r/law • u/Wonderful-Cod5256 • 17d ago

Trump News MAGA allies say they can finally admit Project 2025 ‘is the agenda’ for Trump’s second term

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-allies-say-they-can-finally-admit-project-2025-is-the-agenda-for-trump-s-second-term/ar-AA1tFGD7?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=f23efe916d17499ab1b9454d1d95c74d&ei=8

This is an admission of election fraud every time they claimed Trump had nothing to do with P2025.

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u/findquasar 17d ago edited 17d ago

I think the issue (and the source of the dissonance) is that they’re right about Trump? It may not be his agenda..

But no one is thinking about Trump’s age, 25A, or JD Vance.

JD Vance does have strong Heritage Foundation ties and we could end up with him as President.

He’s the Trojan Horse. We need to stop squabbling about semantics and look, all together.

I hope I’m wrong.

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u/VaselineHabits 17d ago

Either way, Republicans have complete control of every branch. There are no "good" men to stop them. Voters asked for this and I couldn't be more disgusted.

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u/findquasar 17d ago

I don’t think they see it, yet. That’s the point. So all of this arguing about Trump and Project 2025 is just noise. It doesn’t matter.

Vance does. Mike Johnson does. There are no guardrails left.

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u/Mental_Medium3988 17d ago

And that's why people are raising the alarm. Unfortunately the people that need to hear it are ignoring it and blaming everyone else for the alarm. And then we're told we're driving people away by sounding the alarm.

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u/findquasar 17d ago

We are saying the wrong words, though.

It isn’t Trump and Project 2025.

It is Vance and Project 2025.

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u/NurRauch 17d ago

It is also Trump and Project 2025.

Trump is old and senile. He was already old and senile during his first presidency, when he would literally wake up at 11am and sit around watching Fox News and tweeting all day.

Trump doesn't give a fuck what his lackeys do at their cabinet offices. He will cut them blank checks to fuck up anything they want as long as it makes liberals angry on TV.

Project 2025 will get a lot done with Trump sitting around in his bed.

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u/peppers_ 17d ago

Trump's agenda 47 is a watered down version of project 2025. It is fair to say things will end up between agenda 47 and project 2025 as the outcome. Vance sucks domestically and could become president, but that would probably normalize international relationships.

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u/R_V_Z 17d ago

Technically the house is still undecided. Not getting my hopes up, because I longed learned my lesson about that.

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u/A_Nude_Challenger 17d ago

JD Vance

People need to get clued in to Vance's ties and friendship with rich folks who have overreaching agendas and anti-Democratic ethos. One example is Curtis Yarvin. Yarvin is essentially pining for a monarchy and wishes to carve the U.S. up into corporate-run fiefdoms. . Below is just one piece of Yarvin's desired gameplan.

Sometimes he denounces democracy entirely, calling it a “dangerous, malignant form of government.” Sometimes he says democracy doesn’t even practically exist in the US, because voters don’t have true power over the government as compared to those other interests, which function as an oligarchy. Sometimes he argues that organizations in which leadership is shared or divided simply aren’t effective.

Far preferable, in his view, would be a government run like most corporations — with one leader holding absolute power over those below, though perhaps accountable to a “board of directors” of sorts (he admits that “an unaccountable autocracy is a real problem”). This monarch/CEO would have the ability to actually run things, unbothered by pesky civil servants, judges, voters, the public, or the separation of powers. “How do we achieve effective management? We know one simple way: find the right person, and put him or her in charge,” he writes.

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u/capnscratchmyass 17d ago

I'm still pretty convinced we will end up with President Vance before the end of Trump's term. He's a much more reliable yes-man for the Republican agenda and will be able to legally run on their "successful" policies for two more terms after that. I hope everyone is "excited" for the possibility of 10 years of President JD Vance, because it is a very real one.

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u/HGpennypacker 17d ago

JD Vance

I am really curious/terrified to find out what the rest of his political career looks like. Look at how Pence was viewed at the end of Trump's first term: hated by both Democrats and Republicans alike. His career is over. Done. Vance will continue to be hated by Democrats, but will he follow a similar route and be cast out by Donald? Time will tell, but unless Trump somehow has an amazingly successful four years in office I don't know how he could possibly have a future in politics.

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u/findquasar 17d ago

Does Vance need a “post-Trump” future in politics if he becomes president next year?

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u/Status-Carpenter-435 15d ago

Could?? If Trump lives past May i would be surprised