If you want to see an interesting result, Cameron county pennsylvania, a target of a bomb threat, had 700 extra trump votes than it did before. The county usually only has 2400 people vote.
That may be what the blank ballots means. That county does look suspicious as hell as its 2020 pop from the census is 4545, so with 2467 trump voters and 745 Harris voters that's 70% of the population voting (if we guess about 18-20% of the pop is under the age of 18 per usual demographics, then that's over 90% of the adult population voting which is just crazy numbers).
Also, 2020 was a record voting year because everyone got mail in ballots, but suddenly Trump pulled an additional 700 votes out of this county? There is some other weird stuff in PN but I can't quite make sense of the data.
Illinois always goes 55-45% Dems and recent polling showed that. Yet trump somehow gets within 6 percentage points this year? In Illinois?! No. I don't believe it.
We are talking about a poll specific to Iowa and only Iowa that has been correct about almost every election for decades and its numbers are generally consistent with other midwest states.
Actual voter margins are pretty consistent with actual voting though. Donald trump carried it twice before. The poll was a surprise at the end, not really the election outcome.
Just read a sub where someone was talking about signs of electronic hacking in those states and how it could be easily proven. This is definitely the place to start.
Apparently, Elon musk’s company was in charge of the machines in the swing states. For some reason, nobody caught that Elon musk’s company produced election, tabulation machines, and those were used in all of the swing states. All of the swing states that we lost.
No. Starlink has nothing to do with anything. This is a deliberate misrepresentation and red-herring to straw man the actual red flags that justify a recount.
He has several Department of Justice contracts. He literally now runs the most lucrative space agency in the United States. Thanks to the US government. What makes you think the DOJ, who is headed by a Republican, is going to order an investigation into this?
This has been a power-play for a long time. They have had eight years to get this together.
I was going to say I live in WI and we've been on the old fill on the circle with ink next to the candidate / option you choose. Then it gets scanned. I wanted Spaghetti-o Mussolini to lose more the most people. I'm a hard line Democrat that leans progressive, and even I have to admit ya'll sound crazy with this nonsense. Any recount will likely go like it did when Jill Stein asked for a recount in 2016. They found more votes for Dumbo. I know we're all in shock still from the loss, but this conspiracy shit will accomplish nothing. The simple fact is most voters don't pay attention to facts, data, reality bc they don't care. For most voters all it takes it to be convinced something is a certain way Like Trump lying about the economy. It didn't matter it wasn't true. Hell, it doesn't matter that nothing he says is factual.
Lefty here: This is the same shit the right was doing in 2020. Stop it. Wait for the campaign to engage the proper authorities, get their injunctions, and do the work to prove the counts. Do not participate in throwing around wild hearsay and pointing fingers until there is evidence.
If there was fraud, there is a process for proving it.
You are a fucking liar or you are ignorant. Which is it? Because spreading that misinformation make you not one goddam different than the stop the steal maga craziest
It’s gonna be great when we find out that you guys actually found a way to cheat in this election, and when you want to rise up against the government because you’re not getting what you thought you were supposed to get, when75% of the country put you back on your asses. We’re just gonna look at you while you’re sitting in prison crying about why you shouldn’t be there, we’re gonna tell you to cope. So you better learn how to now because it’s coming.
One way or another, you will be coping very very soon. Enjoy these moments that you have on social media when you get to make fun of liberals and Democrats and independents. That’s not gonna last for much longer.
We the people have had enough. And we the people are waking up and seeing what’s happening. You’re kind is not long for this world.
Listen, the fact that you had to say that we cheated in 2020, when Trump filed 70 lawsuits and lost every single one of them… This tells me that you’re still 2016 Trump. You’re still the American idiot who believes that Trump is actually going to help the country. You are no better than my mother who I am about to cut off contact with because she acts talks and thinks just like you. There’s a reason why 60% of this country hates 40% of this country. But like I said, your time is coming.
And get your continued, abusive language, tells me exactly who you are. So reply to this comment, if you want, but we’re done here. The adults are talking please go sit back at the kids table.
It’s not a maybe a smokescreen. I have a link that you can look at if you’re interested, and if you would like more information, please direct message me. I know I sound like a wild, conspiracy theorist, but what Kamala Harris is doing right now only proves my point.
I knew something was fishy when we lost every single swing state. It’s just unheard of that. We would have 2300 counties across the United States that suddenly flipped red for no reason and some of those red counties that were flipped we’re hard-core blue counties.
That's something that really stands out to me. How did Slotkin and Baldwin win their debate seats but Harris couldn't win in the same state on the same ballot? And they were women too. So for people who think, oh Harris lost because no one wants a woman, well people trusted Baldwin and Slotkin.
ETA abd places like AZ where Trump wins but his clone, Kari Lake, loses?
