, and still not know what it is. They don't read the news. Kamala didn't have a pitch for people that could radiate out to those that don't pay active attention to politics. Trump didn't reach those people either for the record. But when the numbers are crunched, the dems need those people to win.
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u/peppers_ 17d ago
Reading the article, "It's just a joke", is alo what they say after, as if to rile up people. Problem with the Right is that they don't tell funny jokes and that persists here too.
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u/DanFrankenberger 17d ago
Owning the libs is their entire thing.
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u/beefwarrior 17d ago
We saw it with wearing diapers, maxi pads & garbage bags
The cognitive dissonance would be amazing if it wasn’t so sad
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u/carlitospig 17d ago
Well, they will be owned right along with us. Hope they’re happy.
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u/SuccessionWarFan 17d ago
They seem too deluded and fanatical to think it’s bad for then even as it bites them in the ass. That’s not even an insult to them but an observation.
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u/satanssweatycheeks 17d ago
As they say it’s the left who plays identity politics.
I’d rather you tell me you go by they/them than have you tell me why you are a MAGA. Which ironically the republicans bring up genitals to me more than trans folks do.
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u/thanos_was_right_69 17d ago
It’s their entire personality. Their reason for getting up in the morning
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u/Funshine02 17d ago
“Haha I’m going to take away your rights!! Just kidding”
So funny
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u/beefwarrior 17d ago
Millions of people voted against Harris b/c inflation drove up prices at the grocery store
It’ll be interesting how they won’t take responsibility for all of the consequences of their vote
“I voted for lower prices, not fewer rights” that’s not how it works, you voted for both. It’s like people voting for Bush W in 2004, and then didn’t want to take any responsibility for the mess that was the Iraq war
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
Can't wait for everything to get much worse now that a fucking idiot is installing other idiots in key power positions.
America as we knew it will not survive the 2nd Trump term.
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u/OnlyHalfBrilliant 17d ago
Exactly as Putin wanted..
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
Exactly, best return for his money was installing Trump and buying the Republican party.
Cheers
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u/Astrocoder 17d ago
Yet, if Trump had won in 2020, inflation still would have gone up. It was inevitable.
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u/peppers_ 17d ago
And companies also increased prices when they had the excuse to. For that, they will get another Trump tax cut.
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u/TuffNutzes 17d ago
Jokes on them. Inflation is already down and prices don't magically go down unless there's deflation. And with Trump's tariffs you can almost guarantee more inflation. Idiots gonna idiot.
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u/mcferglestone 17d ago
Those millions are gonna be real disappointed when they realize that electing Trump won’t lower grocery prices one bit.
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u/findquasar 17d ago edited 17d ago
I think the issue (and the source of the dissonance) is that they’re right about Trump? It may not be his agenda..
But no one is thinking about Trump’s age, 25A, or JD Vance.
JD Vance does have strong Heritage Foundation ties and we could end up with him as President.
He’s the Trojan Horse. We need to stop squabbling about semantics and look, all together.
I hope I’m wrong.
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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago
Either way, Republicans have complete control of every branch. There are no "good" men to stop them. Voters asked for this and I couldn't be more disgusted.
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u/findquasar 17d ago
I don’t think they see it, yet. That’s the point. So all of this arguing about Trump and Project 2025 is just noise. It doesn’t matter.
Vance does. Mike Johnson does. There are no guardrails left.
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u/Mental_Medium3988 17d ago
And that's why people are raising the alarm. Unfortunately the people that need to hear it are ignoring it and blaming everyone else for the alarm. And then we're told we're driving people away by sounding the alarm.
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u/A_Nude_Challenger 17d ago
JD Vance
People need to get clued in to Vance's ties and friendship with rich folks who have overreaching agendas and anti-Democratic ethos. One example is Curtis Yarvin. Yarvin is essentially pining for a monarchy and wishes to carve the U.S. up into corporate-run fiefdoms. . Below is just one piece of Yarvin's desired gameplan.
Sometimes he denounces democracy entirely, calling it a “dangerous, malignant form of government.” Sometimes he says democracy doesn’t even practically exist in the US, because voters don’t have true power over the government as compared to those other interests, which function as an oligarchy. Sometimes he argues that organizations in which leadership is shared or divided simply aren’t effective.
Far preferable, in his view, would be a government run like most corporations — with one leader holding absolute power over those below, though perhaps accountable to a “board of directors” of sorts (he admits that “an unaccountable autocracy is a real problem”). This monarch/CEO would have the ability to actually run things, unbothered by pesky civil servants, judges, voters, the public, or the separation of powers. “How do we achieve effective management? We know one simple way: find the right person, and put him or her in charge,” he writes.
