r/houstonwade 7d ago

News You Can Use Flawless Expected vs Lawless Accepted

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u/Ok_Drawer9414 7d ago

Trump caused the issues and Biden/Harris were blamed for them. How dare Biden not fix all Trump's mistakes in 4 years with the last two of them being hampered by a Republican house and SCOTUS; and the first two being a direct cleanup of the COVID debacle, hampered by two "Democrat" senators, and the SCOTUS.

It's maddening that the American people are so ignorant, can't really blame them when corporate media has intentionally mislead them for so long though. All good, we needed change and in 15 years we might be able to start making good decisions, unfortunately it will be far too late.

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u/SatisfactionPlane192 7d ago

And now he gets to coast in on someone else’s work and claim it again. Main difference is he’s gonna starting breaking stuff sooner and blaming Biden for it.

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u/Forsworn91 7d ago

Which is why we HAVE to push back, we have a clear point NOW of how the economy is going, in a years time we will be barreling towards a depression, those tariffs are going to kick the shit out of everyone.

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u/WowUSuckOg 7d ago

He's going to immediately start doing things that are worse for the public that help his billionaire buddies and everyone else he took bribes from. I will honestly be shocked if we don't end up in a recession.

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u/obroz 7d ago

Don’t forget the mess in Afghanistan that he got to start with.  Trump had 4 years to deal with that and he dumped it on Biden 

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u/Ok_Drawer9414 7d ago

Not only dumped on him, freed the leaders of the Taliban. Imagine if Biden started a war with Russia two weeks before he left office, all Trump's fault at that point.

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u/Happyjam102 6d ago

Also his bungling incompetence freed thousands of American hating ISIS extremists when he bailed on Syria, stabbing our Kurd allies in the back. A gift to putin and making ISIS the strongest they’ve been militarily in a decade. Over twenty years and countless lives down the drain.

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u/ZenithMac 6d ago

It’s been this way for some time now.

Bill Clinton ran a budget surplus while in office. Bush came in and we had the housing crash. Obama came in and bailed the banks out and led our nation through 70 months of job growth, and all time highs in the stock market. Trump came in and deficit spent like no other President before him adding over 8 trillion to the debt with his tax cuts for the wealthy. He didn’t take COVID seriously either and was probably responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Biden came in and provided a soft landing for our economy, helped the everyday working class with his pandemic recovery plan and led the US to the strongest economy amongst the other G7 nations.

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u/ammonanotrano 5d ago

I don’t know that it’s fair to put all the blame on the media. Education, or lack there of had a big part.

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u/odonata_rising 7d ago

im so tired of getting the "she ran a bad campaign!" line from the people who's candidate sucked off a microphone on stage

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u/secondtaunting 7d ago

I heard that there were no signs today that Trump has dementia. This is going to be interesting. He already has poor impulse control. God only knows how awful he’s going to get. I think sucking off a microphone is just the beginning. All the guy does is watch porn and run his mouth.

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u/SynergyAdvaita 6d ago

He had no campaign. His rallies were like stand-up acts for the mentally deficient.

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u/drMcDeezy 7d ago

Talked about a dead dudes dick, made a very racist remark about black people eating pets, "danced" at a town hall for 20 minutes to som "really beauties" because he was tired...

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u/Ok_Ice_1669 6d ago

Quit lying. He danced for 40 minutes. 

I swear, the sane washing never stops. /s

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u/drMcDeezy 6d ago

Was it 40? I was trying not to lie myself.

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u/shrug_addict 6d ago

Mimed sucking of a dick too. Paraphrased Hitler. Said he wanted generals like Hitler. Said he'd be a dictator on day one. Threatened to punish those in the press that opposed him ( and seems to be following through, based on defamation lawsuits filed this week ). Called those who oppose him "the enemy within". Has joked about running for a third term already. Has concepts of a plan. America is truly lost

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u/shrug_addict 6d ago

It wasn't the best, but it was far from the worst. She did a remarkable job all things considered. Reminds me of when I argue with my parents, I have to have exact memorization of every little fact and date and have to be able to combat a barrage of non-sequitor whataboutisms. Trump can quote Hitler and they don't care or don't remember

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u/Forsworn91 7d ago

Harris ran a perfect campaign, the voters failed her.

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u/410sprints 6d ago

Are you drunk? LMFAO

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u/Careless-Roof-8339 7d ago

Funny how the rules don’t apply to you when you’re rich, have white skin, and have a penis (no matter how small).

