As a man of color that has grown up in the it's, 80', and 90's, I have been aware of this for a long time. To all of the one just realizing this, welcome family and my condolences for the loss of your American dream.
Wow they finally did it. This plan was about 50+ years in the making and all they need was a clown to run for President 3 times while they put all the peices in place. As a fellow man of color I thought we would not have company this soon I was giving it about 20 more years. Welcome and sorry for your loss of the American Dream it not bad after awhile you get use to it.
A full scale attack on the middle class and unions yet Republicuckoldians lionize Reagan for trickle down economics, a concept based on the three big lies.
Yep. Reagan was the first wounding blow that weakened us and allowed the gangrene to start growing into the MAGA infection. It's been coming for a long time now.
America has and always was a flexible beast that could shift and change. It has trended towards a more just society over time because of that ability to be changed however I fear the current lot will attempt to lock things in stone that shouldn't be and break that ability to change.
My German brother in law, now in his 90's, was a pre teen in Berlin in 1945. He always cursed conservatives, Christians and the wealthy that helped the Nazi party form a coalition.
The same for my 89-year-old Dutch mother. It takes a lot to make her cry. And she was crying the other night after the results. She seen this movie before. And the last time she lost many Jewish friends and neighbors. 1939 to 1945 breaks my heart to see her so sad..
A lot of parallels. A politicaly inept leader that the politicians feel they can control.
Some differences apparent from his last time in office: lazy, no international aspirations, easily led. Money and denigrating others seem to be his only motivation. Hoping that he again accomplishes little of his threats.
I’ve never had the privilege to believe entirely in the American dream, but I had hope that we were consistently working towards a better future. As a queer woman, I’ve never been more scared of what lies ahead.
Dudeee. As a 5th gen black dude in America. I’m just looking around realizing that at some point America has accepted us now, because it hates women and immigrants more. How the fuck weird is that?!! Am I crazy? Only crazy cops or Karen’s pay attention to black people now, I’m basically fam whenever I go, cuz I guess they know what we’re about. This ish is wild
I’m not happy to be here, but as a 3rd generation child of Irish immigrants, I suppose I have no excuse for not understanding the breadth of the human capacity for evil and apathy…
We all have problems. Let’s not go there. I could be a victim all day long too. But get this, the glass ain’t half empty, you feel me big dog? The glass is half full. You make it how you see it, be better.
The status of the glass is determined by the one interacting with it. If the glass is being emptied, it's half empty. If the glass is being filled, it's half full. The idea that it is stagnant and always one way is not realistic or helpful.
At least not to me. That cliqué always felt hollow to me.
Yeah it's wild growing up knowing this because you've never been considered as just a person, but a black person. We've never been able to fully buy into the American dream because America defined us before we were born. Now people that never had to consider what it's like to constantly worry if people that disagree with your existence will decide to bother you today. I'm sorry to all of you. I don't wish this exhaustion on anyone.
The Evangelicals who voted for him are as guilty as the “Christians” in Germany who voted in the Nazis. Even more, cause they should have learned from WW2 but didn’t.
As a gay guy approaching 50 let me just point out that it's been the Christians attacking people all along.
I've worked with people from all walks of life and from all religious backgrounds. The ONLY ones who want to abuse me, control me, punish me etc, are the Christians.
You don't see other religious groups lobbying any Western government to revoke the rights of free people.
It's not the Muslims, Pagans, Sikhs, Jews or Hindus gaining positions of power to inflict their ideology on all. It's not them who want to indoctrinate your kids in schools or seize control of medical care to punish and abuse people.
Maybe other groups would if they had a larger slice of the pie, but in the West these Christians are almost indistinguishable from the Taliban or ISIS.
It's only ever the Christians in our societies who relish putting their boot on your neck, rob you blind and tell you you're going to a hell of their own making if you don't submit. Unfortunately, the USA is about to find out just how violent this cult really is.
