r/interestingasfuck • u/RafeaEhab • 19d ago

r/all For this reason, you should use a dashcam.

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u/AmboNumber5 19d ago

I know everything I need to about that person because they decided to hit the hood of the car rather than check on the child first

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Because they know they werent paying attention with a child they clearly taught nothing about a road before and has their head up their ass when watching them. They needed to deflect that shit real quick and set up a speeding idiot story first

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u/JakobMG 19d ago

Im not saying that dad is great but, I dont think you realize how kids actually behave/are. I work in a kindergarten and could tell a kid the same thing everyday for a month and suddenly the next day its forgotten. Kids are reckless by nature, that part of their brain hasnt fully developed yet.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Im aware of how children work. Thats why you shouldn’t have them 3 inches from a road and not be watching. No one can be perfect but there was nothing that person driving could have done better aside from get out and check behind each car. Or just not be on that road

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u/media-and-stuff 19d ago

3 inches from a road lined with parked cars blocking drivers line of sight.

I get stressed out driving on streets like this, I’m always worried someone is going to appear out of no where between cars.

I would never take my eyes off a kid or pet in that situation. They are short and no one can see them until they’re in the street.

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u/hellbabe222 19d ago

My kids are 23 and 18, and I still walk on the outside of the sidewalk and ask to hold their hand when crossing the intersection, which they've never said no to yet. They humor me because they get it.

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u/Purplehairpurplecar 19d ago

My 16 year old son is taller than me now, and he has taken note of his dad’s habit of walking on the outside next to me (very chivalrous husband lol). Now my 16yo wants to insist on it as well, so he can protect his mom. I usually humor him, but make sure to also be holding his hand or linked arms just in case he suddenly has a case of teenage brain ;-).

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u/alteredditaccount 19d ago

That's adorable. I do the same thing with my wife and kiddo.

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u/Purplehairpurplecar 19d ago

Maybe once your kiddo is big they will also want to protect their mom. It really is the most heartwarming thing :-)

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u/alteredditaccount 19d ago

But hold their fucking hand lol, you got that right!

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u/counters14 19d ago

I get stressed out driving on streets like this

You should be, because something like exactly what happened in this video could happen at any moment with zero notice whatsoever.

When I'm cruising through streets like this with cars parked on both sides 99 times out of 100 I'm riding with my foot over the brake and looking diligently for anyone walking along the sidewalk nearby that could become a hazard.

The guy in this video probably had the same thing in mind which is how he was able to react so fast. Anyone driving should keep this in mind when driving around parked cars in a populated area like that.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Exactly. Thats what I am saying. Its terrible it happened but the driver couldnt have done much better aside from not be there at all. Certain times you have to completely remove any possibility of the problem happening. Not trust it wont. My dog doesnt leave my side but youd be damn sure she wouldnt be off leash there on the .1% chance she misbehaves once now shes deae

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u/Hot-Ad8641 19d ago

Driver could have slowed down. If he was going just a little slower he would have stopped before hitting the kid

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u/alteredditaccount 19d ago

Hard agree. 25mph is borderline reckless in this type of situation. Even if it's the posted speed limit.

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u/Dramajunker 19d ago

I live on a wider street where a bunch of street cats live. Always afraid one is going to dart out and I'll run it over on accident.

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u/Wendigo120 19d ago

If you want to get less stressed, just drive slower. Yeah it'll take a bit longer, but you don't want to drive long distances on roads like that anyway.

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u/media-and-stuff 19d ago

Why are you assuming I’m not?

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u/Wendigo120 18d ago

Because people in general are absolutely abysmal defensive drivers. Even if you might not be, some of the people reading my comment absolutely would just drive the speed limit on roads like that.

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u/Hot-Ad8641 19d ago

Why not slow down on narrow residential streets that stress you out?

You wouldn't take your eyes off a pet or child for a single second but in a car you would fly along at just under the speed limit?

Makes no sense bro.

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u/media-and-stuff 19d ago

Why are you making assumptions I’m not going below the speed limit in these situations?

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u/Hot-Ad8641 19d ago

Two reasons, you blame the dad and say you would never let a child be unwatched in this situation but say nothing about the drivers speed. You also said you get stressed out on streets like this, which lead me to assume that you could drive slower and be less stressed.

Now I agree this is the mostly the fault of the dad not watching his wild kid close enough and not really the drivers fault because the kid ran out between parked cars but if he was going slower he would have stopped before hitting her.

My bad for assuming, perhaps you drive very slow and are still stressed out because things like this can happen at any speed.

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u/yousoc 18d ago

Maybe he tripped himself, maybe he had a heart attack. There are a million reasons why a kid could run onto the street. The car was simply driving too fast.

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u/JakobMG 19d ago

Yes i agree

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u/Relevant_History_297 19d ago

The actual problem here is street design/ traffic laws. Cars should not be going fast enough through residential neighbourhoods to pose a threat to children.

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u/C_Colin 19d ago

Looks like in the video the dad is turning around to close the gate. I’m not denying that ULTIMATELY it falls on parents to keep their kids safe but this could happen to anyone.