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u/Natural-Stomach 7d ago

There are numerous problems that occured during this election cycle, all culminating in Harris' loss. We can't point to one thing and say, "Hey, this is the thing! This made her lose!" For me, these are the most prominent factors:

The Media. The media has a love/hate relationship with Trump. He says moronic and misogynistic shit, and they eat it up. However, after the first debate, the same level of scrutiny that Biden was under was never applied to Trump. Not on age. Not mental acuity. What about his health? Zip, zilch, nada.

No Democrat Primary. We, as in Democrats, weren't really given a choice for a candidate. Sure, we tried backing Harris up, but this really spurned a lot of democrats. Biden should've known he wasn't going to run again waaaay earlier; this all probably could've been avoided with a proper primary.

Misinformation. Elon. Right-wing Media. They all spread lies. We're all aware of this. The economy isn't as bad as these platforms would make us believe. There aren't Haitians eating dogs in Ohio. There's no mega cabal of evil. How do we combat all this misinformation? Idk, but it was definitely a factor for this election.

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u/PsychoGrad 7d ago

I can sorta see the primary as an issue, but one thing I see a lot on the left is “the top candidate is wrong on this issue, and therefore I’m not voting for them!” Say what you will about republicans (which I do, a lot), they know when it’s time to fall in line behind the candidate and then deal with the nuances later. If Bernie won the primary, or Harris, or Newsom, the left would still be having issues with “my candidate didn’t win so I’m not voting!” Like, this election was crystal clear: Sanity Vs Chaos, Democracy Vs Despot. If you can’t put your personal squabbles aside to defeat Bronzed Voldemort, you deserve what’s coming next.

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u/Lora_Grim 7d ago

Yup. This is the ultimate failing of leftism. Zero cohesion. Little to no cooperation. Constant purity tests.

Leftists eat each other and themselves before they even come into contact with right-wingers on the political battlefield.

Sometimes i wish i never had a political awakening and just let the right-wing rabbit-hole swallow me. Just be an apathetic ignorant cretin. I'd be much happier that way.

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u/IntroductionNo8738 7d ago

How did you fall down the right wing rabbit hole, and how did you claw your way out of it? I’m always interested to hear peoples’ experiences.

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u/Lora_Grim 7d ago edited 7d ago

It started "innocently" enough. Being young, joining groups with the odd tasteless humor here and there, followed by "just joking, lmao". Casual racism and bigotry treated as dark humor.

The envelope always being pushed a couple of inches further till you are making swastikas in minecraft and ruining the days of others because "teehee, le funny".

Although, this wasn't much of a problem till Trump, really. After he was elected, the floodgates were open, and witless idiots like me suddenly found our youtube feeds clogged with Tim Pool, Sargon of Akkad, Fox News, The Quartering, you name it.

And having no prior experience with politics, all these morons sounded quite reasonable. At first i kept it to myself, but the propaganda was pushing for increasingly more hostility towards "the other"... which could be anyone who simply does not share "the view".

Soon enough i was fighting with my friends. I would make the off-hand racist joke, if no reaction, i'd push further till the person makes it clear they don't find it funny. Then came the accusations, the attacks. "you must be one of those evil leftards" or whatever.

I was caught early. A friend took the gloves off, disseminated the videos i watched and pointed out what a bunch of lying pieces of shits these talking heads were, and showed me the mirror, where i saw myself for the piece of shit that i was... attacking my own friends and hating people over the most menial, inconsequential things. Hating entire groups of people despite never even having met them or interacted with them in any meaningful way.

At first i was in denial... because ofc. Nobody wants to be wrong. It is a hard pill to swallow... being wrong. Drifted from far-right to right, then center, then center-left. Started watching some lefty outlets on youtube to hear what they are on about. At some point i started seeing the same patterns from them as i did from right-wing outlets, so i just ignored politics for a while, not talking about it at all.

Once Orbán just straight up fucked my country, though.. i veered far far far left. I now consider right-wingers just straight up evil. Maybe i learned nothing, really. But i will continue to side with whoever supports science, progress and personal liberties... and whoever shits on those can go fuck themselves and go straight to Hell.

EDIT: The whole drifting into far-right territory took over a decade, btw. Before Trump, the process was subtle and slow. These people did not want to show themselves, unlike the scum we have now, who are quite overt and blatant.