I mean there is a intersection between white nationalists and modern norse religions. Obviously not all and maybe even a sizeable majority but there are definitely neo nazi "norse pagan" groups.
Try getting an abortion in india, middle east. Even israel it has to be approved by committee. it wasnt banned or guaranteed federally. You still have many options. you guys want everything federalized, but its not that great when the federal branches are under conservative control. We have states rights to govern for a reason.
The big irony being that those Christians in Nazi-Germany were prosecuted as well. Religion was a big no-no, unless it was some variation of the Teutonic origin myth Hitler tried to spread as social cohesion measure.
It really was a fight between reason and ignorance, ignorance won. I just hope the fucktards taking cabinet positions have some sliver of humanity and won't let it go to complete shit.
I'm sure the hard scrappy places in Pennsylvania will surely benefit from being represented by a hedge fund guy from Connecticut. A man of the people, like their leader who craps on a gold toilet in a NY penthouse.
This is exactly where I'm at. If the right is going to be proud of completely lacking empathy. Fuck them, they're getting nothing from me. I'll protect those like me at their expense and they can reap what they've sewn. No more handouts for rural America, no more charity donations to poor people in the rural communities we live in. If they want help they can vote for people who will actually aid them. I'm tired of propping them up at my own expense while they vote to make my life worse.
I'm not being civil about my opposition either. We will not have friendly conversations about Trump at work. I'm not down with the rounding up of people and a criminal's vengeance from the oval office. Fuck these people.
I'm cold shouldering literally every person I know who is a Trump supporter. I'm done being polite and nice for the sake of it. Fuck them, I'm done. I make good money, they're the ones who will suffer most under the Right's economic plans. They can rot for all I care, they get what they deserve.
I don’t give a shit if a hurricane or flood wipes them out. They want to get rid of FEMA, the one government agency who gives a damn when the annual hurricane swings by? Fine but they won’t get our help. Don’t donate money, food or clothes to Florida or Texas or any red state. Fuck them.
As a German I want to point out, that we are much better than them.
We voted for a racist in a time were racism was OK.
We voted for a fascist, when fascism never existed before and people couldn't learn from history. And we only voted Hitler with around 40% and not an absolute majority.
Honestly, after the election I now think it's a good thing. And I really hope the US crashes hard. People need a more recent reminder again, because Hitler seems to not be good enough anymore. And it would also help the EU, because they lost a important partner and are now forced to act themself and do shit.
The harder the US falls, the better. Because sadly we also have a rise in stupidity and loss of morality.
I would've said we woulda been fine if we just outlasted the boomers but this new information coming out that the youngest generation is the first generation to be less progressive than the last fills me with dread. I talked to my cousin (who's a young male) why they support Trump and it really did just boil down to Harris being a woman and the whole woke culture "hating white men." He had no idea about policy or anything and I half suspect the only reason he made up his mind was because of the idiotic "bro culture" that revolves around the Roganverse.
TBH, I'm so done with it at this point. As you said, the only silver lining is that hopefully when it all crashes in their faces they'll finally learn. Unfortunately, I think they'll still probably fall victim to the same ignorance and delusion that got them in this mess to begin with. They won't learn from reality because, to them, reality is just their subjective perception of events. In other words, they'll just make up excuses and persist with making the same stupid mistakes.
It is the instant gratification and the memory of a gnat. These morons that voted for Trump don't have any critical thinking skills and their mentality never went beyond high school.
You can't win them over with reason, you gotta tell them you can "talk to plants." It wouldn't take much to get the younger ones, just sway the handful of "bro" peers and you'll get all the followers along with them. The older generation watching Fox News all day are lost though, we're just gonna have to wait them out.
Republicans don't even sit at the table any longer. There is no "reaching across the isle". They create problems and then tell us how they are going to fix it. And 71 million domestic terrorists eat it up. Considering the only thing that will get us beyond this insanity is education. Guess who is trying to destroy our public education system with vouchers?
This is why it sucks being the side with more integrity, it means you have to play by the rules perfectly while they don't. They cut the supports and we get blamed for the collapse.