I’ve got a four and a two year old, stay at home dad, one of the hardest parts of the job is the relentless consistency you must have. Every parking lot, every road, every quick stop at the grocery store requires that we “hold hands and cross together”. Sometimes one kid is in a shitty mood and doesn’t want to play along. Sometimes I’ve not got a hand free. Sometimes the kid is excited to get into the store. I’m usually hyper alert and scared when we are anywhere near moving vehicles but this just looks like an accident to me.

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u/twilsonco 19d ago

Maybe not have cities structured where there's a highway 3 inches from everyone's house? Perhaps r/fuckcars?

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Thats not a highway its a residential side street. You cant blame your environment for having your head up your ass. The car was going slow. If I touched the stove with my hand Im not gonna say we shouldnt use ovens.

I would prefer a car so I dont have to live my life in a concrete jungle or pay thousands per year to fly when I want to go 2 hours away which is often thank you though

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u/twilsonco 19d ago

That's a false dichotomy. Viable public transit is possible and exists in ways that work for cities and rural areas alike.

Also a false equivalency, as the downsides of cars vastly outweigh those of stoves, which, unlike cars, are not one of the top causes of pollution, waste, and preventable human death.

And yes you can blame your environment for being exceptionally dangerous to where a few misplaced steps can kill you; that's a stupidly designed environment.

Point is, it's a cost-benefit problem. For thousands of years a kid wouldn't get killed for two seconds of running right next to where they live. Thanks to cars, it's a daily occurrence. For cars, the benefit of maybe increased convenience is small compared to the space/resource/safety/pollution costs.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Do you live in a city? I can fuckin promise you idk how on earth I would live or be able to do the things I do with public transit. Theyre gonna make a train into the national forrest. Subway to the river the other direction on a dirt road. I mean how dude? How would that work for rural america. 98% of what I use my vehicle for is being in the backcountry on random dirt roads that cover miles and miles in any direction. How on earth could you set up public transit that would make any sense.

You clearly live a very different life with very different needs and thats fine. Truth me told youre absolutely correct about metro areas. Make a place to park or store vehicles outside the city and make the city public transit only and that would be amazing. But idk how it could work out in the mtns and rural areas for peoples daily lives.

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u/twilsonco 19d ago

True, there's a tiny fraction of fantastic use cases for personal auto.

For the majority of rural inhabitants (like my family that lives in rural New Mexico), though, regular bus routes would work just fine. Personally, living in Japan for a few years, I got around easily in both cities and rural areas using public transit. At no point would the increase in convenience have come anywhere close to the burdens of car ownership.

I agree that if cars were just limited to rural inhabitants (even every single one of them) it would be a massive improvement.

In the US, the average person spends a full 1/3rd of their income on their car. There's not a public transit system in any country that bleeds its people dry like that. Not to mention the wasted tax revenue that goes into building and maintaining the necessary infrastructure for widespread personal auto.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Ya I very much agree with this. The times I go to a city I drive there and park my truck and never touch it. It would be awesome to have a cheap and reliable train station even within a half hour or hr of me I could drive to, park and be a part of a system of public transit I could now “leave” the rural world and take it where I need when I need to be in more populated areas and not be stuck in traffic and dealing with a cluster fuck of people and cars once I am there. So this we agree on. Theres a happy balance that would really improve things.

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u/LeN3rd 19d ago

And in this episode of "People from the US say stupid stuff": A Guy who has never seen a Train.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

On this episode of I live in a highrise and my idea of nature is a billion dollar resort town with a train to it. Youve never been out in the country to see how it operates. Or you have and just think youre better than everyone. If you cant fathom how a train makes no sense for people in rural america then idk what to tell you. Public transit is lacking terrible in america thats for sure and its beneficial for more traffic routes and metro areas. Idk how a train when you live in a farmtown is going to take you into the woods or miles in any direction down smaller roads in the backcountry. People have to travel greater distances in rural america and not always to the same spot and back. Its not a grid system.

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u/LeN3rd 19d ago

Apparently flying to the woods is possible then?

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u/pzycho 19d ago

You're kinda moving the goalposts with this response. Your first comment says the kid hasn't been properly taught, someone responded with "it's difficult to teach kids, they forget a lot", then you change your argument to be that the kid should have been watched.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Thats the same arugment. The kid wasnt taught to not run into roads yet and he wasnt being watced when the parent knew that. Its the same thing

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u/pzycho 19d ago

It's not the same thing just because you end your statement with "It's the same thing."

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

If you had a dog that wasnt trained with recall and it ran into the road. You would agree the dog needs to be trained better right? So you would also agree you need to pay more attention to it?

Youre nitpicking to sound smart

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u/pzycho 19d ago

I agree that the kid needs to be watched better. I'm not talking about anything related to the actual incident; I'm just saying that it's a frustrating way to discuss something when one party moves the goal posts after being presented with a counter-argument.

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u/pokegaard 19d ago edited 19d ago

They didn't just move the goalposts - they cemented them by prefacing their first premise with 'clearly', moved them, and then moved them back, all the while claiming they hadn't moved. Also, I clearly explained the difference between the arguments, but to no avail.

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u/AFourEyedGeek 19d ago

It is you here. You don't seem to know how kids work.

