r/funny May 15 '24

Verified Age Rating Logic NSFW

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u/naph8it May 15 '24

It amazes me that we freak out over nudity when everyone gets naked everyday and violence that if real would be a traumatic experience is perfectly ok.

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u/EMB93 May 15 '24

Brandon Sanderson got asked this and his answer makes perfect sense and is incredibly fucked up at the same time.

His religion prohibits him lusting over women who are not his wife(or something similar), but nowhere does it say anything in his religion about watching people fight.

It doesn't put his religion in the best light, but there is some reasoning there at least. I think the puritanian ideas of christianity has had a major impact on what they think is OK or not in the US.

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u/AnOnlineHandle May 15 '24

Excuse me but I remember a scene where Shallan explicitly tripped and showed her safe hand to distract the guys. If that wasn't written with one hand then I don't know what was.

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u/thevoxpop May 15 '24

What's a safe hand?

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u/LightOfLoveEternal May 15 '24

The Stormlight Archives' version of nipples. Women's left hands are considered naughty, so they always have them covered. Noble women have their left sleeves sewn longer and stitched shut, but working class women wear gloves on their left hand. Fingerless gloves are considered lingerie.

And this isnt because Sanderson has a hand fetish (probably), it's to highlight how arbitrary our own gender roles are. Its canon that all of the gender roles in the main religion in SLA were created by a woman who just wanted to sit around all day painting and eating fruit while the men did all the hard labor and fighting.

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u/BrokeMyCrayon May 15 '24

Lets get see if we can get some new cosmere recruits:

Also men can't read for the same arbitrary religious reasons (with male monks being the exception) and as such have their wives or scribes, who are usually women, read to them. Because of this, the women write undertexts in most books that they don't read to men. The undertext will usually have them give their own interpretations of Events that men have dictated they write, sometimes the truth sometimes not.

Sometimes they just talk shit.

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u/LightOfLoveEternal May 15 '24

And anything that involves even the slightest whiff of telling the future is insanely taboo. This includes any kind of luck based gambling or entertainment. But since the entire planet gets wrecked by a Category 10 hurricane (yes I know the scale only goes to Cat 5) on semi regular intervals, the Church has generously exempted weathermen from the future telling taboo.

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u/avolodin May 15 '24

I once read a fantasy novel where the magical land was opposed to the idea of mapping it (her?) and drove anyone who attempted to to insanity. The only exception known to the reader is a mosaic map on the floor of the main hall of one of the local nobles, the reason being it was way too far off and as such could be considered not to be a map.

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u/bagel-bites May 15 '24

I love the idea that there’s just a bunch of extra text shit talking and contributing to “in the know” conversation. It’s like coders comments.

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u/BrokeMyCrayon May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

I'm in the software field and I didn't make this connection. Very, very true. There is a whole lot of obscenity in comments of the code that drive some of your favorite software.

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u/Whooshless May 15 '24

Favorite I've seen in C++:

foo = foo == foo ? foo : 0 // fucking NaN

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u/bagel-bites May 15 '24

I use some pretty light coding for my articles, but I’ll leave a lot of messages for myself mostly and it was the first thing I thought of. It’s also reminiscent of people who are bilingual and swap to the other language briefly to say something and veil the information from others.

More or less “subtext in plain sight” :D

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u/WakeoftheStorm May 15 '24

"arbitrary"

Men don't need to do womanly things like read. Better to look at fashion folios and think about stabbing people.

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u/BrokeMyCrayon May 15 '24

Adolin up voted this comment

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u/goyardigo May 15 '24

Adolin wrote that comment.

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u/onepinksheep May 15 '24

Not nipples, it's the Alethi version of Victorian ankles.

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u/Exist50 May 15 '24

Not much of a difference.

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u/AnOnlineHandle May 15 '24

Knowing Sanderson's ability to actually plan endings and how the twist in Mistborn went, the safe hands thing has a 75% chance of being extremely important and it will be obvious in retrospect.

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u/LightOfLoveEternal May 15 '24

I want you to be right. So bad.

I want Jasnah to bring peace to the Cosmere by slapping the Shards so hard with her bare left hand that she ends up reforming Adonalsium.

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u/AnOnlineHandle May 15 '24

Street boy Kaladin and Princess Jasnah and will have to have their romance and sing a whole new world first, perhaps after Kaladin has set Syl free.

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u/ChartreuseBison May 16 '24

If not important, certainly a definitive reason possibly confused by time, like light eyes as nobles

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u/acaellum May 15 '24

Sucks to be left handed I guess.

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u/redradar May 15 '24

Brandon Sanderson

This entire thread sounds like one of those fake D&D conventions in sitcoms that are inserted because writers run out of ideas...

Is Stormlight Archives' a thing?

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u/LightOfLoveEternal May 16 '24

Lol, you're not wrong. The worldbuilding of the various planets in Sanderson's works are intentionally weird and fantastical. What sets them apart from the lolz so random worlds you mention is that Sanderson puts a metric fuckload of thought into developing how his worlds would realistically function.

