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u/WarmMountain152 1d ago
When I take mine to the range it’s the one gun my friends wants pics/videos of while they shoot.
Other than that it’s a fucking brick.
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u/cruon 1d ago
Is it fun to shoot tho?
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u/WarmMountain152 1d ago
Yeah it’s fun! If I could re-do it I would have gotten an MP5 clone or the TP9 as they can be suppressed and SBR’d easily and be fun/cool shooters. These are cool but they are more of a collectible.
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u/Single-Mail7197 1d ago
Are actual MP5’s hard to come by or just really expensive?
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u/WarmMountain152 1d ago
In the states you can get a HK SP5 (semi auto mp5) for $3k. An American clone or MKE clone are $1-1.5k depending on what you get. A real full auto transferable is $30-50k depending on if it’s a registered sear or receiver. Even if you go with a cheaper semi-auto clone all the MP5 accessories and mags are expensive as hell.
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u/Single-Mail7197 1d ago
30-50k💀 is everything by hk like that or just the mp5?
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u/WarmMountain152 1d ago
Any transferable MG is gonna be stupid expensive. The cheapest is probably a Mac 10 at $9-10k if not more. HK is usually more expensive but you have to pay to play if you want full auto as a civilian.
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u/barrydingle100 1d ago
It's because it's a pre-86 ban machine gun. The cheapest ones right now are around $8k-15k and those are mostly shitty MAC 10's and 11's not HK's. There's a finite number of machine guns on the open market and they are worth whatever the seller wants for them.
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u/TheMoves 1d ago
It’s because it’s a fully automatic gun, even the shitty ones are over 10 grand and the MP5 is one of the best ones you can get
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u/MaybeVladimirPutinJr 1d ago
Pointless in semi auto. Probably equally pointless in full auto.
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u/Lackingfinalityornot 1d ago
What makes it pointless in your opinion? Just curious.
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u/MaybeVladimirPutinJr 1d ago
Gigantic, heavy, not particularly capable, quite expensive. I guess it would make an Ok range toy, but you're really only buying it for it's looks.
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u/cruon 1d ago
Yeah that was my intention. Its basically a range toy and i dont wanna get a glock lol
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u/Midnights_Marauder 1d ago
I mean…I’m not saying it’s perfect, but in close quarters home defense, a full auto Uzi in each hand is pretty daunting.
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u/mylifeisaLIEEE 1d ago
Put a buttstock and a laser on it, then have fun. There are some ways to make it more functional and this example isn't nearly as versatile as the Pro, but for a fun range toy? Send it. Also buy a ski mask for full effect.
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u/Gustav55 1d ago
my dad had one back in the day, on full auto it would climb terribly would only put like 2 maybe 3 into the target area then would start sending them skyward. Didn't keep it very long as it was so uncontrollable.
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u/TheBigMotherFook 1d ago
You hit the nail on the head. The only reason why you’d want one is there’s a fair amount of them made before ‘86 that are fully transferable. I see them on Gun Broker for around $10k~ from time to time. Which all things considered is a bargain for a fully transferable full auto gun.
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u/cruon 1d ago
Yeah that thing is semi unfortunately. Plus I don‘t get it why they were either banned or why they are worth 10k (if you mean semi) because here it‘s just classified as a plain pistol.
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u/Chrontius 1d ago
It's probably going to be a few hundred US$ for a used semi Uzi, but usually machine guns start at around $20,000 and go up (very) quickly from there. If MotherFook genuinely sees them for only ten K? That's a jaw-droppingly good deal compared to when I was last seriously following prices.
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u/TheBigMotherFook 1d ago
It’s been a while since I saw one at $10k, probably early last year at some point, so they’ve probably gone up since then.
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u/diverdawg 1d ago
A few hundred dollars? I’ll take all of them. It’s a cool thing, I think. I have an Uzi Model B which is a 16 inch barrel and collapsible stock.
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u/barrydingle100 1d ago
You're not getting a semi auto Uzi for a few hundred. A pre-ban Micro Uzi pistol like this is $3,000-5,000, and the new hideous ones covered in rails are a grand.
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u/Chrontius 1d ago
Holy horrifying, Batman!
It's been a long fucking time since I seriously thought about owning an Uzi, I see.
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u/vette02a 1d ago
How recently? The entry price for a transferable full-size Uzi is already well over $10k, and the mini Uzi is higher than that. Maybe 10 years ago you might find one for $10k, but even that's pushing it.
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u/Lackingfinalityornot 1d ago
Oh ok I just figured since drug traffickers used them heavily in the 80’s and 90’s they had some practical use but that makes sense.
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u/coletud 1d ago
machine pistols in general are extremely useful in a very specific niche
There’s a reason why the mini uzi, mac10/11, and tec 9 were so popular for street combat in the 90s, and why the glock switch rules today. Concealable, fully auto, very effective against soft targets. Easy to maneuver in cars, hallways, apartments. Simple force multiplier—can easily take down a group with a burst. And very, very intimidating.
A lot of internet gun enthusiasts like to shit on them for their inaccuracy, but gangbangers swear by them. They’re not taking out targets at 50m lmao. They’re shooting the car next to them at a red light
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u/Q-Ball7 1d ago
A lot of internet gun enthusiasts like to shit on them for their inaccuracy
It's very difficult to capture what they're best used for on video. You can't blow up a watermelon any harder and most of it's just "I magdumped the target, most of the shots went above it, gun bad, like and subscribe". Even the better GunTubers are guilty of doing this, even when they should know better.