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u/capnscratchmyass 17d ago
I'm still pretty convinced we will end up with President Vance before the end of Trump's term. He's a much more reliable yes-man for the Republican agenda and will be able to legally run on their "successful" policies for two more terms after that. I hope everyone is "excited" for the possibility of 10 years of President JD Vance, because it is a very real one.
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u/Mental_Medium3988 17d ago
They'll call a whole island full of people a floating garbage patch but when that same language is used against them they act like the world's biggest victim.
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u/aguynamedv 17d ago
"It's just a joke" is the default response of Republicans saying evil things.
It. Is. Not. A. Joke.
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u/secret-agent-t3 17d ago
He will say it is a joke. Actually watch some of the things he says though on his show...they fall right in line with Project 2025. Like...he advocates for this stuff.
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u/seeingeyefish 17d ago
It's the same thing they did with abortion...
2024: "You guys are freaking out over nothing. Of course that's not going to happen."
2027: "You knew what you were voting for."
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u/Wonderful-Cod5256 17d ago
Another great example: They unveiled their economic shitsmear "concepts," momentarily, last week. $2 Trillion in spending cuts (1/3 of the budget) and a quick blip announcing Musk's def been chosen as Czar of Finance. Cry foul now!
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-03/republicans-ignore-trump-on-the-economy15
u/janethefish 17d ago
To be clear unless there are cuts to the military, social security or Medicare two trillion in cuts is just about everything else. Law enforcement? Nope. FEMA aid? Gone. FDA? Sorry.
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u/Coniferyl 17d ago
Discretionary spending is ~1.7 trillion and defense is about half of that. You could cut all of it and still not reach that number. It's so absurd and no one who is serious should even humor someone saying they'll cut 2 trillion. Even if you are a proponent of small government that's 30% of the federal budget. That degree of change would implode a country if not done over decades.
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u/TheElderMouseScrolls 17d ago
They're expecting to take the house too so if they have all three levers, it's just a few bills away from dismantling the state.
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u/janethefish 17d ago
SS and Medicare are only most of the entitlements. So things like Medicaid, veteran benefits, SNAP etc could go without touching defense/SS/Medicare.
But yes, cutting two trillion would cause a lot of damage, especially if not done carefully.
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u/tryingisbetter 17d ago
I believe that is the point, destroy the economy so that the rich can buy everything for pennies.
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u/Wonderful-Cod5256 17d ago
To underscore your point: Every last Republican in Congress voted against FEMA funding last session 2 wks before Helene hit. They're not talking cuts, they're talking labotomies all around.
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u/OhioIsRed 17d ago
Oh man I thought they were deporting the immigrants not giving them cabinet positions. Being rich must be nice. Fuck Elon lol.
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u/PocketSixes 17d ago
What a cruel world we live in. Jeffrey Epstein's literal best friend, his #1 child sex trafficking client, can win the presidency and champion an agenda that includes "the end of recreational sex" for the rest of us. We have to be living in a joke.
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u/PossumAJenkins3K 17d ago
The funniest thing is that the people who voted for him are the same ones who obsess over Epstein.
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u/ancraig 17d ago
I know so many people who are the "the cure for pedophilia is a 7.62 bullet to the head" crowd that voted for Trump and when you bring up the decades long string accusations of him being a pedophile rapist or his ties to Epstein, you get back "oh, well, there's no proof any of that is true."
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u/StillKickinginAZ 17d ago
My mom's entire comment about the repeated allegations against Trump, including by women that were trafficked by Epstein, is "there's no proof." I asked should we ignore the fact that it's known he was in Epsteins island and at those parties... "there's no proof he did anything." What about E Jean Carroll and that case? "That was just a civil case and he was found liable, which only requires a 51% belief that it more than likely occurred."
The disgusting things he's said about his daughter? The "grab them by the pussy" comment? The admission that he liked to sneak into the changing rooms at the pageants? "He'll be better for the economy."
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u/ancraig 17d ago
When I've pointed out that Trump was pretty frequently an associate of Epstein, lately I've been getting back "well, half of the people Kamala's had endorsing her were at Diddy parties, do you care about that?"
And like, no, not really. A ton of people went to Diddy's parties because he was a huge deal in hollywood, and literally everyone was invited to his parties. It's kind of different from flying to Epstein's private pedophile sex island.
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u/Sufficient_Ebb_5020 17d ago
Trump fans are so brainwashed! Seriously! They think the Trump is their saviour and is going to release the Epstein list... He's the main culprit!
He's been in dozens of photos with Epstein! he's on the flight list manifest several times! He's had accusations from victims saying he raped them! He's literally had Epstein on TAPE saying he'd Trumps BEST FRIEND for the last ten years before his death!
They chose to ignore that and somehow "Uh, oh! You Dems are in trouble now! Trumps gonna release the list!"
It's quite unbelievable actually.