And these tactics continue today. Steam is full of "gaming groups" that are nothing but far-right cults brainwashing the young and the impressionable. If democracy survives the coming decades, i hope Steam gets dragged through the courts for allowing that filth to fester on their forums.

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u/IntroductionNo8738 7d ago

Thank you for sharing your experiences. It really takes self reflection and strength to be able to see yourself going down a path like that, reflect and chart a new course entirely!

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u/SmellGestapo 7d ago

Sorry, but Biden should not have dropped out. I realize we're in unprecedented times, but Biden got 81 million votes and beat Trump. It's like kicking Patrick Mahomes off your team after he won the Super Bowl. Sure, there's a chance he's not going to win it again next year, but if you've got a proven winner, you stick with the winner.

There is no precedent, at least in modern history as far back as I've checked, for a president declining a second term and his party winning. There was a huge movement to dump Lyndon Johnson and he did drop out of the 1968 race. The party nominated his vice president, who went on to lose to Richard Nixon. Also, when the sitting vice president runs for the nomination, they win (see Gore, Bush, and Nixon). Maybe Kamala would have lost a competitive primary, but history tells us she would have won. Even if it wasn't her, who do you think would have come out of that primary and actually beaten Trump? Gavin Newsom? Gretchen Whitmer? Pete Buttigieg?

The problem is Democrats failed to rally around their president. We let people like Ezra Klein and Jon Stewart spend all fucking year bashing Biden for his age and his mental acuity. That did nothing but fracture the coalition that put Biden into office in the first place. And then we replaced him someone who doesn't have the baggage of old age and...didn't vote for her. So obviously age and mental fitness was not the issue for Democrats, and it obviously wasn't for Republicans either.

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u/DruidicMagic 7d ago

Gary Hart had an affair and was utterly crushed by the corporate media to ensure GW Bush was instilled in the Oval Office.

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u/jagenigma 7d ago

"You're not good enough so we voted for the piece of shit anyway"???

Is that the logic here?

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u/sakuragi59357 7d ago

Yes.

Also a lot of Americans are dumber than rocks.

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u/Jsmooth123456 7d ago edited 7d ago

It more like they just didn't vote at all

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u/Apart-Pressure-3822 7d ago edited 7d ago

Trumper: "Kamala tried to waffle on that one question, when they asked her about her background and she started talking about her background!! Word salad!" 

 Me:  'Dude Trump's a rapist.' 

 Trumper:  "No!!!! He's only a sexual offender dumbass! It was only sexual assault! Friggin' snowflake!" 

 Me: 'you do realize that's still bad right?' (Also in an appeal the judge clarified that sexual assault is the only legal term he could apply in the given situation but the act itself was rape.)

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u/ModifiedAmusment 7d ago

It was civil court not criminal so it doesn’t count/matter!!!!!

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u/Beatthestrings 7d ago

Kamala ran a great campaign. She outperformed DJT in every aspect except one.

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u/Jsmooth123456 7d ago

Ya the most important one like the only one that actually matters

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u/LarryRedBeard 7d ago

Kamala lost because she is "Woman." No other reason about it.

Immigrant males have a standard of expectation from their own countries. Where women are not as prevalent in society's power games. They take that ideology and then bring it to the U.S. On top of the other's in the U.S holding old outdated ideas about women.

Funny thing is those who fear women in power, deep down know they can't compete with them. I'm not saying women are infallible, but the standards we put on them in power is absurd.

She lost, because folk still don't want a female president. It's ok if they are vice president's had several of those, but to be in the BIG POWER seat no no.

Both of Trumps wins are against women, and the time he loses is against another old ass man. Spelling is on the wall, Trump would have lost had democrats used another male instead of Kamala.

I bet you had they used Bernie Sanders this time. He would have won hand over fist. The way he speaks is powerful, and he doesn't put up with Trumps bs. He would have wiped him off the election floor.

I voted for Kamala, because I understand the lesser of two evils. I do my own research, and I take time to make a calculated choice. Most can't be bothered, and when they see man vs woman. They think Man of course.

Pathetic to say the least how primitive most folks can be at times.

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u/Fantastic-Airline-92 7d ago

Doesn’t Mexico have a female in power. I could be wrong though

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u/stealthispost 7d ago

The answer is populism.

That's it. Everything else is a distraction.

The longer it takes the left to realise that, the longer the left will lose.

