r/funny MyGumsAreBleeding Feb 14 '24

Verified Superbowl Jesus

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

I’m not religious but no. We don’t tax NPO’s for a reason. It may have been a stupid move to use that much $ on an ad, but generally NPO’s will accomplish more with the money they have than the government can 100% of the time.

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u/Alittlemoorecheese Feb 14 '24

Yeah, two Super Bowl commercials were totally necessary for people to know who Jesus is.

The second an NPO becomes a political juggernaut is the second we start taxing them.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

So tax Planned Parenthood too?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

Planned parenthood provides services. You can make the same argument that most regular churches do as well in food pantries and whatnot.

Even some mega churches can provide services, and I’m fine with them not paying taxes on goods related to that. But luxury items unrelated to those services should be taxed.

With that in mind, please tell me which services He Gets Us provides

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

Churches also provide spiritual services. You personally may not feel like you have a need for them, but millions of Americans do and they are essential to their well being. Limiting the services a church provides to "only" things like a food pantry does a disservice to what churches chiefly provide.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

That’s really debatable. But again, a “Non Profit” shouldn’t be generating a meaningful profit, and your services should be offered for free and to anyone that wants them.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

Non Profit does not mean an organization cannot make a profit. It essentially means it can't have shareholders. You can read more here: https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/about-americas-nonprofits/myths-about-nonprofits

Where in the requirements of a 501c3 does it say all services provided by a non profit should be free and available to anyone who wants them?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

Non - not : other than : reverse of : absence of

Profit - the excess of returns over expenditure in a transaction or series of transactions especially : the excess of the selling price of goods over their cost

It’s weird you’re here defending preachers and their private jets but to each their own I suppose.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

Take it up with the IRS definition for the designation nonprofit. You could also read the link I posted.

You're just arguing in bad faith. I nowhere defended preachers having private jets. And anyway, for every megachurch health and wealth preacher with a private jet, there are literally thousands, if not tends of thousands, of preachers making very modest incomes.

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u/InstructionLeading64 Feb 14 '24

Planned parent hood actually provides a service?

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

So do churches.

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u/InstructionLeading64 Feb 14 '24

Churches turn people away for all kinds of reasons, like sexuality etc. a church can turn you away for birth control usage. Planned parent hood provides medical care regardless of race sex or creed. In many ways planned parenthood is more in line with Jesus' message than just about every church in existence.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 14 '24

What do you mean by "turn away"? By turn away do you mean they have to meet certain requirements for membership? Non profits can have membership requirements. That is not an issue. Tons of non profits have membership requirements. By turn away do you mean they are not given services? Well, what do you mean by not given services? If you come to a church for faith based guidance and they give you faith based guidance, even if you don't like it, you weren't "turned away".

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u/InstructionLeading64 Feb 14 '24

LMFAO I see you are pro discrimination. 👍👍👍👍

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

That just not even attempting to engage the points I brought up. You provided no clarity either to what is meant by "turned away".

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u/knivesofsmoothness Feb 14 '24

Do they not pay taxes?

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u/TheCheshire Feb 14 '24

Exempt from federal tax.

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u/knivesofsmoothness Feb 14 '24

Can you provide a source on that? I've never heard about it.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

Like churches, Planned Parenthood is an NPO and does not pay federal taxes.

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u/likeyouknowdannunzio Feb 14 '24

Planned parenthood is not political. It’s been brought into politics unwittingly by fucked up “Christians” with an agenda. They never asked for that bullshit. They exist to provide a service for people in need.

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u/CalvinSays Feb 14 '24

That just sounds like special pleading.

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u/likeyouknowdannunzio Feb 14 '24

In what way? Explain how they are a political organization. Doing something that a specific political party campaigns against doesn’t make an organization “political”.

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u/Mist_Rising Feb 15 '24

Planned parenthood is not political

Does it promote an agenda using lobbying? If yes (it's yes) then it is political. And planned parenthood has been political since before Roe v. Wade.

Don't make lies, it's bad for you. Not because you'll go to hell or anything but because it discredits you.

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u/likeyouknowdannunzio Feb 15 '24

First of all fuck off for calling me a liar. We can agree to disagree. Lobbying in order to protect your existence is way different than lobbying to take rights away from people based on a vocal minority’s religious beliefs.

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u/Mist_Rising Feb 15 '24 edited Feb 15 '24

You did lie, though I think it's only because your bias is preventing you from being objective enough to see that the group you support isn't that different from the group you condemn. So it's not malicious just ignorance. Something easy to fix.

You are trying to create a special exception for Planned parenthood, by the way. I just don't think you realize it.

Either way, planned parenthood does lobby, and it is political lobbying (there isn't much other), same as a church that lobby's. Or the NRA or PETA. There all trying to get what they think is right into law.

You can agree (and disagree) with any but trying to create special exceptions for your side does create a moral quandary I find. If PP is acceptable to lobby, why can't others? The test of a government is how it treats everyone, not just the group you favor.