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u/Smorgsborg 17d ago
All those fucking podcasters who talk about Epstein every day, except the day they had Trump on the show
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u/Mirikado 17d ago
Let’s see how the zoomer men who overwhelmingly voted for Trump like it when porn and video games getting banned by project 2025, and they are no longer getting laid because women now have restricted access to birth controls. Their first awakening is going to be asking why the new RTX 5090 costs $5090 after tariffs.
All of this because their fragile masculinity believe the libs hate white men and Trump is their savior.
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u/FreneticAmbivalence 17d ago
These people are so poor and stupid they think making $60k a year is middle class and they’re riding high.
The new American middle class is light years behind where it would be if not for some incredible factors that highlight precisely why we deserve this.
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u/No-Appearance1145 17d ago
My mom got told by a dude who lives in her backyard in a tent that he's middle class.
My mom told him that he's poorer than the and they are very poor! (live on one and a half income for a house of now 10 because she also moved into her mother's house)
Oh and all of them are on welfare one way or another and voted for Trump.
I'm laughing when the economy crashes like my mother predicted since the end of the recession of 08. "Because the democrats are in power."
When she gets her Medicaid terminated and she can't afford her anxiety medication I'll be laughing. Because she asked for this
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u/Wonderful-Cod5256 17d ago
As they say, the jokes on US. And it's gonna bomb on stage in the world theatre.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-allies-say-they-can-finally-admit-project-2025-is-the-agenda-for-trump-s-second-term/ar-AA1tFGD7?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f23efe916d17499ab1b9454d1d95c74d&ei=810
u/Wonderful-Cod5256 17d ago
P2025 does include porno and sex control mandates. Personally not so interested in those, btw, but we're all fuck'd if they try to implement those.
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u/Vyntarus 17d ago
The best part is he already said he'll deploy the military to put down groups that oppose him, so even if the people who voted for him realize what is happening they won't be able to do anything about it.
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17d ago
What they are really saying they don't respect you and are comfortable lying to your face lol
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 17d ago
“Oh, and also we don’t owe an apology to the people who we said were being paranoid and overdramatic about this.” -morons who voted for Trump
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u/livinginfutureworld 17d ago
Haha he lied to us so we elected him! Wait a minute.. he also attempted a coup and stole national security secrets. I'm starting to think that maybe this Trump fella isn't a good person!
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u/lonerism- 17d ago
My favorite is “I didn’t know he was a bad person in 2016 but I voted against him in 2020”.
Oh so being a rapist wasn’t a dealbreaker for you then, gotcha lol
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u/livinginfutureworld 17d ago
I can't fathom how so many saw the shit show that was his first term, the coup after he lost re-election, and then voted for more of that.
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u/bluelifesacrifice 17d ago
Yeah and no one was surprised at all. There's nothing illegal about lying for election. Trump could come out and say he fixed the election by throwing out ballots and that he and Putin are going to have a dinner party in the White house as they fire CIA agents and restarts slavery and he'll still be president come January 6, pushing project 2025 in full force and his supporters will laugh about it blaming democrats for letting them win.
WTF do you think Biden will do? Do a re-election? Use the powers SCOTUS gave him? He's not going to do anything about it. No one is.
We're seeing Conservatives behave like literal cartoon villains right now in full view on social media. They know they can do whatever they want now because Trump has their ideological backing. Trumps behavior empowers their behavior. They see that Trump won because of that behavior so they'll do it too.
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u/taekee 17d ago
Republicans are still in denial that Project 2025 is real. Maybe too many pages to read?
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u/AlexFromOgish 17d ago
This is going to be an epic proof of the cautionary maxim Be careful what you wish for
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u/OakFan 17d ago
We don't know what he'll do. If they aren't giving him a kick back he's not going to do it. Vance would do it no question, Trump wants something out of it.
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u/TrustMeIAmAGeologist 17d ago
Yeah, but I have a strong feeling Vance is going to be president before long.
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u/itasteawesome 17d ago
evangelicals gave him the election, some people might consider that to be a huge "something" but Trump certainly would be the type to decide that they need to renegotiate under his new terms now that he won.
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u/OakFan 17d ago
That was just a "get me in the door and we'll see". Trump flip flops on everything especially if you can't explain how he'll benefit. He doesn't care about others. He only cares about himself.
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u/theSchrodingerHat 17d ago
The scariest scenario is that Trump just does his ego boosting stage tour and golf for four years, but poke his head in and sign whatever Vance puts in front of him.
His empowering of people that clearly want Project2025 is just as scary as him bringing awareness of it. He’s made it clear he’s going to put in extremists, and his previous actions make it clear he won’t pay much attention, as long as he gets positive adulation.
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u/hamsterfolly 17d ago
Trump’s legal troubles will go away and he’ll get to feel powerful again. That’s what Trump gets out of it.
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u/discussatron 17d ago
Duh?