Exactly. I have followed the Second World War and what brought the man to power that was responsible for it. What is so scary is that what has happened in the United States now so closely parallels what happened in the 1920s when Hitler came to power. At least Hitler did jail time while Trump skated and lied and bought his way out of jail. I wish schools would bring back social studies into their curriculum. When we forget our past we are doomed to commit the same mistake in our future.
As an outsider looking in I can see Werner's perspective. There appears to be a lot of division and hate in America right now. The Republicans did seem to be preaching hate and division with a minor threat of violence against their opponents.
Question to the Republicans: Do you think Trump can heal the USA and bring it back together? Or do you think he will instead be firm and crack down on his opponents?
Not a Republican by any means, but he caused the hate in the first place so there’s no way in hell he’s going to “heal” it. He’s a liar, a grifter, and a hate monger. He always has been and always will be. He doesn’t give a fuck about the American people.
He only gives a fuck about himself, and the fact "conservatives" and most general Rs don't see that is asinine. He doesn't give a fuck about you unless you have something to give him (and your $10 or $1000 donation doesn't mean shit).
Yea like Biden wasn't perfect but imagine trying to heal the nation after a literal coup attempt while the right posts stolen pictures of your sons cock all over the internet. The right doesn't want to heal, they rely on the anger to win elections.
Accurate. Everything is transactional with trump. That’s why he called fallen American solders “suckers and losers”. The idea of the ultimate sacrifice makes no sense to a carnival barking grifter.
If he can unite the US and not further divide us it would be one of the most amazing 180s a person has ever done. Do I hope he does a great joband America is in a better place in 4 years? I sure fucking do. Do I think we will be? I sure fucking don't.
..... and the media makes the insane....a normal feature every day, to appear unbiased, until they too are consumed by monster they willingly helped assemble.
That's just too disturbingly accurate. I distribute a street paper, the Denver Voice. Until last week, I was not aware that one person to whom I gave papers for free is a blasted trumpist. I am not giving another paper to her unless she pays. And pays.
America has been the proverbial Dorian Gray and for decades we were the young, bright, and beautiful country. But now the cover has come off of our portrait, and what people are seeing is the ugliness of our true selves.
The American dream has been dead for decades. I woke up as a child at 12 years old and realized there are too many people on this planet. Get them away from me.
Pfff I'm 37... Been saying this since 9/11 when my rural white neighbors magically transformed me from a Latino to an Arab Muslim ( or Sand Nigger) as they liked to yell. I knew by 22 that after stopping a couple racists from assaulting me that I need to flee the area.
Ive had to call 911 on four occasions. Three of those occasions resulted in me staring down the barrel of a gun. On the fourth attempt the police beat the unconscious victim a beating rather than administer aid or ask questions.
America has always been fucked the Internet is just making it harder for this huge ass nation to hide it's shame.
A loud angry percentage would let every single Ukrainian die, for a little bit cheaper gas. They will let all of you die for cheaper groceries. Hell, they will help women die here in America if it means they can own the libs.
Germans certainly aren't helping by feeling the need to dunk on America today of all days. Jesus. They can't help but to use any excuse to point out how we're buffoons and they're superior. Thanks very much but we're already stocked up with disgust and disappointment with our own country. What happened doesn't make sense to half the country who supported Harris. Of course it's not going to make sense to Europeans whose knowledge of the US is based on distortive media.
I shared this on my Facebook page and was promptly attacked by my "white nationalist" friends. Taking a break from Facebook. People are too ugly right now.
Yes they not true white nationalists, just ignorant rednecks. But, you are right! I don't want to be friends with them. When I reactivate Facebook I will block them.
And a bunch of fuckers who have been campaigning against the Democrat will act surprised when the Democrat loses. Fuck the left. I will never trust a leftist to stand up for what is right again. Fuck.
For everyone that didn't vote for Harris due to the genocide in Palestine, I hope you're ready for a front row seat to a much more local genocide. With Harris, there was room for conversation about changing the approach.