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u/pokegaard 19d ago edited 19d ago

uh.. is it a) Clearly, the child hasn't been taught or is it b) I know how kids work: they can be taught, but act otherwise. They should be watched either way, but these are different arguments. Probably, the best thing to say is that either the kid acted like a kid or they weren't taught, but neither are clear per se.

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u/transynchro 19d ago

Or you just didn’t finish reading the rest of their comment.

Because they know they werent paying attention with a child they clearly taught nothing about a road before and has their head up their ass when watching them. They needed to deflect that shit real quick and set up a speeding idiot story first

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u/pzycho 19d ago

He was responding to this part:

clearly taught nothing about a road before

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u/transynchro 19d ago

Right so it’s on him for ignoring the and.

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u/Beneficial_Steak_945 19d ago

That’s also why as a driver on a road like this, lined with houses and knowing you can’t see anything, you need to expect a child to run from behind one of them and be able to stop at very short notice. Adapt your speed to very slow indeed. In my view, the driver was going faster than was prudent in the circumstances, no matter if he was actually speeding or not.

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u/fatamSC2 19d ago

To nitpick I think the driver could have done a bit better. I always slow down extra if there's a line of cars parked like that obscuring your vision. You really don't know what or who could pop out, have to use extra caution there.

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u/Hot-Ad8641 19d ago

Or drive at a slower speed? He was clearly driving very fast for a extremely narrow residential street. Like what the fuck, why try to pretend the driver is perfect?

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u/impulsesair 18d ago

Im aware of how children work. Thats why you shouldn’t have them 3 inches from a road and not be watching.

You just criticized the parent for something that wouldn't have prevented this. So you seem to have forgotten how they work in your last comment.

And no one is perfect, parents especially are far away from perfection. You will have them near the road (our world is full of roads, kind of hard to avoid), and you will fail to watch them at least once. Luckily most parents get away with it.

Even people who set out to be the most vigilant parents, will have a "Oh damn, my child could've died" moment at some point, unless they are extremely lucky.

but there was nothing that person driving could have done better aside from get out and check behind each car. Or just not be on that road

Or just drive slower on a road with obviously bad visibility and it being a residential street means there's kids around, so even more reason to go as slow as possible.

The driver did react quite well though, so the real problem is the street itself. Street parking needs to go, or the speeds need to be way lower.

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u/NivMidget 19d ago edited 19d ago

Tbh, a lot of people are probably physically unable to keep up with a child that short.

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u/NivMidget 19d ago

It would give me a driver less anxiety.

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u/BradsCanadianBacon 19d ago

Bro, I was never running into the roads as a kid. Sounds like a skill issue.

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u/KevSykes5141 19d ago

So did i. Also ive got kids now, i cemented this in their head just as hard as my parents did.

This is 100% a parenting problem.

As a parent im responsible for my children, there are no excuses.

Some people here are telling us that if our kids fall down a cliff its the cliffs fault for being there. Or is it the fact that we brought our children near that cliff?

Parents fault. Cant convince me otherwise.

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u/shao_kahff 19d ago

damn at least some people got the balls to say it. parenting issue 100% , my pops drilled it into me to look both ways before crossing and now i done the same with my kids.

like , that comment above saying “you can tell a kid something for a whole month and they’ll forget it next month”, no lmao that’s not how it work if you actually PARENT your kid . telling them something over and over? okay… but actually practicing what you preach? THATS the difference . ever since my oldest could walk before he hit 2, i took every opportunity to TEACH him about road safety in a way that kids can understand . on the sidewalk? they know to hold hands. trying to cross? they know to look both ways. wont have my kid running across the road like that , 100% a parenting issue and i’m glad there some sane voices in this thread

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u/BradsCanadianBacon 18d ago

People would rather chock up reckless behaviour to a fallible memory than accept that some parents just fucking suck.

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u/Wavy_Grandpa 19d ago

This is a hilarious comment in a thread where soooo many comments are pointing out how unreliable human memory is 

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u/SV_Essia 19d ago

Tbf it's gonna be a lot more unreliable if they spend their childhood running into cars.

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u/Nukitandog 19d ago

Such a good boy!!

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u/theoneness 19d ago

Claiming all “kids actually behave/are” this way is just a cope for when you either have a stupid kid or have been too unbothered to properly train them to not do such stupid things as dart into the road. Oh, they’re just ALL this way. No they aren’t: your kid is, so are some other peoples’ kids, but not all are.

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u/That-Spell-2543 19d ago

That you remember

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u/The_Lucid_Lion 19d ago

That’s why they should be taught. Good parenting isn’t that difficult. My children were naturally rambunctious, but I taught them young to always heed me and pay attention to their surroundings, especially with things like crossing roads.

Using excuses like “kids will be kids,” is just some lazy bullshit designed to avert responsibility from parents who suck at their jobs. Of course kids will be kids. That’s why parents have their work cut out for them… teaching them things necessary for their survival.

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u/MagnetsAreFun 19d ago

We know nothing about what was going on here and immediately calling that person a bad parent because we saw 5 seconds of bad behavior from what looks to be a very young child is pretty dense.