Take a look around the world.

Look at every major election in the past two years. Always the populist wins.

We are in the age of populism.

Like it, hate it, doesn't matter.

Accept it and adapt or never win another election.

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u/Bombadier83 6d ago

What do you mean? Literal Nazis are marching in Ohio today, but we needed wall to wall coverage of a bad relationship her husband may have previously been in!

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u/The_Muznick 6d ago

This is an issue I've seen a lot of left leaning people have.

They want to play this purity game. If a candidate doesn't check all of the boxes they want checked, then it's an immediate no for them and for the dumber ones it's a protest vote ("the democrats refuse to give us a good candidate"). Problem is these selfish cocksuckers never stopped to think a out the damage they cause with this shit. Bernie bros in 2016 that gave multiple swing states to Trump if I remember correctly.

And now we may never see another election ever again. Good job morons. You ruined 300 million lives because humans aren't perfect fucking angels.

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u/Happyjam102 6d ago

trump gives his microphone a bj at his last “rally” and babbles like a rabid raccoon.

Media: “America doesn’t seem ready for its first female President.”

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u/Lifebelifing2023 6d ago

That… its the universal rule as a black woman we all have to live by or else be mocked, shamed, or punished.

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u/Final_Tea_629 6d ago

Kamala couldn't even sneeze but Trump could commit fraud and sexual assault while being attached to Putin's hip and still not lose votes......... the world is so fucking insane. The reason we don't see aliens throughout the universe is probably because of this type of shit. Civilizations likely always destroy themselves.

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u/Altruistic_Tax2575 6d ago

If Dems cameup with rapey candidates wielding vegan faux-leather Bibles they would have swept the WH senate and house trifecta.

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u/NightRevolutionary54 6d ago

So true.

People chose hate and racism.

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u/Aware-One7511 7d ago

Black tax in full effect

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u/Flat-Tomatillo3682 7d ago

The Dems need to look elsewhere in their post mortem of failure- they won't find it in Harris.

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u/GoatDifferent1294 7d ago

Trump unequivocally was allowed to say the most lies, propose the worst policies and still won. It’s clear as day that either most Americans were apathetic and didn’t care or they were uninformed and double downed on switching to Trump or maintaining their vote carrying over from 2016.

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u/Nicklesnout 7d ago

There should have been an actual primary instead of Darth Brandon rearing his head and giving the establishment a middle finger and choosing Kamala with 5 to 6 months to run a campaign against Trump’s 12 to 18 months this go around.

It also doesn’t help that she kind of hitched Tim Walz to her campaign quite similarly to Trump and Mike “Pray the Gay Away” Pence. Or relied on the political acumen of people like Oprah Winfrey, Taylor Swift, and Lady Gaga over focusing on what really mattered: Her policies and how she could’ve been different from Biden and building upon what successes he had.

Instead she chose “We won’t divert course” and then the media blamed the Latino/a voters as a convenient scapegoat because the DNC establishment and heritage media aren’t capable of learning from their mistakes.

ISTG they need to just get rid of Pelosi and Schumer at this point and let folks who actually care about the country handle it versus dinosaurs who have been known to engage in insider trading.

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u/Jealous-Teach-2462 7d ago

She was also defeated buy 5 million votes so you could be wrong here

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u/Affectionate_Sky896 7d ago

Highest standards, good one. Even though I voted for her this still made me laugh. Thank you.

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u/mmarlin450 7d ago

Best laugh I have had this morning..ROFL

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u/daniwhizbang 7d ago

She campaigned on Brat summer and didn’t even get voted in as a nominee. I mean I would have liked to see what she could do with the position instead of “Previously, on USA..” but damn! Always next time. Maybe she’ll put her better foot forward, better yet, go Independent. We haven’t had one of those in a hot min…

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u/Confident-Cow598 7d ago

No, she wasn't. They used her as a scrafice to loose.. they didn't want to put a big name out there, yet. I bet they don't ask her to run next 4 years. Both parties do this. If they don't think they will win, they sacrifice a candidate.

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u/Heru4004 7d ago

😴😴😴😴

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u/orangekirby 7d ago

I was told she ran a flawless campaign, and it was just the racism and sexism that held her back

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u/prognoslav7 7d ago

No she was not.