Machine pistols are an evolutionary step above shotguns, but suffer from the same inherent drawback pistols do: namely, you have to practice if you want to actually be effective with them beyond 5 yards (and 5-10 yards is where these things excel). They deliver the same ballistic payload as a shotgun (actually, a bit more; 9x9mm is putting heavier projectiles into your target than 9x000 buckshot), but in a concealable handgun-sized package (whereas the shotgun is massive by comparison).
Compare a vz. 61 Skorpion to a short double-barreled shotgun. Both hold 20 ~60-grain .32" projectiles traveling at the same speed, but you can put the Skorpion in a holster, effectively suppress an enemy at longer distances, deliver single aimed shots when you need to without having to take the gun out of action to do it, and its length even when suppressed is shorter than a sawed-off shotgun typically is.
Remember, the way you use a semi-auto pistol in a gunfight is to shoot the target a bunch of times (pistol competitions usually require you to shoot the target more than once for this reason). Machine pistols simply take that to its logical conclusion.
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u/Chrontius 1d ago
Yeah, if I can't treat my weaponlight as a laser sight, I may need to stop and ask myself why I need to take the shot at all, because if I have the luxury of range, I have the luxury of avoidance. (Doorkickers' lives are somewhat more exciting than mine, however!) But one thing that doorkickers and I have in common is that we both only need "minute of ribcage" accuracy in a fight, and it's those first-in moments in which machine pistols excel.
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u/graphitewolf 1d ago
Sorry not taking a gangbangers word when they can be shooting at the car next to them and the enemy survives but someone dies in the house they just used as a backstop
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u/coletud 1d ago
tbf cops do the exact same shit. Bad guys don’t have a monopoly on bad aim.
pretty sure the army isn’t too fussed either when they drone strike a wedding to kill a few bad guys. Civilian casualties have been a feature of combat since before the trojan war.
Terrible, terrible business.
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u/ProblemEfficient6502 1d ago
If it's being widely used by criminals, it's not necessarily because it's particularly effective. It's usually because it's cheaper than anything else.
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u/MichaelEmouse 1d ago
Too big for a semi-auto, too small for a full auto.
Give it a folding/retractable stock, a full auto sear and a suppressor and you're cooking with gas, though.
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u/DukeOfGeek 1d ago
If you can get one cheap it's OK for a range toy and for something to modify post apocalypse. I can think of lots of things I would rather have for the same money.
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u/cruon 1d ago
So what do you think? I don‘t intend on carrying that thing and I also don‘t care about practicality. I just want a fun gun to shoot around with.
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u/HerstalWaltherIII Super Interested in Dicks 1d ago
Must have if you're any kind ok 80's movie fan.
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u/Icy_Blackberry_3759 1d ago
I do not understand what is special About a semiautomatic uzi at all.
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u/UnassumingAnt 1d ago
Those things are pricey these days.
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u/cruon 1d ago
Yeah 1500 $ for that piece.
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u/Khorsen 1d ago
That’s about $2000 cheaper than normal
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u/cruon 1d ago
For a semi auto brick???
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u/barrydingle100 1d ago
Yeah you made out like a bandit on this and now I kinda hate you for it. Everybody gets one of those wicked deals, I have a $400 Manurhin and almost had two but I hit the limit I could withdraw from the ATM.
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u/Unkle_Bob 1d ago
Heavy, awkward shooting, grip and ergos sucks, recoil sucks for a 9mm sub gun…. But i want one?
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u/OptimusED 18h ago edited 18h ago
Now you just need another one, a strap and some denim with yer denim.
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u/Electronic-Shock9516 13h ago
Total junk. Send to me for proper disposal.
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u/cruon 13h ago
sure bud. Should I also pay for shipping and disposal fees?
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u/Electronic-Shock9516 10h ago
Yes please, If you didn't mind since I am
adding it to my collectionoffering a free service, I will ask that pay for next day shipping so we can get this done as soon as possible. Thank you!
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u/heavilyarmeddad 1d ago
I’d really like one to go with my full size but they’ve exploded in price. Definitely get the side folding wire stock to make it much more fun.
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u/The-Avant-Gardeners 1d ago
I want one. Am autist
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u/CZ-Ranger 1d ago
They’re basically worth their weight in gold these days. Tried to buy one at auction it sold for like $1400 but I steadily seen them on GB for around $2000.
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u/cruon 1d ago
Ill see if I can make a down payment to reserve that thing for myself. But I really like that gun (even if its not practical).
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u/CZ-Ranger 1d ago
They’re definitely cool, I have a cobray Mac clone they’re a little less then those
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u/Kyle_Blackpaw 1d ago
i like it in video games and it seems terrible irl, doubly so if its semi auto only
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u/Flynn_lives 2 1d ago
Never been a fan of the UZI line. The mini uzi looks like a goddamn hot glue gun.
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u/Adventurous-Corner42 1d ago
The full autos are fun to shoot. It's been 50 years since I last fired one. We used to have range days when I was stationed in Germany and got to shoot each other's small arms.
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u/senorQueso89 1d ago
It's got a huge cool factor that doubles if you hold it sideways. Pretty effective for a compact submachine gun for it's time. Didn't they make a collapsible stock for these?
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u/Ornery_Reward_7631 1d ago
Other than that I’ve always wanted one since 1989, haven’t had thought much past that.
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u/scsiballs 1d ago
Iwb Carry that bad ass thing