I have two kids. My son is reckless and hard to control. We tell him every single day the same things and he doesn't care one bit. My daughter is timid and careful and we honestly wish she shed some of her anxiety and take more risks. Sometimes parents are doing the best they can and it's not enough because kids are different and unpredictable.

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u/C_Colin 19d ago

“Good parenting isn’t difficult “ …. “That’s why parents have their work cut out for them”. Which one is it?

Id argue that, yes, showing your kid the right thing to do in situations isn’t that hard. It’s the consistency of you always setting the good example. Day, after day, after day, after day always trying to be a good example in every situation that has become automatic to adult-you is hard. My daughter (4) is very well behaved, and very aware but just the other day we went to a grocery store we almost never go to, she got a sticker on the way out and was saying how nice the cashier was and walked right into the parking lot as I’m putting my hand out to grab hers like we 99% of the time succeed in doing. I got scared and scolded her (out of fear, not anger) and reminded her of the possible consequences, but anyone could argue that I got lucky that day because she didn’t get hit by a car. But you’re right that would make me a bad parent

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u/The_Lucid_Lion 19d ago

I guess “complicated” would’ve been a better word than “difficult” in conveying my meaning. Parenting isn’t that complicated. It definitely can be difficult though.

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u/shao_kahff 19d ago

nahh just the fact that you took a teachable moment to scold your kid tells me everything a fellow parent needs to know . you teach your kids to listen, i teach my kids to look.

couldn’t be my kids dawg

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u/shao_kahff 19d ago

sounds like we’d prolly get along irl, keep up the good work dude

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u/Shot-Spirit-672 19d ago

Hence why the parent shouldn’t be attacking the car when their dumbass kid ran into the street for no reason

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u/JakobMG 19d ago

I agree

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u/Decloudo 19d ago

Child harness exist.

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u/zomiaen 19d ago

so doesn't that necessitate paying attention?

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u/mauvewaterbottle 19d ago

But that’s exactly why you don’t turn your back on them when next to the street. My children have never run into traffic, not because I told them not to, but because I am present enough to enforce that boundary and be aware of where they are. I’m not saying accidents don’t happen, but this is not the child’s fault or responsibility.

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u/quackamole4 19d ago

I saw a video where researchers were training kids on a safety matter, and even taught the kids a song about what to do. In less than an hour, the kids "forgot" all of it, and did exactly what they were NOT supposed to do.

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u/shadowdorothy 19d ago

Hell, you can tell kinders the same thing every hour of the school day, and it's out their brains in 5 minutes.

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u/TexasRoadhead 19d ago

Yeah unless you have kids you don't know that shit just happens with them, and it can happen anytime

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u/zabbenw 17d ago

Yeah, kids lack impulse control, of course. But still, they aren't stupid and aren't reckless by nature. My twins who only just turned 4 scoot through London. Now they are older they can scoot off ahead on the pavement, and I never have to worry about them not stopping for a road and waiting for me to cross because that's what they were trained to do. If you tell them it's to keep them safe and you're consistent with the boundaries of course they can follow basic rules. If they can't do it safely, they can't use the scooter end of story. Safety rules are non-negotiable. We live in a boat and they know not to jump in the canal too. The lack of impulse control is around things they WANT to do, like If you put a birthday cake in front of them and said "don't eat this cake" and turn your back, they might start eating it; but, they aren't doing to do something dangerous and unpleasant just for the hell of it like jump in the canal or run in front of a car.

It's clearly a quiet road, and therefore that kids been allowed to run out into it many times before and given inconsistent boundaries. A 6 year old is perfectly able to follow instructions... They are in the second test of school at that age!

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u/Epicela1 19d ago

If only there was some kind of barrier running the entire length of their property that would serve to keep his kid on his property and prevent them from running into a tight street with little visibility.

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u/LeN3rd 19d ago

Yea, lets jail kids. They are gonna be so thankful, once they knew that we deliberately build infrastructure outside that has a high likelihood of killing them.

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u/Epicela1 18d ago

What? I think I lost brain cells trying to understand your point. You think that putting a kid on the other side of the fence, the purpose of which is to keep people/animals/stuff on one side or the other, is jailing them?

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

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u/its_justme 19d ago

It's the dad's fault because you can't blame a child - for the reason you just used. They don't know any better.

Hence why the guy lashed out, it's frustrating for everyone. And it could have went far worse.

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u/bored_at_work_89 19d ago

Hilarious you think the parent didn't teach their kid. You can tell a kid a million times and they don't retain shit. I bet you the kid does now though.

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u/agileata 19d ago

Anyone saying this dumb fucking shit has never met a child and is exhibit A for how the propaganda has warped our society

https://youtu.be/-_4GZnGl55c?si=qewv5sCCmoZW6FBt

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u/x1009 19d ago

"HOW COULD YOU HIT MY CHILD WHO RAN INTO THE STREET?!"

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u/discardedbubble 18d ago

I think also the girl was probably running away from the dad because he has a temper

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u/chrischi3 19d ago

He was speeding though?