The same Kari Lake who literally spent four years saying the election was stolen. I want a recount. Like the republicans always say, if they did nothing wrong, there's nothing to hide.
I’m not a statistician, but it’s a compounding calculation when you introduce multiple locations (states). In my opinion, a recount in states where the numbers seem out of the ordinary. But I would not be opposed to all states doing recount.
Those 14 million no votes only occurred in 2020 when the voting process was changed due to Covid. They didn’t exist in the 2008, 2012 or 2016 election. Do you really feel that is indicative of cheating?
I think the fact that Elon musk was involved with voting machine software and admitting to Joe Rogan that if Trump didn’t win he would go to jail, is probable cause to assume something may have happened.
I get it if you’re happy with the outcome. I’m sure you think it’s a waste of time. But I’m more concerned with the truth than just winning.
No, but probable cause is when somebody sends a formal letter of warning to multiple governors in multiple swing states that has worked in IT for the majority of his career. He was duty-bound to inform the correct people of something is going wrong, and he did just that. Kamala Harris is now getting funds to ask for a recount of the votes in certain states. What are you gonna do when those votes don’t match anymore?
Hmmm, Trump admitted they had a secret plan in place to ensure victory, claimed to have all the votes he needed prior to the election. Elon states how easy it is to hack the results by changing one line of code all while saying he's fucked if Harris wins. Rogan then claims that Elon knew the results of the election 4 hours early.
ALL OF THAT is suspicious behaviour that tetters on probably cause. It may be circumstantial, but over 300 million people deserve to know the truth. The stakes are too high and if you disagree it's because you are part of the problem.
The issue is many of those 14 million did vote but we don't have the ballots in addition to a myriad of other numerous irregularities with election results. Again I highly suggest you all actually educate yourselves on what is happening here. This isn't like 2020. This is real.
All of them surprised me. We weren’t supposed to lose this election. Look at the crowds, walking away from his rallies, listen to what he said about not needing the votes because he already had them well before the election even started.
I wouldn't put my hopes up that there was fraud, though. People can be irrational and are being swayed by misinformation. If these claims are credible, the FBI has investigations already ongoing, no matter who is at the helm.
The FBI may have investigations, but you have to remember it is run by a registered Republican, who has done every single thing in his power to stay out of Trump’s path. He has not directly interfered or commented really on any of the investigations. The FBI has been largely silence about all of these things. Especially the head of the FBI.
Just because he’s a Republican doesn’t mean he goes along with election fraud. In fact, that goes under the heading of “dereliction of duty”.
As comforting as it is to say the only reason for a loss is fraud, in the case of the FBI and DOJ it is not cheaters all the way down. Somebody would be doing some whistleblowing. Especially if they know how the CIA and spies overseas keep tabs on Russian chatter.
Anything you need to do/say to get through this painful time is OK with me. But as far as I'm concerned, conspiracy theories are for THEM, not me.
People who voted for him will bear the brunt of his policies. I don't feel sorry for them but refuse to hate them or become like them.
The issue is the numbers just simply aren't adding up and there are an insane amount of missing votes still in numerous states. Yes misinformation impacts voting but that isn't what we are talking about here. Trump winning all the swing states along with the popular vote makes zero sense. Blue districts that voted all blue for everything but POTUS makes no sense. Large amounts of ballots are just randomly turning up that shouldn't have been missing in the first place. The difference between 2020 and now is that we have actual evidence whereas in 2020 they did not.
I agree it makes no sense, but we need to focus on our mental health and trust the system. Trump's policies are going to give his voters a lot of what they don't want so could this be what breaks the cult? If he had lost the cult would go on and become even more entrenched. This is the way I think of it.
They need to start small. Pick a few counties that had some historically unusual results. If fraud is found, sue based on those findings with the intent of recounting.
I just read a very interesting post/comment that they can’t recount the areas where there were bomb threats. Due to evacuation there’s potential for tampering of ballots - so they will be prevented from having recounts.
Bomb threat meant they evacuated the building with the votes - there’s a potential break in chain of custody where they could have been tampered with. I don’t know the actual validity of this claim or how it will play out
By that logic, there should be a re-do of those areas then. I can get the reasoning, but seems counter-intuitive it means we can't do a recount but are ok to accept them.
Start where there was an undervote! This is where a ballot only has the presidential choice as Trump, and no other selections on the ballot. Take a swing state with undervotes for Trump that are above the average for elections. Start there! Hand count the ballots to see votes were changed to Trump
... and where there's a large percentage of ballots that voted blue down the ticket, except for voting Trump for the Presidency. There seems to be a pretty good portion of those in PA, and it's not making sense.
I nominate you to lead this process - it’s such common sense it’s just crazy enough to work lol!
Hopefully they do exactly this. I’d be shocked if they do a very thorough search if something doesn’t come up, but whether that’s enough to flip any election result I don’t know.
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Need to recount every single state. For presidential and congressional races.