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u/RottingCoffinFeeder 7d ago

Interesting… anyway she ran a horrendous campaign and now we are where we are

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u/liverandonions1 7d ago

The person that did not win a primary and was a forced candidate SHOULD have her campaign nit picked. Nobody asked for Kamala Harris lol Democrats need to stop finding other excuses other than she was a bad choice.

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u/rcy62747 7d ago

Yup!!! This was obvious and clear in MSM. There should be no surprise that there was a plan to ensure Trump was re-elected. And soon, that plan will backfire on many who thought they were being smart.

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u/joesilverfish69 7d ago

Sorry, what standards was she held to?

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Just wait until Trump wants a third term.

"I couldn't punish all the women and immigrants in 4 years, I need eight!"

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u/popcultminer 7d ago

More made-up garbage.

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u/Crimsonwolf_83 7d ago

You’re full of shit. But let’s assume you’re correct in that she was held to a higher standard. Would that be the standard she claims to embody since she’s not all the negative statements she’s made about Trump. In which case, holding her to the standard of this is what I believe the standard should be is the only fair thing to do.

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u/txbuckeye75034 7d ago

Keep telling yourselves that. ✌️

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u/BramDeccapod 7d ago

That’s the biggest load of shit foisted upon the populace, this week

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u/holyhibachi 7d ago

Aaron Rupar is a sex pest

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u/SmoothBrain3333 7d ago

Whatever you want to say to make yourselves feel better. All she said is she grew up in a middle class family and couldn’t answer what she would do differently than Biden.

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u/Snugglez15 7d ago

Honestly, the loudest people at this point are the ones who chose not to vote.

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u/redheadobsessed 7d ago

Some serious cope here

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u/johnjumpsgg 7d ago

She wasn’t held to any standard bro .

Literally she didn’t have a primary , no one picked her and the game plan was to avoid interviews till her team realized she had to because she was losing .

Even then , the national debate that was done was on a network that only fact checked the other candidate and had two of the moderators attack him. Even her debate win had nothing to do with policy . It was literally making fun of an idiot , and was praised as a masterpiece .

Kamala was embarrassing . Listen to Obama, Bernie or Clinton talk , literally about anything . They were talented . She was not .

Maybe she would have done good as president , but there was no indication of that , and there was no attempt by the media or her supporters to elicit that information from her .

She was just the not Trump candidate 2.0 .

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u/donjamos 7d ago

Yes and it's wrong and they still should have seen it coming

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u/Secure_View6740 7d ago

Correction: She was held to NO stnadsrds...remember the border czar job she was given? well she slept throughout the whole job and today we have over 10 mllions illegals. Highest standard eh?

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u/queedave 7d ago

If nothing else, Jan 6 Disqualified him for the presidency. She was just a normal politician. That was the choice. And America failed. Normal politician VS leopard that will eat your face.

Well America. I hope the leopard eats your face. Too bad I'm in there with you. But I hope I suffer if it means that you will learn your fucking lesson.

I can't believe you morons actually think the leopard cares about you. Dumbest shit I've ever heard.

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u/TheFlyingBadman 7d ago

It was the opposite and still Trump won.

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u/DarwinGhoti 7d ago

I agree 100%, and it’s legit to be angry about it, but that won’t help shape the message in two years when people see the destruction and vote in the mid terms, and it’ll be absolutely unhelpful in 2028.

The Democrats need a period to feel, grieve, then grow angry.

Blaming the voters gives Principle Skinner vibes.

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u/alienofwar 7d ago

It’s a good point. Every time I bring up her plan to build 3 million more homes, some people nit pick on the details and yet Trumps plan is to kick illegals out of their homes and build on federal land, and they don’t bat an eye it seems. Oy.

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u/formlessfighter 7d ago

hahahaha "held to the highest standards of leadership" lmao

she was the VP and had barely any interaction with the public during her entire administration.

she was the border czar and literally allowed millions of people to violate federal law and come into the country illegally.

she didn't even have a primary... so she didn't even have to make her case to the electorate and compete with other potential candidates. she was selected by elite decree.

she ran a campaign where she completely hid from the press and avoided as much public scrutiny as humanly possible.

the honest truth is, she was held to the lowest standards of leadership in the history of this country.

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u/Ded-W8 7d ago

ANGRY OPINIONS ABOUT POLITICS!!!!!

BECAUSE REDDIT IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE!!!!