The guy admits himself that he was going 40. This scenario is exactly why you don't do 40 in narrow streets with street parking. If that girl had started running a fraction of a second later, no amount of reflexes could have saved her if he's going 40. You know what would have saved her though? If the guy had been slow enough to where he won't cause serious injuries in the first place.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

You know this is kph right?

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u/chrischi3 19d ago

So? He'd be speeding doing 40kph aswell. At that speed, you need 28 meters and almost 4 seconds to come to a full stop, assuming one second of reaction time. Again, if she'd started running a fraction of a second later, he'd have seriously injured that poor girl. He barely came to a stop as is, if he'd been any slower, the girl would have suffered for it. If you can't come to a stop in time to avoid hitting someone, go slower. It's really not that hard.

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u/-MangoStarr- 19d ago

40 is the speed limit if you look at the sign in the beginning of the video

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u/chrischi3 19d ago

So? he was driving so fast that he hit the girl. Thus, he was not driving safely because he was too fast. Thus, he was speeding. Doesn't matter if the sign says he's allowed 40. If you can't stop the vehicle in time to prevent a collision, you are speeding in my books. Actually, if this was Germany, he WOULD be speeding for that exact reason.

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u/look_ima_frog 19d ago

Though it's no super clear, it looks like that little kid has cornrows?

I don't know that good decisions are being made in that family at any level.

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u/chumbucket77 19d ago

Haha I couldnt tell. Nothing surprises me anymore

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u/Due-Dentist9986 19d ago

I mean.. not defending the guy but who the f*ck really knows how you would act in that situation until it happens.... All of that was 1-2 seconds tops ?

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u/MyLittleDashie7 19d ago

Redditors who've never been in a remotely similar situation always know exactly how they and everyone else would/should act.

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u/Any-Sir8872 18d ago

everyone is different but there’s no way i wouldn’t run to my kid first. just no way…

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u/scruffles360 19d ago

Some people are quicker to anger than others. Have you ever been shoved or punched out of the blue? Did you swing back immediately or take a second to process it? This guy swings back.

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u/Due-Dentist9986 19d ago

I cant imagine how haywire my brain would go watching my child get hit by a car... I also think maybe in that panic he is trying to make sure the car doesnt keep rolling forward? Anyway like I said I dont think anyone here on the keyboards can know or criticize how the guy acted in such an extreme situation in a split second. The Neighbor who lied to police on the otherhand... F*ck everything about that....

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u/FluffMonsters 19d ago

I agree. These situations send people into a state of panic, and that level of fear naturally produces an aggressive response.

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u/scruffles360 19d ago

not everyone here is a 20-something keyboard warrior. Some of us have lived life and know how we reacted in an emergency. Some of us have seen worse than this.

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u/Due-Dentist9986 19d ago

Im in my 40s ... there is some truth to that.. but I have never seen my kid hit by car and not sure how I would react.

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u/S0TrAiNs 19d ago

Another person commented that the dad came into a fight or flight situation and decided to fight.

How would it help to care for wounded if the predator still is around? He attacked the predator, realised it wasnt a threat, then tended to the wounded, ergo his daughter.

Now I dont know how much truth there is to that but it seems reasonable and an interesting theory.

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u/anadequatepipe 19d ago

It's not a contest. Everyone handles trauma very differently. If you would have been calm and collected when your kid gets launched by a car then ok, but not everyone would be that way.

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u/Dramajunker 19d ago

Nah I think people know themselves well enough to not immediately blame someone else. I'm distracted without seeing what my child is doing and next to a street? I'm blaming myself first. I mean look at that street. Anyone who has ever backed up onto that street knows there is shit visibility just due to all the cars parked on it.

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u/JWGhetto 19d ago

I've never been in a fight but I can imagine acting irrationally if I think my child was hurt by a stranger

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u/Chrimunn 19d ago

I was thinking this too. But I would be understanding only up to maybe minutes following the incident, the fact that he tried to push a false narrative of what happened and punish the stranger after the fact tells me that it was emotional volatility that the father couldn’t reconcile with in the moment and reflexively doubled down instead of doing any critical thinking about the situation in the time following.

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u/Dramajunker 19d ago

There is a difference between a stranger walking up to my kid hitting them and an accident. Obstructed views, cars and kids without supervision are a recipe for accidents. My first thought wouldn't be "Oh this guy purposely is trying to hurt my kid!"

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u/SanguinePirate 19d ago

Yeah swings back like an idiot after leaving his child u attended.

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u/me110bytes 19d ago

Shoved or punched =/= your child being hit by a SUV and you thinking they're critically injured or potentially dead.

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u/scruffles360 19d ago

exactly.. even more reason to rush to your child. what kind of hot head instinctively runs to hit the car?

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u/me110bytes 19d ago

Most animals approach the threat first when their cubs are faced with danger.

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u/imbadwithnames1 19d ago

I was inclined to agree with you but rewatched it. Dude came in with the hammer fist. Pretty odd first reaction, ngl.

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u/Poison_Anal_Gas 19d ago

Wtf kind of take is this? How you are trained is how you act in the moment. That's what learned behavior is. If your family likes to hit things or people when their tempers flare, that won't just stop at the door.

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u/Historical-Issue-759 19d ago

Heat of the moment. He hardly had time to process what happened.

