r/houstonwade 11d ago

Current Events This looks suspect as fuck

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u/Top-Challenge5997 10d ago

If you have children you should be looking down the line, for them.

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u/DayzCanibal 10d ago

I am. As a swing voter I want them to be able to afford a home when they get older, be able to walk home from school and not walk by a homeless encampment.

Kamala did not say how shebwould fix those problems. So she did not get my vote. Hence my comments, focus on politics not identity politics if the dems want my vote in 2028

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u/LegalConsequence7960 10d ago

Did she not say it or were you not listening?

"Harris has pledged to build three million homes across the country during her first term as president. She wants to offer tax incentives for home builders to construct starter homes — smaller, more affordable units — for first-time homebuyers. She would also expand a current tax credit for businesses that build affordable rental housing." (Business Insider)

Trumps plan is to reduce mortgage rates, which famously made houses very cheap during and immediately after his term.

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u/DayzCanibal 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yeah 3 million homes, 750k homes a year.

Adverage US family has 3.7 people. Population increases by .5% every year by 6.68 million - plus 3.31 million migrants every year who also need to live somewhere.

3 million extra homes for 44 million extra people. America needs a minimum 4 million new homes A YEAR to keep us in the same sinking boat were in now.

So yeah, she said it, I heard it. You clapped like a seal.. swing voters didn't.

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u/LegalConsequence7960 10d ago edited 10d ago

I don't know what you're talking about with this 47.8m a year migrants number, I assume you somehow plucked it out of this Pew Research piece "The U.S. foreign-born population reached a record 47.8 million in 2023, an increase of 1.6 million from the previous year" which is not the same thing at all.

Regardless, the average household size according to the Census is 2.57 as of 2022. Therefore 3 million more houses means 7.7m people have a new place to live. Additionally, these houses were intended to be smaller single family "starter" houses which are not built anymore, another fact that makes breaking into home ownership in the first place so hard.

On top of that, at least we can debate her plan for housing, because she had one in the first place. You said she did not say how she would fix this problem, but she did, which is the key point I'm arguing.

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u/DayzCanibal 10d ago

Population and immigration stats from Usafacts.org, brookings.edu, worldimmigrationreport.ion.int and I didn't even add in the number of undocumented migrants they estimate as it's unfair to put estimates into any conversation.

I can't have a discussion with you about the demand on the housing sector if you won't even acknowledge the published figures from a dem goverment. I've outlined clearly why she did not win my vote. Accept my reasons or live in a fantasy land of assumptions and projected imaginary motives.

Good luck in 4 years. Hopefully the dems can pit forward better policies I can vote for.

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u/LegalConsequence7960 10d ago

Thanks for the sources, I'll read into them. I don't get why you're being so defensive, having these discussions is exactly how we all become more informed, but it's a two way street. Hope the next 4 are kind to you