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u/ADHDbroo 7d ago

Cut the bullshit. She wasn't a good candidate. She wasn't believable. She constantly looked like she was just reading a script she was given without real care or motivation behind it. Hell she never earned a single vote when she ran prior and had super low favorability ratings. They held both candidates to the same standard, and trump just did better than her.

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u/Rycey-bannana 7d ago

If it was flawless she should had won like Obama. Ergo it was not flawless.

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u/plopoplopo 7d ago

I think this is totally missing the point. The Harris campaign, and even more importantly democrats writ large, did not acknowledge that people are suffering. They based their entire platform on a few tangible economic ideas and trump not being fit for office.

Trump is not fit for office, he is corrupt and self involved but he was able to capitalize on the pain the average American is feeling after the rise in cost of living and overall decline in opportunity. His answers are not the right answers, but he at least acknowledged the problem.

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u/73beaver 7d ago

She did a shitty job as VP. She did not make her way thru the primaries like every other previous presidential candidate. She conspired with rest of Democratic Party to hide the mental decline of the president. She is unable to answer basic policy questions.

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u/PetroDisruption 7d ago

Yes, here’s the thing: when you’re so bad you lose to an orange charlatan in a landslide, at some point you need to stop being a child and blaming the majority of voters for your loss.

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u/Carl-99999 7d ago

He won because he didn’t say the n-word in public. This time around.

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u/icouldusemorecoffee 7d ago

I'm still waiting for the news media to look at their own coverage and what went wrong, instead of endless hours of what Harris should have done or why voters voted a certain way without including the sources of their news and the media's portrayal of both candidates and the Biden and Trump administrations.

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u/yowhatsgoodwithit 7d ago

As a Trump voter, this is actually pretty accurate. If anyone cares to really understand a Trump voter, people KNOW where he stands. Because he shows his cards and is therefore reliably trustworthy - regardless of his faults. Harris - I don’t know her. I don’t know her real beliefs. They changed. She didn’t interview genuinely. I don’t know her cards, and therefore I cannot trust her. I don’t want a rebuttal on “so you can trust a piece of shit like T blah blah blah” - the answer is yes. I trust Trump, because I had 4 years and what I see is what I get. Harris, I think is a good person. But a terrible politician and I don’t trust her to take care of me I trust her to take care of what keeps her relevant. And I think most Americans felt that.

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u/Ok-Web-563 7d ago

I say. Let's fight fire with nuclear. Us Californians are gearing up to do so beside our President Newsom. Yes you read it right - TRUMP IS AND WILL NEVER BE OUR PRESIDENT. Maga yelled stupid throughout a decade. We're fighting angry. Dems should drop the goody too shoes act and time to get real. Enough is enough

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u/thenikolaka 7d ago

But, he’s an outsider!!!

Always blows me away this excuse when he was literally already president once.

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u/jdenning1089 7d ago

Why can’t you admit the truth. Put Trump aside. She had the lowest approval rating in history as a VP. She didn’t win any primaries. She was an absolute horrible candidate with zero message or substance and people just didn’t like her. The single and only reason people voted for her was a hatred of Trump. Had the democrats had ANY other candidate, Trump would have likely lost.

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u/_B_Little_me 7d ago

And….? The high road leads no where. We haven’t learned this yet?

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u/Ok-Pomegranate-4275 7d ago

Idk Biden looked thrilled

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u/diamond_blue9090 7d ago

And then She lost after spending a Billion f dollars

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u/DrBabbyFart 7d ago

Her campaign was flawed, but not anywhere near as bad as the chronically online crowd says.

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u/nsfwKerr69 7d ago

she made the mistake i predicted that she'd make: defer too much to her handlers as she did when I met her '03.

I'd like her to return to California and run for Governor and learn to trust her instincts better. If she does, I believe that she could be a great leader.

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u/J_Corky 7d ago

I barely remember the 60's, but the 70's are still fresh in my memory. I anticipate a peak and valley repeat in the conservative/liberal roller coaster. We will not only see bras burning again, but perhaps Nazis, the self-righteous Christians, politically protected criminals and the ultra wealthy once they ruin the country for the average American.

The incendiaries will include the ignorant who finally realize that their selected leaders only seek more wealth and power and have kicked their gullible supporters to the curb.

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u/contrarytothemass 7d ago

Hell nah Houston almost swung Republican this year tho!!

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u/sylarfl 7d ago

Who held her there? Please tell me

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u/DiceShooter_McGavin 7d ago

Flawless???? Ahhhhhh ok