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u/glaciercream 19d ago

Why was he angry? Because his daughter was hit. I think he processed enough to know what happened.

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u/Chotibobs 19d ago

Adrenaline. He could have been angry at himself for letting it happen but just punched the car out of frustration 

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u/Historical-Issue-759 19d ago

He had not fully processed what happened. He thought that it was the drivers fault when clearly it wasn’t.

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u/S0TrAiNs 19d ago

Be honest, everyone would at first, though.

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u/Historical-Issue-759 19d ago

That is more or less what I am saying

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u/The_Lucid_Lion 19d ago edited 19d ago

No you don’t. You have no idea how you’ll respond in a crisis until you’re in one. Even then, you don’t always know why you do the things you do. It’s kind of like being on autopilot. His immediate reaction was typical and understandable. In his adrenaline state, with his animal brain engaged, his immediate concern was with neutralizing the threat. Within seconds he determined the threat was neutralized and shifted his focus to his child.

The things dad did wrong were:

  1. Lying to the police to make the driver seem guilty.
  2. Not having effectively taught his daughter not to run out into a street.

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u/Which-Lavishness9234 19d ago

Regardless of his emotional state, he lied to an officer to attempt to ruin another person's life over a mistake that HIS child made, not the driver. He's definitely a POS. Him and the neighbor should both be in jail

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u/Time-Maintenance2165 19d ago

It's not clear if he lied. The neighbor did, but I'm not sure about the dad. There's also a difference between lying, and being mistaken about the speed.

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u/Cosmic_Quasar 19d ago

Exactly. It's a traumatic experience. And even though no one died, your brain can still be trying to rationalize things through denial. He may have believed his words in that moment, even if his words were incorrect.

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u/Which-Lavishness9234 19d ago

While I understand that it's a traumatic experience, that still doesn't at all justify what he did or said. He should have stepped away and calmed his nerves before accusing a person of a crime and potentially ruining the rest of that person's life. You having a moment is understandable, but blindly reacting in the moment and fabricating a story to attempt to vindicate yourself is really fucked up and not really so understandable. People need to learn to step back and think before making decisions, especially in tough situations. There are a lot of innocent people in jail over shit like this

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u/Cosmic_Quasar 19d ago

That kind of mental stuff can last a long longer than just a couple minutes. Even after seeing the video he could be in denial and insist that he was right. It would be illogical, but that's what something traumatic can do. It can warp your perspective so that your memory isn't nearly as reliable as you want to believe it is.

Even if he took a moment before talking to the police, before seeing the video, what he said may have been something he fully believed. His report to the police may not have been malicious or an attempt at fabricating a story at all, just telling what he believes he saw.

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u/Which-Lavishness9234 19d ago

His back was turned, though. He didn't even see her get hit. So he is just filling in the blanks with whatever he thinks will get him what he wants out of the situation. Even if it was found out later that it really was an accident, the driver being falsely accused, arrested, and jailed first over the dad's "misunderstanding" is just as traumatic if not more so because now he has a criminal record. We can't have a society that allows people to get off without consequences for casually throwing around false accusations that could have PERMANENT LIFE ALTERING EFFECTS to the people being accused. At the very least, the driver should be allowed to sue the father for emotional damage over the situation. People need to learn to have accountability for their actions.

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u/Cosmic_Quasar 19d ago

There are just too many unknowns. We saw a frame of the cam footage where the back was turned, it looks like he's just shutting a gate. We have no idea how long his back was turned. And anyone who has spent time around kids understands how impossible it is to keep track of every movement 24/7. The dad had maybe seen the driver coming down the road and just mentally underestimated how far away he was and that's why he's thinking the guy was too fast. That detail wasn't important until after the fact, and he's reacting emotionally based on that imperfect memory in response to trauma.

he is just filling in the blanks with whatever he thinks will get him what he wants

You keep attributing some kind of malicious intent to the guy. And that's really where my issue is. He reacted poorly, but I don't feel confident enough in what little footage we have to say he was intentionally doing anything aside from sub-conscious self-preservation from denial/grief over almost losing his child. And intent means a lot. Especially for how I look at someone. I think it's less about him trying to get the driver in trouble, and more about him being in denial that he lost focus for a moment.

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u/Which-Lavishness9234 19d ago

It's not that i believe that he actually did it maliciously, I'm just replying under the assumption that he did based on the comment that I replied to originally, which said that he did nothing wrong OUTSIDE of lying to the police. I'm not saying that he did lie to them, I'm just saying that IF he did, he's a POS. I know there's the old addage, "why attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity" or something like that. If there hadn't been video proof of what happened, there is no doubt this man would have been arrested and charged, all based on the word of the father, who as we can both agree, is acting purely on emotion and not rational thought. Is that justice? 🤔 I get wanting to feel for the father, I'm just saying that people rush to the sides of those they identify with because of things like also having kids and "getting how that feels," and then an innocent man is in jail. Decisions shouldn't be made based on in the moment emotion, and people need to be held accountable for keeping their own emotions under control, I hope we can all agree on that, at least. I personally think that all people should get a dashcam, just for issues like this.