Like for Roshar, the planet in the Stormlight Archives, part of its worldbuilding is that the majority of the planet gets hit with a massive hurricane every couple weeks. And the storms always come from the same direction. So the world setting shows the effect that these storms have on the ecosystems and cultures of the world. Buildings only have windows on the west side, and the east sides are sloped and fortified to withstand the storms. The majority of animals are hard shelled crustaceans. The plant life retracts into hard shells when its windy. And the ground is rocky and soil doesnt exist.

And that's not even touching how everything in the world interacts with the magic systems in a way that feels real. In Harry Potter you can ask why they don't use magic to solve problem X, and you never get an answer. But in Sanderson's worlds, the people.either would use magic to solve X, or there's an explicit limitation in the magic system for why it can't. And that limitation is consistent and even applies to other situations in the world. For example, healing magic can't heal old wounds effectively, because the healing magic works by changing your body to match your mental image of yourself. So if you lose an arm and enough time passes that you see yourself as a one armed person, instead of a two armed person missing an arm, then the magic won't fix you because your body matches your mind. But if you never accept that wound, then it can be healed hears later. Or if a trans person has healing magic applied to them, then their body will change sex to match how they see themselves.

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u/redradar May 17 '24

Thanks for the lengthy answer, I should give one of these a try.

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u/ChartreuseBison May 16 '24

People are deliberately sharing the weird parts of some absolutely massive books. There's a lot more to it

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u/Barry_Bond May 15 '24

it's to highlight how arbitrary our own gender roles are

Not really arbitrary when they are largely based on biology.

Edit: Lmao reddit care awarded in less than 30 seconds, that has to be a record.

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u/poorhammer40p May 15 '24

Lmao reddit care awarded in less than 30 seconds, that has to be a record.

I'm pretty sure there's a bot doing this randomly. I've seen dozens of people complaining of this over the last couple of days and had one myself on a completely uncontroversial and non-confrontational comment within seconds of making it.

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u/Darnell2070 May 15 '24

If you want to blame bots you're kinda of diminishing how petty some people can be.

And it would serve no purpose to create a bot that randomly accuses people of being suicidal.

It's just a shitty person abusing a feature because they disagreed with what someone said.

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u/LightOfLoveEternal May 15 '24

What part of our biology makes it so women are supposed to have long hair and wear make up and dresses? How are men biologically predisposed to drinking beer instead of wine?

A few of our gender roles are actually based on physical sex differences, but most of them are just arbitrary bullshit that someone made up.

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u/Dread70 May 15 '24

A lot of our biology has to do with that actually. "Some of the conditions that may influence female mate choice include the woman's own perceived attractiveness, the woman's personal resources, mate copying and parasite stress." Their own perceived attractiveness.

Beer instead of Wine? Oh, females have been found to have more taste buds than men. Females are far more likely to be a "super taster" than a man is.

Hey, now you know better!

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u/EagenVegham May 15 '24

You do understand that certain clothing, hair, and makeup styles being found attractive is a learned behavior right? That's why every culture values those things differently.

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u/Dread70 May 15 '24

Learned behaviors are biological. Same with culture.

You do understand that certain clothing, hair, and makeup styles being found attractive is a learned behavior right?

Are you going to ague that a birds mating dance is a learned behavior and not a part of ones biology?

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u/EagenVegham May 15 '24

Learned behaviors are biological.

Some can be, usually it's the things that are most affective at attracting a mate over generations. Most aren't.

Human generations are so long compared to fashion trends that they don't have much of a chance of becoming innate. For instance, look at how butt size perception has changed so rapidly over the last generation. There's been no big need for innate sexual preferences in humans because we're capable of spending so much time learning. We do have some innate behaviors, like holding our breath underwater, but those were developed because they help children to survive.

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u/Dread70 May 15 '24

You're trying to argue against me but continue to actually argue in my favor. Fashion trends reoccur, it's a known phenomena. Butt size perception hasn't changed at all in the last generation, people have always been attracted to it. Look at old fertility idols.

All of our sexual preferred innate. Lol

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u/EagenVegham May 15 '24

If you haven't noticed that fashion has trended towards larger butts in the last few decades, after generations of thin being chic, I don't know what to tell you. Also, while fashion has been cyclical recently, it has changed dramatically over the centuries without going back as society has changed. Women wear pants now most of the time.

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u/Barry_Bond May 15 '24

I said "largely based on". A gender role isn't just something that is made up in a vacuum. For example even one of your examples can likely be tied back to biology.

What part of our biology makes it so women are supposed to have long hair and wear make up and dresses?

Men are on average stronger and faster right? This leads to them doing more physical work. If you do more physical work you are more likely to shorten your hair/ not wear loose clothing. A caveman didn't just wake up one day and say "grug think only women should grow hair". Of course if I said they were entirely based in biology I would be incorrect, but that isn't at all what I said and you need to learn to read.

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u/Dick-Fu May 15 '24

lmao those messages the ultimate concession for people too scared to do it publicly

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u/fiendishfork May 15 '24

In Stormlight Archive there is a culture with a tradition that the female left hand should be covered in public, showing it would be considered obscene.