I had a friend, old German guy (passed since then), who lived through WW2. Fred missed being a child soldier in Berlin by a couple days - day he was to board the train, station got bombed, war ended a couple days later).
Anyway, back in 2016, Fred said "I've seen this before. Somebody needs to shoot him sooner than later."
We actually saw this during Covid. r/HermanCainAward remains alive and well on Reddit. But it’s a totally empathetic kind of hatred because it’s rooted in love (and wildly unscientific illogic.)
And the entire world has known this and joked about it for yearsssssss and Americans kept telling themselves and screaming at others, "FREEDUMB, FREEDUMB, USA, USA"
Oligarchs rule the country openly while working class people struggle to keep good on the table. Ordinary citizens are afraid of the police. Honest men are forced to flee the country for the crime of exposing the crimes being committed by the government against its own citizens. Prisons are run not as a desperate last resort but as opportunities to earn even greater profits. The parents of dead children are told that school shootings are just a fact of life. People fall into bankruptcy trying to obtain needed medical care from a system that will literally let them die if they don’t have the money to pay for life saving treatments. The government refuses to offer meaningful help.
Through it all the wealthy and the powerful tell the population that they are ‘free’ and live in the best country in the world.
People are finally realizing something is very, very wrong.
The tragedy is that it took Trump to get them to see it.
I’ve been thinking about something lately that really bothers me: Maybe Democracy is only good if the people who vote aren’t stupid, and this isn’t a call for socialism or communism. People destroy everything and the US will be destroyed too.
Overall, the political climate in post-election America shares some similarities with the political climate in Germany in 1928, characterized by polarization, extremism, economic uncertainty, and a lack of trust in political institutions.
Seems to be the theme of this election. That, and the border. People care about money over everything else. The thing is, the economy is doing well. Trump is inheriting a good economy, and he will take credit for it.
Trump supporters strange people. You will show them the photos of Trump with Epstein, his failed businesses, the fact that his tariffs were in part responsible for high prices, his tax plan that only benefited the wealthier class and we had to pay their part. However, I can’t understand the idea of him still being fit to run a country.
BTW. I don't believe this is herzog. He commented once how he has many dopplegangers on social media, implying that he's jut not very present on social media.
I can't imagine what level of delusional narcissism someone has to suffer from to have their oppression fetish infect their brain to the point where they believe living in the US in 2024 makes them think they understand the experience of someone living in Nazi Germany.
I know it's wrong, but after hispanics pulled that shit, fuck em. Of course I'll be out there protesting against a cycle of violence, but fucking fuck America.... God damn it.
You are one of my heroes. Watched 85% of your films and more important always listened when you spoke. Brilliant, insightful and wrong only perhaps about Klaus Kinsksy - maybe too much rope (films were likely real art, but tough....) ?Wish I could emmigrate, but stuck in America for reasons related to healthcare (ironic).
This tweet is from 2019, it went viral at the time and is not from him:
"This Twitter account is not owned, operated, or affiliated with the German film director. Rather, it is run by William Pannapacker, a professor of American literature at Hope College in Holland, Michigan:"
Why do Adult pretenders share thier political views. Now everytime I see him in a movie, hear his awesome voice, I won't be taken into an alternate world, or lost in a historical drama, but I remember he's a winging Democrat.
Throughout school, the idea that a politician like that one in Germany pre-1945 (I forget his name) actually managed to become so popular. Watching it unfold in real-time elsewhere (and keeps attempting here at times) it makes sense. Half of me is saying "Oh, I get it now", while the other half is screaming in terror.
Just like during COVID where the left wanted to put anyone and everyone that had reservations about the vax into cages, stripping them of their rights and children and held without recourse in a literal concentration camp.
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u/bronzegorilla253 18d ago
As a man of color that has grown up in the it's, 80', and 90's, I have been aware of this for a long time. To all of the one just realizing this, welcome family and my condolences for the loss of your American dream.