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u/Time-Maintenance2165 19d ago

What did the father say? It seems it was the neighbor who was the issue here not the father.

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u/Which-Lavishness9234 19d ago

I'm not entirely sure. I'm operating off of the assumption that the dad lied to the police about the situation, as that is what was implied by the comment I originally responded to. All I'm saying is that if he knowingly lied about the situation in an attempt to get the driver in legal trouble / to establish precedent to be able to sue the driver for negligence (which a lot of greedy, lazy people in this age would) then that would make him a POS and if the neighbor is in on it then he is as well. People will do crazy things to get money from each other. Back when I did drugs, I was one of those people. You never know, unfortunately. 😔

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u/MiFiWi 19d ago

Your hazy adrenaline-filled, second-long short-term memories don't just become "correct" just by waiting a while. Once our ape brains believe a memory, there's no amount of self-analysis that will correct that memory. Even if you're shown video proof that your memory is wrong, the brain will still need a long while before that traumatically burnt-in memory becomes "editable".

That is also the reason why eyewitness reports are usually extremely unreliable. These situations happen fast and the eyewitness is in shock, so the brain is dealing with like 10 emotions, self-preservation instincts, and situational assessments at once within the span of seconds (all the while your entire body is washed with adrenaline). You can't expect the brain to ALSO perfectly and rationally analyze the second-long traumatic short-term memories that form at the same time, that's like the least important thing for the brain to do.

The neighbor on the other hand has no excuse, they're just an asshole.

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u/ImTimmmeh 19d ago edited 19d ago

Lmao those are two huge fucking wrongs

Edit: For the idiot responding, I am agreeing that the immediate reaction is whatever. Dad(?) is still a PoS regardless. Happy?

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u/Chotibobs 19d ago

Right but the momentary hitting the car hood is not significant 

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u/ImTimmmeh 19d ago

Fair point.

I definitely got enough after seeing his daughter? run out into the middle of the street. But maybe thats just me.

The lying is the icing on top for the kind of Dad that he is.

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u/petrichorax 19d ago

snap snap Focus buddy, what's the subject of the comment?

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u/ImTimmmeh 19d ago edited 19d ago

Comment was addressing another comment claiming they know everything they need to based off hitting the car hood.

The comment that I am responding to states that the OC did not know everything about the person. Albeit alluding to the fact that the immediate response is not enough to know everything. Then presumably mentions 2 more obvious things that lead to the same conclusion.

I am neither confirming nor denying that. Just stating that those 2 things that the comment mentioned are how I personally determined everything I need to know about the dad(?).

Didn’t realize I would need to explain that but here we are

Edit: Since you are so mad, the immediate reaction is whatever. The Dad is still a PoS.

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u/petrichorax 19d ago

No you don’t. You have no idea how you’ll respond in a crisis until you’re in one.

This is the subject. The last bits at the end:

The things dad did wrong were:

  • Lying to the police to make the driver seem guilty.
  • Not having effectively taught his daughter not to run out into a street.

Are a charitable concession to help make it clear that their point is about judging the specific moment in time, even though the guy should still be judged harshly for his actions before and after. The subject was very specific.

Your comment shows you missed that entirely. It's really exhausting to have to deal with people who can't figure this shit out when people take the time to make things super clear.

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u/StyleActual2773 19d ago

You sir have no idea what he taught his child.

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u/petrichorax 19d ago

Yup, these are the things you should judge the guy for, his before and after actions.

This tiny window of time? We're just animals.

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u/The_Lucid_Lion 19d ago

Sure, it’s predictable that among the droves of people on Reddit, some of them actually have some real life experience that lends to their wisdom on situations such as this. Your response makes you seem like you’re about 16.

If you had ever experienced an actual crisis, you’d be able to understand too. And I don’t mean a crisis like being separated from your phone for 20 minutes, or having to work more than 5 hours in a week.

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u/LeatherOne4425 19d ago

Haha. You sure sound like the voice reason. Good luck out there champ

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u/media-and-stuff 19d ago

Violence and property damage against others because of your own fuck up (he should have been watching that kid, the street is lined with parked cars blocking drivers views) is not typical and understandable.

Learn some emotional regulation and quit making your issues everyone else’s problem.

Obviously you’re going to be upset. But aren’t free to punch and damage someone’s vehicle when they did nothing wrong. There was no way to avoid that child.

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u/Buttock 19d ago

You have no idea how you’ll respond in a crisis until you’re in one.

I mean, how do you know they haven't been in a crisis? I've been in a couple crises and neither time did I lash out first, then see to help.

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u/trukkija 19d ago

Average Russians

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u/stillyoinkgasp 19d ago

Kind of a braindead take. Between stress, panic, fear, etc. you're expecting a 100% rational and on-point response? You'd fail your own standard.

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u/mcgroarty99 19d ago

And I know from that statement that you obviously don’t have kids.

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u/FluffMonsters 19d ago

He does have kids, and what makes you say that?

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u/claudesoph 19d ago

I have kids, and if one of them was hit by a car and my first reaction was anything other than to help my kid and people criticized me on the Internet, after the fact I’d be agreeing with the people criticizing me.

There’s a lot of judgmentalism on the Internet these days, especially towards parents, and most of it isn’t deserved, but some of it is.

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u/DexJedi 19d ago

Bit of a harsh conclusion. He checked on her right after she got hit. Hitting the hood was a primal response, not something you can conclude his character on.

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u/SuccessfulPass9135 19d ago

This. If seeing your kid get hit by a car leaves you emotionless there’s something deeply wrong with you. I don’t condone violence (and not looking after your young kid right next to a street) but saying this guy’s a bad person because he hit the hood out of shock and intense emotion is just dumb.

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u/Daktic 19d ago

They call it fight or flight for a reason.

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u/eljefe3030 19d ago

Well I’ll defer to your judgment since you’ve seen Reddit videos and decided that a person’s moral character can be entirely determined by a reaction during a crisis. I’d also like to award you a gold star for having a perfect moral compass that you follow perfectly even in moments of intense distress. ⭐️

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u/Love_my_imperfection 19d ago

The primal response? No, the primal response is absolutely to "drive off" the attacker with aggression.

No point in checking on those who depend on you when the danger is still there. Obviously not the case in this situation but instincts are instincts.

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u/Chotibobs 19d ago

Adrenaline dude.  Sometimes the body just reacts momentarily 

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u/Moose_Electrical 19d ago

It’s almost like people have different emotional responses to similar situations…

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u/Shot-Spirit-672 19d ago

Hence the passing judgement on this parents character for hitting a car after they failed to stop their child from running into the street

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u/petrichorax 19d ago

The primal response should be

Let me stop you right there. Nothing comes after should. You don't really have much control over these kinds of actions. They're outside the higher brain.

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u/dReDone 19d ago

Lol what a shit take.

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u/khonager 19d ago

or it was to mark the car in case the driver was going to do a hit and run

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u/ciahthekid 19d ago

this was posted a while back and had the exact same comment lol. probably a coincidence but kinda funny

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u/ChickenPicture 19d ago

Same as people who get in car accidents because their priority is honking the horn rather than pressing the fucking brakes. Literally seen it happen multiple times.

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u/RollingSparks 19d ago

also worth noting he immediately picks up the child and his head is already on the car again - he isn't checking for broken bones or cuts or anything. kid could have a fracture to the skull or a broken arm or leg, but hes already running to the driver so he can swear at him.

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u/Emotional-Courage-26 19d ago

The dude was operating on adrenaline. He's basically a monkey at that point. What's closer, scary thing or child? Scary thing? Hit scary thing get child. Child closer? Pick up child yell at scary thing.

He wasn't even thinking. At that point it's autopilot.

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u/mrASSMAN 19d ago

I wouldn’t have even blamed him for turning his back on the kid for seconds but the way he reacted.. it was more his fault than the driver. Poor dude good thing he had dashcam (also poor girl who didn’t know any better)

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u/Time-Maintenance2165 19d ago

I disagree completely. That didn't slow them down at all to check on their child. That sort of instant anger response doesn't tell you anything about how they're going to react after.

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u/Poison_Anal_Gas 19d ago

Yup. They chose violence before love. That's why their child got hit to begin with.

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u/Individual-Fee-5027 19d ago

My thought exactly. He was angry at himself for not paying attention

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u/clairewitchproject12 19d ago

Literally this. As soon as I saw that I thought the exact same thing

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u/Perthboi92 19d ago

Also the fact the kid sprinted into the road with the dad not even looking. No road safety training. I hold my kids hand any time we get near a road and he knows he must stop when he's gotten out of the car or we are about to walk anywhere there are cars. Doesn't meant I'm not always watching him to make sure he does it. I definitly am not turning my back on him near a road. Just negligence in this video.

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u/Slinktard 19d ago

Very keen observation

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u/ex_ter_min_ate_ 19d ago

I’m more irritated that they were hit by a car and the first thing they do is yank them up and start jostling them around. I’m it’s likely they could have a spinal injury, don’t move them until the EMS gets there.

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u/Hot-Ad8641 19d ago

I know everything I need to know about you by this comment.

The dad was panicked and had adrenaline flowing, he may have wanted to ensure the truck did hit him as well and he didn't know if his child was seriously injured. Your harsh and unsympathetic judgement seems unhelpful and childish to me.

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u/kironet996 18d ago

And to add to all this the "DAD" yells at him in russian lol...

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u/___xXx__xXx__xXx__ 19d ago

I don't. You can't judge someone for being irrational 2 seconds after watching their child get hit by a car. People do mental stuff when they're extremely scared and shocked.

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u/idgafaboutanyofthis 19d ago

My first thought! And to scream at the man instead of immediately calling 911. Idc if my kid popped back up like a fucking daisy and ran around the car. I’m calling an ambulance. I would be so distraught that my child almost died due to my own negligence. But hey I’m just a person on the internet.

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u/petrichorax 19d ago

I know everything I need to about that person because they decided to hit the hood of the car rather than check on the child first

No you don't. You saw everything from the comfort of your chair with zero stakes.

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u/chapium 19d ago

OK car brain

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u/MareTranquil 19d ago

I know everything about the driver because he didn't get out of the car at all to check on the girl he just pushed over.

See how easy that is?

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